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[Big Gar]

If your comp. is very capable of handling this game, but your internet connection is lacking,(even though it is the fastest available), how can you overcome this obstacle?

[Mechpriest]

By moving out from a third world country?

[Big Gar]

Mechpriest, on 10 August 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

By moving out from a third world country?

I guess that's a euphemism for I don't know. Thanks for the effort though. NOT

[Wun]

You will need to give system specs and broadband specs to get a serious answer. The situation you describe is not possible in any major city in the US, like Portland Oregon where your tag says you are..

[Tzeentch]

Who's your internet provider?

[Big Gar]

Tzeentch, on 10 August 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Who's your internet provider?

Comcast

[Tzeentch]

Well hell it really shouldn't be that bad. http://www.speedtest.net/ give us your up/down and ping.

[SakuranoSenshi]

Agreed, it actually ought to be fairly decent if you're in Portland itself and with Comcast.

[CoolHandLuke106881]

Many internet providers have a throttling policy during peak hours, so Yes, its possible to have lag issues anywhere.

[SakuranoSenshi]

Throttling is not going to affect your latency.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Assuming your devices and cabling is good; the only thing you can do is buy a better ISP service. Luckily for me my Mediacom is giving me 15mbs/d for 25$/month. This means I can download files off the internet at 1mBs and it not even touch my ping in games. My issue is lack of space. I've actually run out of room to put all this stuff. I need to buy a 2TB HDD, they're at 120$ on newegg atm and considering I paid that much for a 1TB external in 2009 - that's damn good.

[Aescwulf]

I have the same problem as OP with the Internet . My Internet is pretty rubbish compared to the average in England and I'm in a small village. But I am able to gam online with no trouble

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Nitsua Asuka, on 11 August 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:

I have the same problem as OP with the Internet . My Internet is pretty rubbish compared to the average in England and I'm in a small village. But I am able to gam online with no trouble

I'm also in a ****** location. It's basically luck that there is ONE ISP offering a decent connection and deal for it. If Mediacom wasn't here I'd be forced to use a crappy satellite dish because there is nothing else out here. Mediacom basically has a monopoly on ISP on the whole southern half of this state and it's usually what people are using everywhere because that's the only option for a decent bandwidth. Luckily at 25$/month they aren't gouging me for it.

[Gabopentin]

I also live in a small village Nitsua. I got over the slow speed prob by getting rid of BT and going to Talktalk. Check out your exchange and see if there is a LLU fitted for Talktalk. Unlike ALL of the other providers who use the BT phone lines to supply your house, limiting the speed down to less than 8meg, Talktalks LLU gives you above that by connecting your line to their own 'mini exchange' inside the BT main exchange. The only limit to speed is the distance from the exchange. My own speed went from 4meg average/6meg max, to 13meg average/max. Not forgetting with BT they also supply TV down the same lines as Broadband, so you get the slow down when all the muppets are watching Eastbenders, Constipation St and Jeremy I'm so good Kyle.

[Omniparlous]

Mechpriest, on 10 August 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

By moving out from a third world country?

Last I checked Australia, for example, is not a third world country. Yet we can have pretty hopeless Internet connections here. Ironically my experience of Internet connections in Thailand (developing country, so admittedly not third world as such) is that they were about on par with Australia when last I lived there, but for a fraction of the cost.

Bluten, on 11 August 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:

I'm also in a ****** location. It's basically luck that there is ONE ISP offering a decent connection and deal for it. If Mediacom wasn't here I'd be forced to use a crappy satellite dish because there is nothing else out here. Mediacom basically has a monopoly on ISP on the whole southern half of this state and it's usually what people are using everywhere because that's the only option for a decent bandwidth. Luckily at 25$/month they aren't gouging me for it.

In much the same situation myself. Telstra here has a government sponsored monopoly on phone lines, and outside of built up cities they flex their monopolistic powers pretty heavily. So I'm paying more than 3 times what you're paying all up, and very likely for a much worse connection. Hope that cheers you up a bit

Regarding your original question, given my connection ranges from reasonable (off peak) to almost unplayably laggy (peak), by my PC is pretty beastly, I'm in the same boat. My thoughts are to stick to Mechs that don't rely too heavily on single, heavy-hitting shots (you might not hit constantly with lasers, for example, but you will be able to get some decent damage in I'm sure), and generally try to use mid-range weapons. It's generally the case in most games, I think it's fair to say, that medium range is the most effective with some lag, as long range requires too much precision and at short range a little lag = the enemy being half a screen away from where they're 'meant to be'.

Plus I'd try Mechs with good torso rotation range and speed, and ideally arm-mounted weapons, so that you won't have so much of a problem with Jenners running around into your blind spots and being unable to turn around to swat them. Of course more torso agility and arm-mounted weapons will come at a cost, so my suggestion might turn out to be as useful as a Laser Mech in a furnace!

More generally speaking, it's very significant whether you've got a high but steady ping, or whether it's sporadic. Mine tends to be sporadic in peak times, and that makes life very hard. With stable pings of up to about 300-400ms, though, you can learn to lead targets pretty reliably at medium ranges I've found, but trying to snipe or brawl up close just doesn't work.

Omniparlous.

[Aescwulf]

Gabopentin, on 11 August 2012 - 02:30 AM, said:

I also live in a small village Nitsua. I got over the slow speed prob by getting rid of BT and going to Talktalk. Check out your exchange and see if there is a LLU fitted for Talktalk. Unlike ALL of the other providers who use the BT phone lines to supply your house, limiting the speed down to less than 8meg, Talktalks LLU gives you above that by connecting your line to their own 'mini exchange' inside the BT main exchange. The only limit to speed is the distance from the exchange. My own speed went from 4meg average/6meg max, to 13meg average/max. Not forgetting with BT they also supply TV down the same lines as Broadband, so you get the slow down when all the muppets are watching Eastbenders, Constipation St and Jeremy I'm so good Kyle.

Yeah I'm with talk talk aswell and we are stuck with 2.5meg and limited downloads ( 40gb a month ) and that is shared between 5 devices. Our exchange is in the next town

Edited by Nitsua Asuka, 11 August 2012 - 02:45 AM.

[sumdumfu]

just as an addendum, ping does inversely correlate to bandwidth. a month ago i was on a 1.5 Mpbs DSL connection, and my ping in world of tanks was ~ 120ms. then i switched to 10Mbps cable and now it's down to about 80ms. this has been my experience since i started online gaming in 1997; higher bandwidth = lower ping.

[Aescwulf]

sumdumfu, on 11 August 2012 - 02:46 AM, said:

just as an addendum, ping does inversely correlate to bandwidth. a month ago i was on a 1.5 Mpbs DSL connection, and my ping in world of tanks was ~ 120ms. then i switched to 10Mbps cable and now it's down to about 80ms. this has been my experience since i started online gaming in 1997; higher bandwidth = lower ping.

Yeah also depends where the servers are aswell. And my ping is at 60ms. And I know that everyone outside of North America is going to get high pings

[KelethDragon]

Mechpriest, on 10 August 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

By moving out from a third world country?

Considering New York City has a lot of Internet infrastructure that is 100+ year old copper cabling. That they don't want to fix because it'd be expensive. (And hard, Cohesive planning when building infrastructure? In the US?)

Did some call center work for various American ISPs. You know what's funny is when you realize the average speed, network conditions and infrastructure... is beaten the hell out of by South America or.. anywhere in Europe.

So, move out of the United States and into a country with a real internet infrastructure? Maybe somewhere in Japan where it's pretty much all fiber optic cabling, and the 'average' speeds are 25mbs down, and it's..free? Don't mind if I do!

The united states isn't a leader in infrastructure, and probably will never be. Not economical to upgrade when you can overcharge your customers for ****** service while keeping the same cabling down that's been there since the early 20th century.

[FoxStar]

Ping correlates more with distance from your local ISP's servers than anything else. Broadband speed has very little to do with it aside from how steady your ping remains. But ultimately you can not overcome the factor of distance with anything other than moving closer to the servers.