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[Cthulu Jr]

If my experiences are any indication, there are quite a few players who care more about good gameplay than good graphics, while others would prefer higher graphics, but have bad computers. Thus, I think it would be a good idea to add an extra low graphics option that allows you to play with old-style graphics; I'm thinking something along the lines of Mechwarrior 2.

[Stickjock]

um... really??

[Adridos]

That would be quite extreme... ultra low with no graphic effects activated would suffice.

[Greyrook]

Sorry Jr. but I don't think even the Ancient Ones would think that's a great idea. However, I will just assume that your mind has been warped by things that cannot be comprehended.

[Cthulu Jr]

Huh. Well, that was quick. It usually takes me a bit longer before I live up to my screenname

Edited by Cthulu Jr, 13 September 2012 - 09:32 AM.

[Riin Suul]

personally, I am glad that this game has such high requirements, and if anything wish that they were higher.
I run a high-end computer, and too few games take full advantage of top of the line hardware.

I am so sick of my games being gimped by hardware (consoles, although this obviously doesn't apply here) that I REALLY wish that games had higher requirements.

[Stickjock]

Honestly?? You'd take THIS...



over THIS??

[Cthulu Jr]

If my computer is bad enough, yes.

[Stickjock]

Cthulu Jr, on 13 September 2012 - 09:58 AM, said:

If my computer is bad enough, yes.

Okie dokie... then go get a copy of Mechwarrior 2 (if you don't have one already...) while we play MecWarrior: Online... I have to agree with Riin... not quite as extreme but still, computer tech advances, games evolve... the Devs HAVE stated a minimum requirements to get the most out of the game...

Sorry, but if your system doesn't meet those requirements (or anyone else's computer for that matter) then it's time to eventually consider an upgrade IF you want to partake in newer, more demanding games that are develop'd...

The Dev's of games use the latest and greatest equipment out at the time typically... they cater to a vast number of people, but they have to draw the line somewhere...

I for one have played MW2... great game as most of the game in the line up have been... but it's time is past and MW:O is the new generation... gameplay AND hardware wise... so again... They'll have more "fine-tuning" obviously when the time comes for it to be release in Open Beta... but to "dumb the game down" that much?? No thanks you...

[Cthulu Jr]

Dude, no need to get snippy. If the devs have already put their foot down, that's fine with me. I was just making a suggestion-that's why this is posted in the suggestions category.

However, if you're willing to help me with my primary problem, my laptop (which I'm hoping to make my main comp for this game) is technically able to play this game with medium-high graphics settings. My problem is that whenever I try to play an online game beyond a certain threshold (problem games include things like Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek Online, etc.), Adobe Flash Player starts off fine for about 5 minutes, then goes berserk, eats up way too many resources, and freezes the game, making me ctrl-alt-delete to get out of it. I'm pretty fething sure AFP isn't supposed to jump from half as many KB's as Firefox itself to twice as many in 5 minutes.

I've already tuned it myself, and brought it to the geek squad for complete tuning, but both of us have only managed to fix it for about 2-3 days before it fails again, and I'd prefer to avoid a full wipe.

Here's my comp specs:
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
System RAM: 3963 MB
CPU Name: Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T6500 @ 2.10GHz
CPU Speeds: 2100
Physical CPUs: 1
Virtual CPUs: 2
Video Card Description: Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family
VRAM: 1853 MB
Primary Display Resolution: 1366x768
Multi-Monitor Desktop Resolution: 1366x768
Microphone: True
Language: English (United States)
Free Hard Drive Space: 158966 MB
Total Hard Drive Space: 293255 MB
Windows Experience Index Rating: 3.4

Edited by Cthulu Jr, 13 September 2012 - 11:09 AM.

[CSG Gunslinger]

Cthulu Jr, on 13 September 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

Here's my comp specs:
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
System RAM: 3963 MB
CPU Name: Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T6500 @ 2.10GHz
CPU Speeds: 2100
Physical CPUs: 1
Virtual CPUs: 2
Video Card Description: Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family
VRAM: 1853 MB
Primary Display Resolution: 1366x768
Multi-Monitor Desktop Resolution: 1366x768
Microphone: True
Language: English (United States)
Free Hard Drive Space: 158966 MB
Total Hard Drive Space: 293255 MB
Windows Experience Index Rating: 3.4

I would be very surprised if that rig can run MWO at all, it doesn't meet the minimum specs (or does the T6500=E6750?). Not being snarky just saying, there's a long way to go on game optimization yet and once all the graphics options are in place lower end hardware owners might be able to play with decent frame rates.

My own machine was high end 5 years ago, Ive been slowly upgrading parts of it to get decent frame rates on MWO (since I don't have the funds to build a new box outright).

Edited by CSG Gunslinger, 13 September 2012 - 12:54 PM.

[Cataclysm315]

Hey guys just thought I'd comment, The guy has come here with an idea and I personally think that's great. However,stickjock I feel that you are being very snotty towards the guy and I think he did nothing wrong to deserve it. So while hes playing MW2 maybe you can go off the forums and cool down?
And on a side-note, that system isn't that bad to be fair, its only the graphics card that is stopping you from playing truthfully. I used to play on a e5200 dual core with 2gig of ram and 9600gt on medium settings running at 1280 x 800 resolution. Ive upgraded since but the poitn still stands, upgrade the card and the game will run much much smoother

[Lightdragon]

if your graphics card is too slow, geeks.com is selling amd 3870's for 60 bucks thats plenty above minimum specs

[RAM]

Cthulu Jr, on 13 September 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

However, if you're willing to help me with my primary problem, my laptop (which I'm hoping to make my main comp for this game) is technically able to play this game with medium-high graphics settings. My problem is that whenever I try to play an online game beyond a certain threshold (problem games include things like Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek Online, etc.), Adobe Flash Player starts off fine for about 5 minutes, then goes berserk, eats up way too many resources, and freezes the game, making me ctrl-alt-delete to get out of it. I'm pretty fething sure AFP isn't supposed to jump from half as many KB's as Firefox itself to twice as many in 5 minutes.

I gather uninstalling/deleting/removing AFP is not an option?

CSG Gunslinger, on 13 September 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

I would be very surprised if that rig can run MWO at all, it doesn't meet the minimum specs (or does the T6500=E6750?). Not being snarky just saying, there's a long way to go on game optimization yet and once all the graphics options are in place lower end hardware owners might be able to play with decent frame rates.

MWO will not run well – but it will run.


RAM
ELH

[Stickjock]

Cataclysm315, on 13 September 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Hey guys just thought I'd comment, The guy has come here with an idea and I personally think that's great. However,stickjock I feel that you are being very snotty towards the guy and I think he did nothing wrong to deserve it. So while hes playing MW2 maybe you can go off the forums and cool down?
And on a side-note, that system isn't that bad to be fair, its only the graphics card that is stopping you from playing truthfully. I used to play on a e5200 dual core with 2gig of ram and 9600gt on medium settings running at 1280 x 800 resolution. Ive upgraded since but the poitn still stands, upgrade the card and the game will run much much smoother

Yet again, someone consider's what I said to be slamming the kid... not in the least... but as I said above... the Devs have to draw the line somewhere... and sad as it is... his system is below specs...

So, no need to "go calm down"... LOL... Think a lot of forum posters here need to take some more reading comprehension classes so they can tell what real flaming and insulting is... which, I don't consider what I posted above it... Was just putting it out there straight for the kid... plain and simple...

5 yrs from now if he's still got that system, are developers expected to cater to his 15 year old system?? of course not...

[Cataclysm315]

Ok so maybe I did over react a little I was just simply saying that all he did was ask a question and it was just the way you said it and the response he gave i felt bad for the kid.
Anyway your point does stand strong. MechWarrior 4 graphics downgrade setting would be drastic never mind MechWarrior 2, that would just be insane I think what he means is turn off all the big graphics consuming effects that make that laptop run at 3fps or whatever it is he gets.
Laptops aren't the easiest thing to upgrade when it comes to graphics either so unless its a good model he may need to either build a desktop or buy a new laptop, which will likely not happen ;P
Poor kid, download MechWarrior 4 and we can play some time its still a great laugh lol.

[JokerPW]

Sometimes, the matter is not "What kind of graphics do you want".. rather "How can I reduce this horrible lag / increase FR"..
Be nice, guys !
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[Airborne Thunder]

I think there should be an option to set graphic settings to custom levels. There are a lot of things that can be turned off to improve gaming performance. Shadows? Ambient occlusion? Who needs em? If it means an extra 20fps, I'll gladly get rid of those for performance.

[HeII March]

I feel your pain Jr. Though I am not running on a system that low spec wise mine still is by no means great. There is no real options in the game to adjust the graphics settings and this is what I would could a design flaw. Let us not forgot not all of us has high end gaming systems. This game is going to need alot more in the way of graphical adjustment if they want to get it to a mass market. Those who have high end systems should be able to use there machines to there fullest cabablity but those who dont should be able to play the game with reasonable frame rate. I myself am running with a number of things turned off and in a resolution most would probably think I am playing doom. (400x320) If I could turn more of for a better frame rate I would. And yes my system does fall into minimum specs and exceeds some of them to some degree. I know my issue right now is my graphics card but its going to be a long while before I can upgrade anything. JR here is a link for you. this will let you adjust many of the graphics settings. You can also go into the user cfg file that located in the main game folder and make adjustments there as well. http://mwomercs.com/...gs-in-easy-way/

[Cthulu Jr]

Thx for the feedback

RAM, on 13 September 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

I gather uninstalling/deleting/removing AFP is not an option?

Already tried all 3 options several times. No consistent improvements.

CSG Gunslinger, on 13 September 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

I would be very surprised if that rig can run MWO at all, it doesn't meet the minimum specs (or does the T6500=E6750?). Not being snarky just saying, there's a long way to go on game optimization yet and once all the graphics options are in place lower end hardware owners might be able to play with decent frame rates.

Unfortunately, I believe T6500 is correct. I wish I could update the graphics card, but as I understand it, aside from RAM, you can't replace individual components on a laptop-something about how the motherboard is arranged. However, if this is incorrect, please speak up now.

Also, I've been saving for a new laptop this coming Christmas, so if anyone cares to give suggestions (under $800 USD, please), that would also be appreciated.

Just one question though-is AFP necessary for this game? Cause if not, I think disabling it during play might be helpful.

Edited by Cthulu Jr, 14 September 2012 - 09:18 PM.