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What comes first? The multiple sketches or the colored art for the mechs?


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#1 Oswin Aurelius

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 03:25 PM

As the post says, does anyone know the process that the MWO team follows when redesigning their mechs? I'm interested to know which comes first from FlyingDebris.

Does he start with multiple sketches that he pitches to the rest of the team, like this:
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And then move on to a more polished version:
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Or does it work the other way around? I'm curious about whether the polished art is the set design for the mech, or if it's really a rough (not very, lol) draft that he then does multiple sketches of to really nail down some of the finer details.

(P.S. my forum knowledge seems to have degraded to the point where I don't remember how to put spoilers in, if a mod wants to add them in for me, go for it.)

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 03:45 PM

lots o sketches until there is consensus on the direction to take a design
then the more polished colored version
then black and white turn arounds based off of the colored version

Edited by flyingdebris, 26 January 2012 - 03:46 PM.


#3 Oswin Aurelius

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 03:47 PM

Now that I seem to have caught your attention for a moment, would you mind explaining the redesign of the Dragon's arm (the cockpit is obvious, it looks much better)? Was it changed because of possible gameplay issues?

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 03:49 PM

Seeing as you're interested in this stuff you may want to check out FZDSCHOOL's youtube channel. He's a concept art guy and has about 50 episodes where he goes over things like production paintings.

(first episode). Just thought you may enjoy it. Cheers.

Edited by PerksPlus, 26 January 2012 - 03:50 PM.


#5 flyingdebris

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 03:56 PM

View PostOswin Aurelius, on 26 January 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

Now that I seem to have caught your attention for a moment, would you mind explaining the redesign of the Dragon's arm (the cockpit is obvious, it looks much better)? Was it changed because of possible gameplay issues?


fixing the arm was mainly because the right arm was always supposed to have a lower arm actuator there. Its just one of those situations where most of the existing art never shows an elbow and you just assume it's not there.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 04:00 PM

I been doodling in my free time to try and make a new 'trebuchet' to match the new centurion.. so many sketches.. so many failed ideas...

<Hobby wise...>

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#7 Paul Inouye

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 04:26 PM

Actually it all starts with me sending this to Alex and telling him to expand on it a bit...

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#8 Nik Van Rhijn

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 05:28 PM

Well at least neither Fencer nor Foil are taken as Mech names. I see you were having a bad hair day though. Preferred epee or sabre myself.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 05:36 PM

View PostPaul Inouye, on 26 January 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

Actually it all starts with me sending this to Alex and telling him to expand on it a bit...

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and then i take that i come back with stuff like this :lol:

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#10 Nik Van Rhijn

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 05:38 PM

Nice riposte FD ;)

#11 Corsair114

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 05:43 PM

Man's a gorram artistic dynamo. One little sketch and he's halfway to having the Commando redesigned for MW:O.

#12 Paul Inouye

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:56 PM

View Postflyingdebris, on 26 January 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:



and then i take that i come back with stuff like this :wacko:

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And now you know why we had to bring Alex on board! :angry:

p.s. This is so my new desktop background! :lol:

#13 That Guy

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 10:08 PM

i dont know what is more terrifing: if this was preplanned by the devs or if it was spontanious! :lol:

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 12:25 AM

I want this mech to be playable for forum members like how they give in-game dealies to people who pre-order stuff these days. Whaddaya think, maybe a medium mech, high on armor, high on speed (lol), and with a single large laser? A kind of harassment mech. Call it the Pewz or PWZ-1A and here's the catch – it never had a left arm in the first place.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 01:32 AM

View Postflyingdebris, on 26 January 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:



and then i take that i come back with stuff like this :lol:

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Thats official Enforcer concept art right there!

#16 Eli Dacreach

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 01:53 AM

Wait. Did the concept artist do this on the spot?!?!?!?!? :lol:

#17 Saurok

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:01 AM

View PostEli Dacreach, on 27 January 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

Wait. Did the concept artist do this on the spot?!?!?!?!? :lol:


Usually, they do. My guess is that that picture was done in less than 10 minutes.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:18 AM

View PostPaul Inouye, on 26 January 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

Actually it all starts with me sending this to Alex and telling him to expand on it a bit...

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My deepest and sincere appologies for this, but when I saw the above, this just popped into my head;

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Yeah, again, sorry.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:26 AM

View PostThat Guy, on 26 January 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

i dont know what is more terrifing: if this was preplanned by the devs or if it was spontanious! :wacko:


Guarantee it is spontaneous.

View PostEli Dacreach, on 27 January 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

Wait. Did the concept artist do this on the spot?!?!?!?!? :lol:


Yes, guy makes damn detailed pictures, a simple one should take him no time at all FD is damn good at what he does!

#20 Omigir

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:27 AM

View PostSaurok, on 27 January 2012 - 01:32 AM, said:


Thats official Enforcer concept art right there!



Yes! Or mini Centurion.. or wait.. that is a commando...

View PostEli Dacreach, on 27 January 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

Wait. Did the concept artist do this on the spot?!?!?!?!? :lol:


Probably... *checks deviant art*





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