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[Your Worst Nightmare]

simply put, the atlas

[Rejarial Galatan]

MechRaccoon, on 30 May 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

To all who picked the Daishi-er, I mean, Dire Wolf:

Can the Dai-er, Dire Wolf grab the enemy's leg and rip it out of it's socket before using it to beat the enemy to death, Quineg?

Neg, while we cannot grab you from the Dire Wolf, we can, and will obliterate you before you get close enough to physically touch us.

[IronStig]

Daishi.

They make really nasty Laser cannons.. Slap some nice juicy MRM 40's on there and the rest can be laser'd up.

Atlas are for ******* who can't run the daishi... joke <3

[Sakon]

Dire Wolf... though the Atlas is a good mech

[Corvail]

I will get an Atlas, but first opportunity will salvage or buy a Daishi

Only if Clan expansion is added will I play up to a Dire Wolf/Attacker

[GoaHead]

Daishi !!

[the gangster of boats]

If I could re-build the Atlas, yeah. There's some tweaking it really needs.
The average Dire Wolf is one bad ****. I hate taking them on when playing the tabletop version and I've drawn IS forces.
When I get to play full on lvl 3 rules (before the "Company which will not be named" took over) I have a few nasty things
to take care of Clanners. Anybody that uses HMPro to play on a map (old school) can attest to the fun you can have if you
know how to design a true killer machine. My friends hate it when I drop an open challenge

[the gangster of boats]

As an example, this is one we played with about 12 years ago.



BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Barrett NAARP-100BA
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 300 Vlar Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
3 Gauss Rifles
2 ER Medium Lasers
1 ER Small Laser
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model: Barrett NAARP-100BA
Mass: 100 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Endo Steel 14 5.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 3 RA, 3 LT, 2 RT, 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Engine: 300 6 19.00
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 307 pts Standard 0 19.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 31 46
Center Torso (Rear): 16
L/R Side Torso: 21 32/32
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10
L/R Arm: 17 34/34
L/R Leg: 21 42/42
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Gauss Rifle LA 1 24 10 18.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 CT)
1 Gauss Rifle RT 1 7 15.00
1 ER Medium Laser RT 5 1 1.00
1 Gauss Rifle LT 1 7 15.00
1 ER Medium Laser LT 5 1 1.00
1 ER Small Laser HD 2 1 .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 15 72 100.00
Crits & Tons Left: 6 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 10,424,500 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,273
Cost per BV: 4,586.23
Weapon Value: 3,738 / 3,738 (Ratio = 1.64 / 1.64)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 44; MRDmg = 36; LRDmg = 21
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 8/8
Damage PB/M/L: 6/5/3, Overheat: 0
Class: MA; Point Value: 23

[Gherrek]

If I had to pick between the two, I'd go for a DireWolf.

Although it's got the usual clan heat problems its massive array of weapons allows it to choose the range with ease and its a heavily protected beasty. The stock ALS-7D is outgunned by the Direwolf by such a degree that its just not funny.

Although if given other options i'd either go for a Burrock, a clan 75 tonne brawler, the fearsome looking Optimus Pri...I mean Grand Titan or 100 tonnes of hatchet weilding death. The BRZ-A3 Berserker.

[Arnie1808]

Neither

[Rejarial Galatan]

<rolls his eyes> Dire Wolf squishes Chuck Norris any day, any time.

[Sky1]

I always had better luck with the Daishi

[Kenaris]

I would have to Say Hauptmann or Sunder the Ac 20's on both just melt face

[Stormeris]

pfff Xanthos obviously

[Kashalot]

Dire Wolf/Daishi, no doubt. Same/comparable armour, 50.5t free pod space/superior firepower, its a Clan Assault OmniMech which was designed to be the ""Ultimate Assault OmniMech". The DW is also generaly more advanced+its a Clan (from 3010), the Atlas is an older IS mech (from 2755). And there is a reason why it received the nick "Great Death".
All in all, its a bit not fair to compare them, but both are iconic powerfull mechs and i always liked the "havoc ahead" attitude of the Atlas

[Der BruzZzler von Wiesndoof]

MechRaccoon, on 30 May 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

Can the Dai-er, Dire Wolf grab the enemy's leg and rip it out of it's socket before using it to beat the enemy to death, Quineg?

No, but it can easily deal with 2 or more Atlas at long range, alone. This is not a fair compairson. Against the Dire Wolf the Atlas is a stone age like rusty bucket, but is hast still style.

[feetjai]

Visionofthegods, on 02 February 2012 - 10:35 AM, said:

I was always a Dire Wolf/Daishi fan. It was my mech of choice in MW4.

And Birdeater, I believe Daishi meant Great Death or something similar.

Great death can be read as:
1) killing opposition greatly!
2) die greatly because the Daisy goes down with a big bang....

Don't think asian people would like to pilot one in real (ofcourse this is an game).....no asian likes to sit in something that is called great death... as if the pilot will die greatly.... ehhh no thanks....

[Kuanor]

Atlas and Daishi are interesting mechs.
what is with ATLAS II(AS7-D-H2)?an alternative mech?

i like medium or heavy mech from 50 to 80 tons.are not an target painted on a.. .




sorry my english isn`t so good.

[Accuso]

atlas in mwll ... and therefore atlas 4ever!

broken... pure dmg with decent tank can't be beaten...

[Shootanoob]

Clan vs IS is not a fair match up, the Atlas would already face a more than serious opponent when set against a Timber Wolf or Warhawk.

In general, I prefer IS tech (if not matched 1:1 against Clan), but dislike the Atlas - I'd choose it one number smaller and would be completely happy with a Battlemaster.