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[Stripes]

I am currently playing MineCraft, got trough original Heretic some months... So, seconded!

[Jacob Carlyle]

To be honest, I played all of MW2 and MW2:GBL in wire-frame, I just preferred it (and at the time my PC could barely handle solitaire).

I hate to bring up "that old chestnut", but no-one could accuse WoW of having cutting edge graphics, and repeated attempts by other games to topple Blizz' leviathan by making prettier, smoother and more realistic games have had all the effect of a fart in a hurricane. Get the base engine running well, have a consistent visual style and ultimately, play well and you will have a winner. Also, being able to count the rivets on the left arm actuator at 300m means exactly nothing if you have TOR level disconnect between the commands and the mech acting them out.

(I know it's petty and unworthy, but it gets to me even more than people using "then" instead of "than". The phrase is "I couldn't care less..."; "I could care less..." means you actually do care...)

[DaZur]

Jacob Carlyle, on 05 March 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

(I know it's petty and unworthy, but it gets to me even more than people using "then" instead of "than". The phrase is "I couldn't care less..."; "I could care less..." means you actually do care...)

I stand corrected... and usually I catch those fo paux.

[Mechteric]

I don't really get this poll, its not so much an opinion on how the game should be as much as it is how much people are willing to spend on their hardware. Games nowadays are incredibly scalable anyway, so either you meet or exceed the minimum requirements or you upgrade.

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 05 March 2012 - 12:04 PM.

[El Loco]

Actually, I'm getting sick of all those fankids praising games with horrid game play and mechanics simply because the graphics are great. I still enjoy playing games from the 90's, sure their graphic is ridiculous, but their game play and in depth mechanics usually make up for it. I'd prefer it if MWO would be one of the 2 or 3 games this year worth a line in the video game remembrance. The problem is, if the graphics aren't classy enough the game might not receive enough attention from the media... that's a sad trough nowadays

[Kaemon]

Online games are 90% graphics, and the other half is gameplay.

[SwordofLight]

I've stopped playing WoT because they've added so much junk that fps and load time are abominable - and therefore unplayable (what? you've added birds? You're dropping my fps for birds?). Fine, whatever, I've gotten back into CounterStrike, just downloaded Fallen Earth, still working up my character in Killing Floor. WoT wants to shoot its own foot, no worries, I've got other games on my hard drive.

I cant play MWO because the graphics make it laggy, stuttery, or mechs dont draw before scenery (ahem, like WoT) - well, damn, that is a shame. Back to CS:GO I guess...

-Don

Edited by Sword_of_Light, 05 March 2012 - 12:24 PM.

[CeeKay Boques]

Sword_of_Light, on 05 March 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

I've stopped playing WoT because they've added so much junk that fps and load time are abominable - and therefore unplayable (what? you've added birds? You're dropping my fps for birds?). Fine, whatever, I've gotten back into CounterStrike, just downloaded Fallen Earth, still working up my character in Killing Floor. WoT wants to shoot its own foot, no worries, I've got other games on my hard drive.

I cant play MWO because the graphics make it laggy, stuttery, or mechs dont draw before scenery (ahem, like WoT) - well, damn, that is a shame. Back to CS:GO I guess...

-Don

I hear ya, and hopefully the specs will be reasonable, but at the same time the game shouldn't be held back because some gamers are still tooling around with a single processor, DX 8 Card. (Not directed at you, but at the "keep it low so I don't gotta buy a new machine"

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Here's a steam specs trend from February.

If you're using a single processor or an old DX8 card, that day you've been dreading has come, you are now "low end" and getting obsolete. Games are still being made that 1%ers can play. But newer games can do amazing things. Imagine a game that looks like skyrim, and it's not particularly dependant on video card power! I'm not sure what your wallet can handle, but I think if the specs are too low, one should meet the rest of the 80% of gamers half way.

[Exilyth]

El Loco, on 05 March 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

Actually, I'm getting sick of all those fankids praising games with horrid game play and mechanics simply because the graphics are great. I still enjoy playing games from the 90's, sure their graphic is ridiculous, but their game play and in depth mechanics usually make up for it. I'd prefer it if MWO would be one of the 2 or 3 games this year worth a line in the video game remembrance. The problem is, if the graphics aren't classy enough the game might not receive enough attention from the media... that's a sad trough nowadays

Unfortunably, thoose 'fankids' mostly never got around to playing the good games of old. If all you ever played was games like my little shooter, tubes between cutscenes, mediocre console port and forbidden stuff simulation, your view on game quality might be equally biased.

We can be happy that we 'old' gamers experienced the golden years of gaming: they teached us to look beyond graphics and see what games are actually about. And, above all, they gave us the skill to pick the needles of good games from the heap of straw made from the canned s... erm... stuff that gets thrown out heartlessly over the year.

Thank [deity of choice] there's still a few good games now and then.

Excuse me, I feel a sudden need to go and reinstall deus ex...

[Major Tom]

I ride the fence like a prepubecent skateboarder.

J/K I have a solid gaming rig with a high-end video card. I am so glad this game isn't going to be a video-nerfed console port.

Edited by Major Tom, 05 March 2012 - 02:57 PM.

[Sp12]

What an interesting if rather pointless topic. There's no reason at all we can't have graphics that scale well across a variety of platforms. One of the tenets of good game design is scalable gameplay. Have a 2000 poly atlas model and a 20000 poly atlas model. Realistic footprints and smoke or not.

Poll also has some weird options. Why would anyone want eyecandy to overtake gameplay. The graphics are there to enhance gameplay, but that doesn't mean they can't be eye-popping.

[trycksh0t]

Sword_of_Light, on 05 March 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

I've stopped playing WoT because they've added so much junk that fps and load time are abominable - and therefore unplayable (what? you've added birds? You're dropping my fps for birds?). Fine, whatever, I've gotten back into CounterStrike, just downloaded Fallen Earth, still working up my character in Killing Floor. WoT wants to shoot its own foot, no worries, I've got other games on my hard drive.

I cant play MWO because the graphics make it laggy, stuttery, or mechs dont draw before scenery (ahem, like WoT) - well, damn, that is a shame. Back to CS:GO I guess...

-Don

I believe the point the OP was going for is right here. Gameplay in the sense of stutters, frame skipping, etc... While I agree that any PC game put out in this day and age should have readily scalable graphical/feature settings, I can understand the OP's thought process. If someone on a lower spec system has to scale back detail levels or draw distance, would that put them at a disadvantage somehow? Possibly, but I doubt it. Just because your Mk.1 eyeball can't distinguish the 'Mech from the stand of rocks and trees it's standing in doesn't mean your targeting gear doesn't know it's there.

[Sarah Dalrymple]

I am less worried about graphics vs gameplay than I am about what kind of internet connection you will need to play this game. Some of us live out in rural areas where speeds at or above 1.5Mbps is not only rare, but extremely expensive. Are we going to be left in the dust because the game runs faster than our internet can keep up?

[Solis Obscuri]

DaZur, on 05 March 2012 - 05:43 AM, said:

Like a hot-blonde on my arm... I soon realized the bodacious ta-tas' and banging badonkadonk amounted to nothing without the ability to assemble a cohesive sentence...

DaZur, on 05 March 2012 - 05:43 AM, said:

What say you?

SS or it didn't happen.

[LimiterOne]

Hey folks, look, it's 2012. I'm all for the graphics being scalable, but seriously, if you're still running an AGP video card and system memory is 256MB of DDR, maaaaaybe it's time to upgrade before you complain about a new release game being beyond your hardware's capabilities. You can hit NewEgg and build a decent little gaming machine for less than $500 including OS. Just do it. You'll thank me later.

In the meantime, let's drink!

Peace (through superior firepower)

LO

[Dlardrageth]

LimiterOne, on 05 March 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Hey folks, look, it's 2012. I'm all for the graphics being scalable, but seriously, if you're still running an AGP video card and system memory is 256MB of DDR, maaaaaybe it's time to upgrade before you complain about a new release game being beyond your hardware's capabilities. You can hit NewEgg and build a decent little gaming machine for less than $500 including OS. Just do it. You'll thank me later.

Yep, I bet that works a charm with international shipping and customs and what not. Let's see, do I order in the US, Canada or China shop? Oh, wait, none of these countries is actually even withing a 1000 miles of mine... And hey, while spending 500$ on a whim might be no big deal for you there or me here, in some countries it is.

:EDITED:

Edited by Metro, 27 March 2012 - 03:58 AM.
tsk tsk

[EDMW CSN]

I took the following

[color=#959595]Balance[/color]
[color=#959595]Draft Horse[/color]
[color=#959595]Yes:[/color]


For 1) Graphics don't make a game. i don't need another mech assault or another 3rd PS hill humping / pop tarting game play. But I can always turn off some eye candy for speed.

For 2) I used a MSI Geforce 560TI Twin Fozr. Not the best card, but it ran BF3 and Crysis (HD + DX11 patch) multiplayer just fine. BF3 it even ran 50+ players without a hiccup on high. So it should turn up fine.

For 3) I used to played Wolfenstein Enemy Territory rather competitively so I am not above from tuning down the graphics to get an advantage. i have went to the extent on completely remove the gun animations off my screen so I can squeeze more fps or prevent over sized guns from blocking my view and HUD.

So nothing wrong with that.

Edited by [EDMW]CSN, 05 March 2012 - 11:21 PM.

[Wraith 1]

I've said this before, I'll say this again. If they made an exact replica of MW2/Mercs (except for the bugs and worthless netcode) I'd be a happy guy.

[Celestial]

Who says we have to have one or the other?
I want Amazing graphics AND gameplay.
Is that too much to ask? (well it is a lot to ask lol...)

[Hayashi]

I want the best graphical experience my graphics card can support. It's a laptop, so there are limitations with that; but it is the 2nd best non-custom laptop of its class in all performance criteria available in my country when I bought it a few months ago, before the Alienware M14x.

If an Nvidia GT550 cannot run MWO at minimum settings then I'd be annoyed. But as long as it can run at a livable framerate, everything else is secondary.