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#1 990Dreams

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 03:21 AM

Go to Fox News. Unless this is like the North Korea dictator, dying myth then we have to retaliate.

#2 CMDR Sunset Shimmer

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 03:34 AM

You get your news from Fox news?

Yeah no, I think I'll pass.

#3 Sparks Murphey

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 03:39 AM

http://www.smh.com.a...0912-25soa.html

So, yeah, some terrorists were involved and the Libyan government condemns said terrorists. Retaliate against who, exactly?

#4 Brenden

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 03:55 AM

They need to give out more details.

#5 Scytale

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 03:57 AM

Fox News is not necessarily erroneous, just heavy conservative bias. My experience is that apart from a few 'shock jocks' like O'Reilly and Hannity, the channel is fairly sensible in its language, if still clearly conservative in nature. I wouldn't discount it straight away unless it comes from one of the dodgier ends of it~

#6 Thom Frankfurt

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:02 AM

And an US embassy in Egypt got overun Tuesday...

#7 charov

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:21 AM

Italian newspapers reports the same news. Chris Stevens and other two or three people have been killed in lybia.

from: http://www.ilsole24o...l?uuid=AbykfEcG

#8 Imagine Dragons

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:21 AM

Just wait.

#9 Der Kopfsammler

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:29 AM

View PostSparks Murphey, on 12 September 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

http://www.smh.com.a...0912-25soa.html

So, yeah, some terrorists were involved and the Libyan government condemns said terrorists. Retaliate against who, exactly?


Dejavu... Iraq anyone?

Wait.. lets step into the future: Syria anyone?

#10 Dymitry

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:24 AM

Yeah, lets go and bomb the **** out of *points general direction* them, killing a few innocent civilians surely will not matter.

#11 Imagine Dragons

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:49 AM

View PostDer Kopfsammler, on 12 September 2012 - 04:29 AM, said:


Dejavu... Iraq anyone?

Wait.. lets step into the future: Syria anyone?


More like syriana...

Badum tss...

#12 Egomane

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:45 AM

View PostDavidHurricane, on 12 September 2012 - 03:21 AM, said:

Go to Fox News. Unless this is like the North Korea dictator, dying myth then we have to retaliate.

So we have ...
a.) an ambassador in a high risk environment ...
b.) who is supposedly killed by some terrorists ...
c.) while the nation he was murdered in condems the action of the terrorists.

So who do you want to retaliate against and why?
a.) The ambassador for being in the not so secure nation of Libya? To late he is dead!
b.) The terrorists who supposedly murdered him? Isn't that what the US is doing for the past eleven years without much success?
c.) Libya, for condemning the action of said terrorists or not providing enough protection (hint: not their job!)? Huh... what?

How about
d.) The US government for deploying him into an area of high risk?

The man knew that he was not in a very safe environment. He got paid for the higher risk deployment. End of the story!
If the terrorists are captured, they need to be punished, that I agree on. But I see no need for any big scale action.


Edit: Sorry, it's Libya not Lybia!

Edited by Egomane, 12 September 2012 - 06:52 AM.


#13 Imagine Dragons

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:49 AM

Its Libya damit.

#14 GuntherK

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:59 AM

View PostDavidHurricane, on 12 September 2012 - 03:21 AM, said:

Unless this is like the North Korea dictator, dying myth then we have to retaliate.


Yeah, lets retaliate, lets bomb Kadaffi... oh wait...
Crap.

#15 Gunny McDuck

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:06 AM

View PostJade Kitsune, on 12 September 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:

You get your news from Fox news?

Yeah no, I think I'll pass.


So MSNBC has no bias?
The major networks don't slant their coverage towards the left?

#16 Lightdragon

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:11 AM

Cool story bro

#17 Thanatos676

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:17 AM

PLEASE PLEASE do not bring politics into this forum...

#18 Aescwulf

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:34 AM

Well according to the NBC news they did it due to a US Produced film about insulting their religion.

Oh well if some big shot goes to other countries with insulting films then it's their own fault.

#19 CeeKay Boques

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:46 AM

View PostThanatos676, on 12 September 2012 - 07:17 AM, said:

PLEASE PLEASE do not bring politics into this forum...


Where is supposed to go then?

Edited by Technoviking, 12 September 2012 - 07:46 AM.


#20 WardenWolf

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:58 AM

We should be praying for peace in these troubled parts of the world and offering condolences to the families who lost loved ones (I suspect that ambassador, and the others killed, all had family state-side). As much as part of me wants to flatten the whole country involved when something like this happens, that is neither practical nor would it actually punish those responsible.

A perfectly viable question, from the US government's perspective, would be 'is it worth maintaining embassies in these violent countries at all?' I'm not sure that we really need to have a presence in every country around the world, and in those which have substantial populations who are hostile to the US I would think that withdrawing isn't a bad idea. It would certainly save us money (albeit small amounts in comparison to the national debt) and shield our citizens from danger, but I'm not sure if there would be equally negative impacts in terms of our ability to gather intelligence or intervene diplomatically in escalating crisis situations.





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