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#1 Xer Sin

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 04:03 PM

Hello everyone,

As the heading state's. My main and really only Question right now is

"Is my most favorite MECH, the Beloved MAD CAT going to be in this game and if so when???"

This is a big deal maker / breaker for me.. If this MECH is not going to be in this game I'm going to find it very hard to invest time or money into this game.. I have nothing but HIGH HOPE's for this Title and the Dev's but I need my MECH ( MAD CAT / MAD CAT MK II ).... In every MW game That is my MECH of choice..

Thank you for your time,

Xer Sin

P.S.

To all you haters out there who think i need to just PILOT any damn mech because i should not be so pickie, Well I have one thing to say to you..

I've been playing MW since the Days of DOS.. I still have a CD copy of MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries. Many Mech pilots have there choice and this is mine, so please keep the NEGATIVE comments out of this thread..

Thank you....

#2 Greyrook

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 04:08 PM

Uggggghhhhhhhhhh,

Yes, the devs have said it will be in eventually. I don't understand why people are so particularly attached to that one. Yes it's iconic, yes it's pretty good, but I feel like it's a bit of a Li'l Sebastian right now and that's coming from someone who played MW2 A LOT.

Edited by Greyrook, 02 September 2012 - 04:08 PM.


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Posted 02 September 2012 - 04:18 PM

As Greyrook said it will be eventually, but not at launch.
The reason it is not in at launch is because the current timeline places us in 3049, 1 year before the clan invasions.
And since the Mad Cat is a clan mech it will not be available before some time after the clan invasions.
As to when that will be we dont know anything about, I dont think the devs have even though about that yet, so please do not ask when it will be available as we simply do not know.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 05:10 PM

well, this is enlightening, so this is going to be one sided for now.... that's one more reason im not going to invest in the founders pack then.. Timber wolf "A.K.A MAD CAT " was Introduced in 2945.. link here
And the Clan was always apart of Battletech, if i remember correctly..


AND AS FOR GREYHOOK

"Posted Today, 01:08 AM
Uggggghhhhhhhhhh,

Yes, the devs have said it will be in eventually. I don't understand why people are so particularly attached to that one. Yes it's iconic, yes it's pretty good, but I feel like it's a bit of a Li'l Sebastian right now and that's coming from someone who played MW2 A LOT. "

really, I dont understand why you have to put a comment like that in here..

guess im not putting money down for the founder's pack.. to bad, I was really looking forward to playing this game..... OWELL...

Edited by Xer Sin, 02 September 2012 - 05:12 PM.


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Posted 02 September 2012 - 06:51 PM

View PostXer Sin, on 02 September 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

well, this is enlightening, so this is going to be one sided for now.... that's one more reason im not going to invest in the founders pack then.. Timber wolf "A.K.A MAD CAT " was Introduced in 2945.. link here
And the Clan was always apart of Battletech, if i remember correctly..


You are forgetting that at the current point in time the tech from that era is lost due to the different factions bombing each other almost back to the stone age during the 3rd and 4th succession wars

Succession_Wars_(History)

As such this technology is considered to be Lostech, and not available until the clans invade.
The clans left before this time and as such has retained the technology and improved upon it.

As for the Clans they were not known about before 3050, when they invade the Inner Sphere.

Clan Invasion

Edited by Dragonlord, 02 September 2012 - 07:01 PM.


#6 Xeen

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 09:11 PM

View PostXer Sin, on 02 September 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

well, this is enlightening, so this is going to be one sided for now.... that's one more reason im not going to invest in the founders pack then.. Timber wolf "A.K.A MAD CAT " was Introduced in 2945.. link here
And the Clan was always apart of Battletech, if i remember correctly..


AND AS FOR GREYHOOK

"Posted Today, 01:08 AM
Uggggghhhhhhhhhh,

Yes, the devs have said it will be in eventually. I don't understand why people are so particularly attached to that one. Yes it's iconic, yes it's pretty good, but I feel like it's a bit of a Li'l Sebastian right now and that's coming from someone who played MW2 A LOT. "

really, I dont understand why you have to put a comment like that in here..

guess im not putting money down for the founder's pack.. to bad, I was really looking forward to playing this game..... OWELL...


Good

#7 Phelan Ward-Kell

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:19 PM

View PostXer Sin, on 02 September 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

well, this is enlightening, so this is going to be one sided for now.... that's one more reason im not going to invest in the founders pack then.. Timber wolf "A.K.A MAD CAT " was Introduced in 2945.. link here
And the Clan was always apart of Battletech, if i remember correctly..


There's a flaw in your canon quote.

Yes the 'mech was introduced in 2945: In the Clans.
It was theorised that it came from a melding of the Catapult and Marauder designs, and it is and always has been a CLAN OMNIMECH.
It did not appear in the Inner Sphere until my namesake fought one on The Rock during the initial days of the Clan invasion.



And a small correction Dragonlord: Lostech is considered the advanced technology from the days of the first Star League, that has subsequently been lost in the multiple succession wars.
Clan tech is not lostech. It is certainly derived from the Star League-era technology, but is superior even to that.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:45 PM

Here we go...

Clan 'Mechs will not be available in the Inner Sphere for sometime, right after the Clan Invasion. I understand that Clan 'Mechs are famous and lovable by among of many fans, but sometimes they must give themselves a chance to adapt to a new environment that they were not used to it, the IS 'Mechs, that is.

As for Lostech, they are techs left behind by Star league were previously destoryed and lost in a succession wars. But the Great Houses in the IS were trying their best to salvage them piece by piece.

Sorry for my bad English. ;)

Edited by Draken X, 02 September 2012 - 10:48 PM.


#9 Ian Mahoney

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 02:15 AM

Everything Ive read or seen on this game says that Clan Tech will come later. It seems to be a bit presumptuous of you to "demand" a certain kind of mech or you will "take your toys and go home".

I also still have all my MW CD's as well as Mechcommander and every book ever written. Im going to give the devs the benefit of the doubt and see what they deliver rather than trying to set conditions. Its like being a bar with standing room only and telling the bartender that if he doesnt give you the extra olive hes going to lose your business.

In the end you are the only loser.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 03:07 AM

as you were all discussiong on Lostech: sure, this means technology from the Star League era. but it wasn't the clans that brought back the tech (which as advanced from SL-tech, anyway, just compare the clan ER M Laser to the lasers the IS has). the great houses tried their very best to get hands on the Lostech, but ComStar did its best do hinder them (destroying science facilities, killing scientists and so forth). Though, with the recovery of the Helm Core by the Gray Death Legion in 3028 the tech came back piece after piece. and in 3049 the major houses had access to tuff like Gauss-rifles, ER Lasers, pulse lasers and so on. that is the reason, thos stuff is in the game right now.

ontopic: yeah, the Timber Wolf is iconic, and overpowered to a similiar IS-mech (be it Marauder or other ones). but the OP-factors works for all clan-mechs. nobody forces you to spend your money on MWO, though I find it rather lame to be fixed on the ONE mech. but that is just my personal point of view.

Edited by SCAR ed, 03 September 2012 - 05:42 AM.


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 03:21 AM

View PostIan Mahoney, on 03 September 2012 - 02:15 AM, said:

Everything Ive read or seen on this game says that Clan Tech will come later. It seems to be a bit presumptuous of you to "demand" a certain kind of mech or you will "take your toys and go home".

I also still have all my MW CD's as well as Mechcommander and every book ever written. Im going to give the devs the benefit of the doubt and see what they deliver rather than trying to set conditions. Its like being a bar with standing room only and telling the bartender that if he doesnt give you the extra olive hes going to lose your business.

In the end you are the only loser.


Tell that to the Clanner.

Funny that the person who demand for his favorite mech so that he could take his toy and go home, doesn't want to try out anything that he's not used to it, and refuses to give himself a try to pilot any other mechs than just Mad Cat or any other IS mechs. Such person is like a frog living under the well.

Well, yes. I used to love the Mad Cat and some other Clan mechs, but I don't ever think that IS mechs are crappy either. As much as I liked the Clan mechs, but I gotta say that IS mechs are much more flexible than Clan mechs in terms of customization. In fact, I actually like the IS mechs like Atlas, Awesome, Catapult etc.

PS: On top of that, we should just appreciate what the game has and enjoy it instead of being a demanding brat who couldn't stand of something that doesn't feel right to them. It's not something to be... "forced".

@SCAR

And ER PPC too.

Edited by Draken X, 03 September 2012 - 03:34 AM.


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 04:01 AM

View PostXer Sin, on 02 September 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

Hello everyone,

As the heading state's. My main and really only Question right now is

"Is my most favorite MECH, the Beloved MAD CAT going to be in this game and if so when???"

This is a big deal maker / breaker for me.. If this MECH is not going to be in this game I'm going to find it very hard to invest time or money into this game.. I have nothing but HIGH HOPE's for this Title and the Dev's but I need my MECH ( MAD CAT / MAD CAT MK II ).... In every MW game That is my MECH of choice..

Thank you for your time,

Xer Sin

P.S.

To all you haters out there who think i need to just PILOT any damn mech because i should not be so pickie, Well I have one thing to say to you..

I've been playing MW since the Days of DOS.. I still have a CD copy of MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries. Many Mech pilots have there choice and this is mine, so please keep the NEGATIVE comments out of this thread..

Thank you....


You get trolled because there are several stickies explaining what mechs are, can/cannot, will and should be in game, that you obviously could not be bothered to read.

There is also a search function in the forum, as in pretty much every internet forum ever since. It is considered good manners in every forum to use that function extensively BEFORE opening any new topic. Especially for newcomers. It goes a long way in showing that you are trying to be a member and not just a troll/leech.

Also me thinks that If you are the longtime super fan that you claim to be:
1) You would not call the Timber Wolf "Mad Cat". In both MW2 and MW2 mercs it was called with his proper name, Timber Wolf.
2) You would be happy for a what has all the ingredients to be a very good reboot of a beloved franchise of yours that has been dead for a decade at least, "MAD CAT" or not.

All in all, see you later, alligator.

Edited by Dymitry, 03 September 2012 - 04:02 AM.


#13 Listless Nomad

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 09:15 AM

If I can just say one thing. Yes it is frustrating to see these threads pop up again and again, especially when the OP has the attitude he does. However, it is currently impossible to search for "mad cat" due to the stupid search parameters implemented on this forum. Some resourceful posters might search for "madcat" or "timberwolf" but most won't.

Just try to keep that in mind is all. It looks like the OP said his peace and has departed regardless. Let us do the same.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 10:44 AM

One things for sure: When the Timber Wolf is introduced you will hate to pilot it.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 03:59 PM

View PostPhelanPatrickKell, on 02 September 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

And a small correction Dragonlord: Lostech is considered the advanced technology from the days of the first Star League, that has subsequently been lost in the multiple succession wars.
Clan tech is not lostech. It is certainly derived from the Star League-era technology, but is superior even to that.


I stand corrected and learned something new. :D

I looked this up on Sarna, but did not know about the MadCat being a clan design.
As it was introduced in 2945, I thought it was part of the lostech,
Didnt know it was a Clan designed mech.

Thanks for the update.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 04:10 PM

View PostDragonlord, on 03 September 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:


I stand corrected and learned something new. :D

I looked this up on Sarna, but did not know about the MadCat being a clan design.
As it was introduced in 2945, I thought it was part of the lostech,
Didnt know it was a Clan designed mech.

Thanks for the update.


No problem. It is an extremely diverse universe, so keeping track of it all can take a hefty chunk of one's memory. :rolleyes:

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:21 PM

Wake me when they make the Turkina :D See yáll in game.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:33 PM

View PostPhelanPatrickKell, on 03 September 2012 - 04:10 PM, said:


No problem. It is an extremely diverse universe, so keeping track of it all can take a hefty chunk of one's memory. :D


Well to be perfectly honest I never was much into BT.
I only played MW3 and MW4 prior to this, so my knowledge is limited at best.
So in this case it was not a faulty memory, but actually a lack of knowledge about the subject at hand.

I'm honestly more into Star Trek myself, but I still have a high appreciation for BT.
At least PGI is doing a great job with sticking to the lore and canon with this game.
Not like Cryptic's STO which is basically just an online Star Trek arcade shooter with very little attention to canon and lore.

PGI's work with this game is the reason I bought the founders pack as well, I wanted to support their efforts at making this great game.

Edited by Dragonlord, 03 September 2012 - 05:36 PM.


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:38 PM

YES ITS GOING TO BE IN THE BLOODY GAME .... I WISH PPL WOULD READ THE FORUM POSTS AS THIS IS GETTING TO BE A BORING QUESTION .... AND I WISH PPL WOULD LEARN THE REAL NAMES OF MECHS.

on a more personal note i want the timberwolf, mad dog, dire wolf, summoner, warhawkand my personal favorite Kit Fox

Edited by Geneslicer, 03 September 2012 - 06:22 PM.


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 06:08 PM

View PostDragonlord, on 03 September 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:


Well to be perfectly honest I never was much into BT.
I only played MW3 and MW4 prior to this, so my knowledge is limited at best.
So in this case it was not a faulty memory, but actually a lack of knowledge about the subject at hand.

I'm honestly more into Star Trek myself, but I still have a high appreciation for BT.
At least PGI is doing a great job with sticking to the lore and canon with this game.
Not like Cryptic's STO which is basically just an online Star Trek arcade shooter with very little attention to canon and lore.

PGI's work with this game is the reason I bought the founders pack as well, I wanted to support their efforts at making this great game.

star trek..... -pukes and then spits on the title- too....fictional... even moreso than stompy robots





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