45 replies to this topic

[sangnasty]

I need some assistance, if you would mind to do so.

I'd like to put together a new desktop, and seeing as how the last time I did was in 2007, I'm fairly lost as to where to begin with the new technology.

Basically, I want something that's going to run this game as well as it can be run for $500 or less, hopefully not needing a power supply as I got a great corsair one in the past.

But those of you who are tech savvy, and like making builds, have at it!

[Integron]

oh geeze... What do you current have to spare that you can recycle?

[CSHubert]

On a budget :

I5 on a asus 1155 board with 8 GB ram and a gtx 560 ti doesnt hurt...too much.

[Oshimac]

I'm with Cookiestealer, need to know what ya got to reuse such as hard-drives and such...

[CSHubert]

My guess is if he last invested in 2007 he would be able to reuse harddisks, DVD drive and (with luck) PSU... I just upgraded mine and that is what I could keep

[Epon Ra]

I´m not sure about prices in the U.S., as i remind it woul be a lot cheaper for you...

But if you have a PSU (Power supply) that runs at least 500W, you could for a
AMD FX-6100 including Mainboard and 8 gigs of ram (In Germany you get that as a Package for
~280 $), and for a decent GTX560 (~180$) and you´re up to date.

Pay Attention that your PSU has at least one 6-Pin PCI-E-Connector. For a GTX560 you need 2, but
you can get an adapter that transfers two normal Power-Plugs into one 6-Pin PCI-E (In Germany for around 2$
in amazon).


That´s only one suggestion, so lets wait what the other here write down. :-)



A little more information:
I would always choose a FX-6100, because he runs in idle Mode with lot less more Power than the Precessor, i.e. a 1100t.
1100t is slightly faster, but thats (for me) not the Point. And the FX-6100 is cheap. Very Cheap.
An intel-CPU has more Gamingpower but dont fits in your budget. ;-)
And for me, i can say i have with that build (i upgraded 2 weeks ago) more then enough Power for any actual Game.

[Integron]

Well, assuming he can recycle those things. you should be able to grab something like an antec 300 case for $49 CAD and something like an AMD 6770 for $100 CAD http://ncix.com/prod...manufacture=XFX
As for the motherboard and cpu its not hard to get a combination for $250 (AMD especially)
but yeah, i'd say that comes down to preference.

[Epon Ra]

As he states that he last updated 2007, i would presume he has an AMD X2 or Phenom, or an Intel E6600 or such, in Combination with a Geforce 8800GT or a Radeon in that Powerlevel.

In 2007 450W-500W PSU where mostly sold (at least in Germany)...so...*puts that shiny crystal Ball away*
...he could at least use his PSU, DVD, and HDD (even if its maybe an IDE- and not a SATA-Version).

If the HDD is too old, go for a new one with SATA-Connector for around 70$, and don´t buy the GTX560 and go for a Radeon 6770.
(as the cookiethief stated before *g*)

Edited by Epon Ra, 12 August 2012 - 11:07 PM.

[Raven-kell]

on a budget, AMD.
5 year old PSU? with new components? scary.
Things do run hotter now good case would be advised.
HHD aren't sata not worth saving.
ati vs nvidia? ford vs chevy.
Motherboard is the most important thing, cause every thing plugs into it. buy a great mobo crappy chip you can upgrade the chip later

[CSHubert]

DaveKell, on 13 August 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

Motherboard is the most important thing, cause every thing plugs into it. buy a great mobo crappy chip you can upgrade the chip later

Agreed... A good z77 lga 1155 socket board. You can stuff almost any cpu into one of those and upgrade when you get more cash... I myself have just invested in a Sabertooth z77 and Im very impressed with it

[Ghostrider45]

Go to Ebay are Tiger diret online you can get some good deals like a bera bones com that all you need to put it is hard drive an some ram are Do what I did Go to Ebay get a gateway comp and up gade it!!

[th3 fr4gil3]

Epon Ra, on 12 August 2012 - 10:59 PM, said:

If the HDD is too old, go for a new one with SATA-Connector for around 70$, and don´t buy the GTX560 and go for a Radeon 6770.
(as the cookiethief stated before *g*)

actually i'd recommend the HD 6850/70 over 6770, 256bit memory bus > 128bit.
(looking at US prices hd 6870 is $160 new, gtx 560 are $170ish, TI's over $200)

[Toxic9813]

You don't mind going lower-end than that? Nvidia 560 is great and all that, but I've merely got a superclocked GTS 450 that does the job on all modern games. But it's not perfect: the only issue is running higher than HD resolution. It only begins to be a problem for me if I'm running 1080p or more. Otherwise good framerate. Just a little food for thought for you.

I recommend the Phenom 2 x4 960. Pretty solid, I bought it last year for cheap so it should be even cheaper.

Ghostrider45, on 13 August 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

Go to Ebay are Tiger diret online you can get some good deals like a bera bones com that all you need to put it is hard drive an some ram are Do what I did Go to Ebay get a gateway comp and up gade it!!

Newegg is a very good computer shop as well. I find it better than TigerDirect. Check it out if you haven't already. I built my rig from that site.

[Hittmann]

http://www.cyberpowe...CFSMbQgodXi8Avw


This is a fun site that lets you build computers, look at parts, and see what goes together. Its cheap too. 99% of the parts cost the same as the ones on newegg (good prices).

Edited by Hittmann, 13 August 2012 - 05:55 AM.

[Wo0m3rA]

I'd go with the "recycle as much as possible" suggestions as this frees up your cash for other items such as motherboard etc.

The Z77 chipset is the way to go with the current Mobo's, and one of the cheapest yet highly rated (in reviews) is the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 with the 1155 socket. I know this due to the fact that I've just completed my once every five year rebuild and was looking very closely at this one as an option - in the end I opted for a more expensive Gigabyte model to fill a niche in my home Wi-Fi network, but if the homenet wasn't a requirement I probably would have purchased the ASRock mobo.

As for the CPU you can still get some impressively fast i3 and i5 Quad Cores fairly cheap - just make sure they're current generation Ivy Bridge CPUs as the Z77 chipset mobos are designed to make use of their 22 nanometer architecture.

And as for RAM, at least 4GB of generic is a fairly cheap option - but take it as a money-saving suggestion only. If you can stretch the budget Corsair Vengeance series DDR3 are good choice.

Remember these are suggestions only and ultimately what-ever "Build" you do will be sitting on your desk, not mine, so do your research and compare where-ever possible.

GL HF

(the following was added 15/08/2012)

One of my favorite techsup/review sites is Toms Hardware, they've been around for more than 10 yrs and I've always found them to be a worthwhile source. Here's a link to a review of several sub $160 (USD) motherboards with Z77 chipsets...

http://www.tomshardw...hmark,3254.html

Edited by Wo0m3rA, 14 August 2012 - 05:09 PM.

[Doesnt matter]

computer from 2007? i dobut anything is recycleable inside the case so youll probably have to pay more than 500. here goes.

$962. +tax and possibly free shipping.
pick and choose from this list
no IDE, so make sure to have a SATA linked CD-ROM
hopefully your PSU has 6 pin connectors for video cards
this is also assuming you will recycle your mouse keyboard monitor and speakers and have an atx case
if no atx case, one is included in list

http://www.tigerdire...34&sku=M17-7306
http://www.tigerdire...6&sku=M452-0102
http://www.tigerdire...=L12-1374%20OEM
http://www.tigerdire...59&sku=T24-9900
http://www.tigerdire...3&sku=A702-0017
http://www.tigerdire...3&sku=G458-0562
http://www.tigerdire...48&sku=K24-2460
http://www.tigerdire...2&sku=M452-6253
http://www.tigerdire...91&sku=A79-8150

[sangnasty]

Wow, thank you everyone for your responses and help..

Here's what I can narrow down for you!

I have a Corsair PSU 600w with one PCI-E pin, so that's recyclable, as well as the optical drives. The HDD is also SATA and recyclable, but is very small (150 GB), and .. has vista installed. I know that's not a hard fix, but I'd like to upgrade my HDD as my work takes up a lot of space.

The GFX Card is a 9600 GTX, would that be worth saving?

Also, someone posted a $962 build... thank you for your tenacity, but the budget is non-negotiable.

[TimberJon]

Just get a new Processor+Mobo+Ram bundle to start.

Intel Build: Rough total: $ 417
Mobo: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131824
CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819116504
Ram: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820104315


AMD build: Rough total: $ 302
Mobo: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131754
CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103727
Ram: Same as above.


Here is a comparison of your 9600 GT (not GTX) vs the 550Ti. http://www.hwcompare...rce-gtx-550-ti/

I use Anand benches for GPU comparisons but your 9600 isn't in the lineup anymore. You can use the 550ti from the bench drop-downs. http://www.anandtech...bench/GPU12/372

So your graphics card isn't horrible but it could use a boost in the future. A 550Ti is a fairly cheap upgrade if you can bust it at $ 135
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130625

Edited by TimberJon, 13 August 2012 - 07:56 AM.

[Worm Seraphin]

Sounds like you should go for a newer radeon card over the 560ti. Thats what Im doing anyways, I currently have a 9600gso, not far from yours. A radeon 7850 is a few bucks more, but should run this game faster as radeons benchmark better in cryengine3 games. The 7850 runs cooler and only uses one pcie power plug.
In december I upgraded to an Intel i5 2500k, Z68 mobo, 8gig ram. That should run this game just fine, not sure about the advantages of newer Z77/3xxxk setups, might not be worth the price difference.

Edited by Worm Seraphin, 13 August 2012 - 08:18 AM.

[Reddeyed Devil]

I"VE BEEN OUTTA COMPUTER BUILDING FOR A BIT BUT A 10"000 RPM HARDDRIVE I DO RESPECT EVEN WITH LESS THAN GAME SPEC EQUIPTMENT