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[Carthraxis]

Not too happy our premium accounts start ticking over while the game is still in beta.

I would expect something like that to start when the game is fully live.

[Katrar]

Carthraxis, on 06 August 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

Not too happy our premium accounts start ticking over while the game is still in beta.

I would expect something like that to start when the game is fully live.

If there is no functional difference between OBT and Live, who cares. It would be one thing if it started ticking in CBT, but really... what's the difference between OBT and Live, except a few more tweaks? Besides, the XP and C-Bill gain you earn during OBT will be just as useful during Live as it will during beta.

[NocturnalBeast]

So we get to use our founder mechs starting tomorrow, but do we still get to keep any changes that we make to the configuration of our founder mechs after the game is wiped before open beta (aka launch)?

[light487]

Maltduck, on 06 August 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

ok ok ok enuff is enuff when can the littel broak ppl play the game we all know u need to make money but enuff is enuff tell us when we can play as i am sick od hearing bata is ready to play but only if u paid us money so please tell us when us BROAK ppl can play the dang game ok

Yeh.. uhm.. that scheduled time hasn't changed for months, dude.. it's been "by the end of summer" for ages and ages.. and it still is the end of summer..

[Helbourne]

Hahaha, sounds like a political press release. They are not commiting to anything, which is fine. I am not fooled by the Free to Play being a bit different. So they choose not to use normal game phase labels of Alpha > Closed Beta > Open Beta > Early Access > Launch / Live. Hold on to your shorts, here is a mind blowing secret, shhhh... games are always in developement even after launch / live. Heck they way this progress update reads they could be in 'Open Beta' for 5, 10, or 20+ years. Maybe they will never go 'Live'. Whatever, its they game and they can label things however they like. It makes no real difference to me. I am just not fooled by it is all.

[light487]

Helbourne, on 06 August 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Hahaha, sounds like a political press release. They are not commiting to anything, which is fine. I am not fooled by the Free to Play being a bit different. So they choose not to use normal game phase labels of Alpha > Closed Beta > Open Beta > Early Access > Launch / Live. Hold on to your shorts, here is a mind blowing secret, shhhh... games are always in developement even after launch / live. Heck they way this progress update reads they could be in 'Open Beta' for 5, 10, or 20+ years. Maybe they will never go 'Live'. Whatever, its they game and they can label things however they like. It makes no real difference to me. I am just not fooled by it is all.

Indeed.. take a look at Minecraft.. that thing was well past the "Beta" stage by the time it went to the Official Live point. The difference between Live and Beta for Minecraft was that the last patch they did to make it "Live" was the one that got them to the point they had originally dreamed the game would be. So it's highly likely that MWO will do the same.. that until all of the elements are in place for the original design, it will remain Open Beta.. but effectively it's a completed game.. just not how they imagined it. For example, the Community Warfare pillar is still a little ways to go yet.. so until that (and other things) are in the game and working, it will not be "Live" but even up to that point, it may as well be Live.

[Zphyr]

@Maltduck:
Dude, calm down. If you don't have money to buy a beta key then pay with patience (so to speak). Me, like thousands others, are also waiting for that pretty pretty mail informing us of the long awaited "you're in". Don't know about you, but knowing that I have several friends already in beta (they are founders) while I'm out is not a nice feeling... but can we do? Nothing. Whining won't make things better... so just sit down and wait, ok? We will eventually be able to play.

Also thanks for the clarification, devs. Does not concern me but it is good seeing devs that would keep their players informed of their agenda.

[Max Immelmann]

i am not sure i like the idea of my premium account starting during open beta. seems like live release should be the point that premium accounts become active.

[scgt1]

"Once all Founder's Members are in the Open Beta, your premium account bonuses will be treated as "live" and any MC used will be permanently spent."

Seriously? So our hard earned money is live and gone while the game will still be in beta? I thought there would be final resets once it goes live and is removed from beta status? I can't think of anyone crazy enough to spend money to play a beta game. Am I alone here?

Edited by scgt1, 06 August 2012 - 08:04 PM.

[WithSilentWings]

I'm personally fine with the premium account starting with open beta, but giving people a choice makes sense.

The reason I prefer having it at open beta is because if I'm playing now, I may as well be earning the extra XP etc now. That XP is no different from the XP I'd earn at a later date, only difference being I'll have it faster and have unlocks faster than the people who choose to wait.

Also, anyone upset that founders will continue to be sold, think about your original intentions. I don't think PGI is breaking any promises here, and in the end you likely bought that founders pack to support them as a developer.

When you complain that the founders pack will continue to be on sale, consider that (for the most part) anyone willing to spend more money would basically be able to make up for the lack of a founders pack, and so there really isn't any difference. Essentially what you're telling PGI is "I want your game to be less accessible because I spent money and should have a larger advantage per dollar than my opponent." You should thank PGI for keeping the founders pack going and letting your friends (whom you should be talking into buying founders) get on board with a bit more of a head start then they would have if founders ended!

[ORIGINAL SteelWolf]

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Your profile states your just a member not staff. Yet you say we like your part of PGI. Until "WE" announce.
So which is it? Member mis-speaking? OR PGI staffer just blew her cover account?

Edited by ORIGINAL SteelWolf, 06 August 2012 - 08:15 PM.

[indigo11]

ORIGINAL SteelWolf, on 06 August 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:

Xoanon
Member Since 17 Nov 2011
OFFLINE Last Active Today, 06:31 PM

Your profile states your just a member not staff. Yet you say we like your part of PGI. Until "WE" announce.
So which is it? Member mis-speaking? OR PGI staffer just blew her cover account?

Unless the account was updated since your post, it shows Xoanon as a Staff Mod / Community Rep.

[light487]

Ok.. here's a suggestion..

To all those not wanting their premium accounts to start when the game goes live... sorry, I mean.. goes open beta. You can ask for a refund of your Founders Package.. then when the game goes live, you can buy your premium member time then.

Simple.

[Rynox]

Thanks for the update! Looking forward to further news.

[Scouten]

light487, on 06 August 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

Ok.. here's a suggestion..

To all those not wanting their premium accounts to start when the game goes live... sorry, I mean.. goes open beta. You can ask for a refund of your Founders Package.. then when the game goes live, you can buy your premium member time then.

Simple.

yup lol silly scrubs Everyone should know that Open Beta is the REAL RELEASE the only difference is between them is the name and maybe 1-3 patches

[Kittenpuncher]

so, its 109PM 7/8/2012 in AU, how long till it wont be wiped again so i can play? :/ Is it happening midnight PDT, or in the morning?

If this was answered in the thread, meh, sorry...

[Chris von Hoff]

Kittenpuncher, on 06 August 2012 - 09:11 PM, said:

so, its 109PM 7/8/2012 in AU, how long till it wont be wiped again so i can play? :/ Is it happening midnight PDT, or in the morning?

If this was answered in the thread, meh, sorry...

Noone knows, it was not mentioned when the patching will be done, nor how long it will be to patch.

last patch came early morning US time, so expect it around 8-9 am PST

[light487]

Kittenpuncher, on 06 August 2012 - 09:11 PM, said:

so, its 109PM 7/8/2012 in AU, how long till it wont be wiped again so i can play? :/ Is it happening midnight PDT, or in the morning?

If this was answered in the thread, meh, sorry...

Likely at around 3:00am Australian Eastern Standard time.

[Kittenpuncher]

cheers guys.

[Khorban Thel]

So what happens to our pilot xp come open beta? Is it going to be reset? Kinda hard to want to invest much time knowing that it's for naught.