56 replies to this topic

[Vasili]

lb10x, uac10 and yes.
the 10 gives me the flexibility to add secondary weapons that either have longer range, don't rely on ammo, or both, and still do a nice chunk of damage per blast. i have trouble tagging jenners with my ac unless they're total noobs, but my 10 (and xl engines) lets me rock some med pulse, CASE, and a couple extra heat sinks, so i have some more staying power. the 20 is of course AWESOME, but weighs so much it really limits med mechs.

[Jack Gallows]

Right now my best friend is my standard AC/20. When the LB 20-X and the Ultra AC/20 are made available it's going to be a toss up on which I use depending on what the unit is running. Right now the LB 10-X is quite a bit lackluster in beta, but a 20 up close is going to be a crit finding fool.

I generally run an AC/20, 2 SRM6, and 4 Medium Lasers. Ultra or LB-X upgrade would really really make my machine instant death for anyone in close range. (Currently running Atlas, but going to be getting a Cataphract as soon as they release it.)

Edited by Jack Gallows, 08 October 2012 - 08:23 AM.

[FD Wulfette]

I personally love the LBX-AC's of the heavier calibers. I like the slugs for opening up holes then using the cluster munitions to crit seek. Who doesnt like a shotty mech. To me the LBX-10/20's are the best autocannons for TT play due to the fact of crit seeking ability. In MW4 I used only the Clan LBX-10/20's cause of the damage per tonnage rating. I am a davion loyalist but just dont care for the IS AC's to heavy and not enough damage per weapon tonnage. The best weapons in the game pound for pound has to be the PPC.

[FD Wulfette]

Vasili, on 04 October 2012 - 08:11 AM, said:

lb10x, uac10 and yes.
the 10 gives me the flexibility to add secondary weapons that either have longer range, don't rely on ammo, or both, and still do a nice chunk of damage per blast. i have trouble tagging jenners with my ac unless they're total noobs, but my 10 (and xl engines) lets me rock some med pulse, CASE, and a couple extra heat sinks, so i have some more staying power. the 20 is of course AWESOME, but weighs so much it really limits med mechs.

Ok let me just ask you one question. I am in beta and have not had to encounter this yet. BUT I digress.

My question is WHY CASE at all. Case blows the section when ammo is hit. IS XL engines require 3 slots in each torso RT and LT on TT your mech is dead when it takes three engine hits. SO if your CASE blows then your dead anyway it blows out the three engine critical slots with the rest of that respective torso. so whats the point of CASE your still dead either way you look at it. Unless your running CASE II and in 3049 CASE II hasnt been invented yet. I know for campaign play CASE will keep the mech from total destruction but its still crippled with a dead engine.

Edited by FD Wulfette, 08 October 2012 - 08:43 AM.

[Hannah Cohen]

When I have an autocannon I favor LB-10X loaded with standard ammo. Best compromise of range, damage, heat and ammo capacity. It is like having a non-crap version of the AC-10 with better range.

[Takeo]

If I have an AC I like the Ultra AC5, just hate when the thing Jams on me. Best solution for that is to put them in a cycle with other weapons and usually Jamming is not an issue.

[Varrin Coursca]

I love the UAC5, but given all of the LB-10X talk I might have to check that out when I finally buy a medium mech. Is it pretty easy to pick up the LBX?

[BertyBargo]

So long as its caliber is large enough, I'm all for it

[Thelira Bekker]

Ultra AC20 was my vote on this one. I was young and foolish when I started playing MW games and the Kodiak in MW2 holds a special place in my heart) as does most of Ghost Bear related tech. Not expecting to use this weapon as my main as I prefer harrasing tactics though.

[Melcyna]

If only they were not affected by latency as badly as they are now...

for ppl like me who are not in US, and with significant latency, AC is nearly impossible to use against any sort of maneuvering target especially in brawl range.

Leading the shot is one thing, but when the latency DELAYS the FIRING of the AC itself it blows any chance of using them competitively with high latency.

That and ultra autocannon frankly seems pretty useless now... (as bad as AC is for high latency players, i persisted with it since i am fond of them before this), with the rate of jamming as they are now in the game it was literally impossible to fire the UAC-5 for more than a dozen or more rounds without it jamming unless i time myself and fire it at AC-5 ROF.

[Strum Wealh]

So, with a few months of Open Beta behind us and the changes made to MWO since, how have the changes made to ACs specifically and MWO in general affected the playerbase's uses and perceptions of autocannons?

[Skadi]

WHY CANT I SELECT ALL OF THEM! D:

[Assault One]

I've used the AC/20 with my bad ping since the time that lag shield was prevalent. Now that it's been somewhat fixed, it performs a bit better against lights. Against everything else, it still rocks.

[Radical]

LB10-x, Ultra AC/20 and No.
My primary weapons are always energy based unless I'm in a missile boat, I use light autocannons for long range engagement and heavy ones for dealing critical damage at point blank range.

With my level of skill, I find they are useless against light mechs, so I usually have one to juxtapose my energy weapon of chose, light ones to compliment PPCs, heavies to back up laser builds.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Strum Wealh, on 10 February 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

So, with a few months of Open Beta behind us and the changes made to MWO since, how have the changes made to ACs specifically and MWO in general affected the playerbase's uses and perceptions of autocannons?

Hasn't affected mine. Not sure MW:O ever will either. Let's face it, many of us have preferred some of these weapons for years, far longer than MW:O has been available, and in a few others' cases for longer periods of time than MW:O will exist.

[Alpha1Foxtrot]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 11 February 2013 - 05:33 PM, said:

Hasn't affected mine. Not sure MW:O ever will either. Let's face it, many of us have preferred some of these weapons for years, far longer than MW:O has been available, and in a few others' cases for longer periods of time than MW:O will exist.

I totally agree with that.
I love the AC/10 and stuff it where i can. Good punch and reload time, not bad on the heat and i love the reloading sound XD
Really looking forward to the rotary (even though it will be loooooooooooooooong) because i do not like the jamming of the UAC/5 atm - still need a fix, but if it won't jam after the first shot i would go for the UAC/5 ... combine it with an AC/2 and thats some nice rate of fire. Trade in is of course the firepower.

Edited by Alpha1Foxtrot, 13 February 2013 - 02:21 AM.

[Kasiagora]

AC/10 has been my weapon of choice for about as long as I've played Battletech, and it's hardly different in MW:O. It's a great weapon for medium and heavy mechs alike, and I think of it as an alternative to the PPC. A bit heavier and ammo reliant, sure, but saving a lot of weight on heat sinks. I like my mechs cold.
Of my two Cataphracts right now in game one has an AC/20 with 4 tons of ammo and 4 or 5 medium lasers; and the other has an AC/10, an LB-10X, and 4 medium lasers. The second one may sound strange at first, but it tears through mechs like you wouldn't believe. 2 tons of ammo for the standard AC I'll plink away from a distance, and with 1 ton for the LB-X once they're close I'll start alpha-striking like a mad man. The LB-X is also good for slapping light mechs in the face.

My other vote was for the Ultra AC/20. Spending the weight on an AC/20 is something best saved for assault mechs in my opinion, and when that kind of weight can start putting out twice the ridiculousness? Well, so much the better.

[Krelek1000]

ACs are great but Guass Cannons can be just as dangerous. However I loved the implementation of the Ultra AC/10 from the Maximum Tech book. They adjusted it later on but at the time it weighed less than the original (if memory serves me)! Time to have a beer!

[UnseenFury]

Light Hyper-Velocity Ultra-Rotary Autocannon/20 plz

[Philadelphia Collins]

damn i missed the rac5 and picked uac20 before i saw it. oh well it's kind of toss up as to which one i like more anyway

edit: nice poll btw

Edited by Philadelphia Collins, 18 February 2013 - 10:55 AM.