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[Sesambrot]

Adridos, on 15 March 2012 - 07:10 AM, said:

Wait, you can't get the right ending without DLC? Where did all that crash talk about "optional DLC, not stripped from the game", go?

So far this is really only speculation, based on three facts:
- the current ending apparently is crap
- the game tells you to hang on to saves, and look out for future DLCs
- EA has already pulled crap like that in the past, they may have reached a new extreme, but I can't say that I'd be supprised...

The big problem with all this is that they promissed us heaven and earth in advance to releasing ME3, a conclusion where all your choices matter. In fact from what I read, I can very well relate with all the fans who feels screwed over by EA and Bioware!
Again, I'm going to refrain from judgment until I've actually reached the end myself...

Ulric Kell, on 15 March 2012 - 07:22 AM, said:

I enjoyed the game immensely and as the saying goes "it's about the Journey, not the destination", it was rocking. My challenge however to the above statement is knowing that the destination is a dystopia where everyone dies, destroys the journey for me.

I can't bring myself to play any of the games in the short term because I'll always know that no matter what I do, it all ends in a crap shoot. So what's the point? The other side of me wants to go back and play all three games killing as many people as I can, since nothing done in any of the games really matters in the end lol.

I think you nailed what people are actually so upset about...
Through all three games you are given the impression of actually making a difference, of actually achieving something. Well from what I get you are actually making a difference, but is that really any better than what would have happened if you hadn't done anything?
Many many people seem to disagree, which you pretty much summed up.
Why would anyone want to go through that whole struggle, all the quests and get involved into the story as much as most people have, just to find out that all the emotions all the time and all the losses and decisions, where pretty much all for nothing?

Again, I haven't seen it myself, but to me it all sounds like a despicable attempt by EA to milk as much money out of the franchise as somehow possible, which they have done with others already, while not caring in the least that they will destroy it in the process.

Edited by Sesambrot, 15 March 2012 - 07:43 AM.

[Adridos]

So it seems my "prophet talk", which I always done on other gaming site (yeah, I know it is really close to trolling), was true in the end, as much as I wanted to be proven wrong.

[Sesambrot]

Well, the thing is that gameplay and story, at least as far as I have played it, are very engaging and really awesome. I may say maybe even more so than in the first two games. However, that makes the supposedly messed up ending even worse...

[Kartr]

Raegar, on 14 March 2012 - 03:05 AM, said:

So funny to read all this. I bet, if Bioware'd made a classic "happy ending", there'd be even more cries and tonns of hatred. It seems to me that most people just don't want to think and look a bit deeper. That's the problem. Awesome game and the best endings there could be for the whole series, that's my opinion.

A "happy ending" isn't what people are complaining about, we want an ending period. What we got instead was some indoctrination induced hallucination that is completely unaffected by our choices throughout all three games.

What should've happened was if you choose Control or Synthesis Shepard becomes a Reaper puppet like a new Saren. The POV would switch to your love interest and at some point he/she would have to kill Reaper Shep. If you choose Destroy you have to fight your way through every squad member you've lost in the series, representing the ghosts that Shepard has.

Either way after the hallucination is over your POV character continues the fight against the Reapers, the more Effective Military Strength you have the easier the battles are and the fewer people you loose. Eventually it would culminate in a massive space battle above earth with Shepard/Love Interest fighting off Reaper forces trying to take over the Crucible. The POV character would wind up riding the bomb all the way in and dying with all the Reapers when it went off in the middle of their fleet. Que to credits with a montage of your surviving friends rebuilding the galaxy.

Raegar, on 14 March 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

First, there is only ONE ending where Shepard survives. Second, there is no need in 4000 effective military strength, I've got 3500 and it's more than enough. Nearly at 3000 the indicator is maxed so it seems to be nessesary.

Your words about "proper" endings and comments of me3 endings just confirm what I've already said about people dont want to think about the differences in effects that endings have for the universe. They just need a "proper" ending, I see now)

Spoiler

All the effects in the galaxy are essentially the same, all the Mass Relays get destroyed, for some odd reason the Normandy and your squad members who were with you on earth are suddenly flying away from the battle and crash land on a remote, unnamed world. Those aren't the only plot holes that exist in the current "ending" either, there are several others big enough to fly Sovereign through.

The ending is a poorly written bit of work that doesn't bear the hallmarks of the previous games in which your actions had an impact on the ending. Or endings that gave a certain amount of closer, which is even more important in the final game of the trilogy. It comes off as a half *** copout because EA/BioWare got tired of working on the game and just wanted to get it on shelves so they could get their money. Its really sad because up until the craptastic non-ending the game was actually pretty good, barring a handful of buggy missions.

Edited by Kartr, 15 March 2012 - 11:10 AM.

[Reno Blade]

Aegis Kleais™, on 10 March 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

I was SO relieved to hear EA or Ubisoft didn't pick up MWO as a developer,

you mean like EA just dropped MPBT 3025 Beta without any reason and disappointed the whole Battletech community back in 2002 ? im so glad as well. EA gone down for some years now. (like how the hell could they make the C&C tiberium4 crap without basebuilding???)

[Adridos]

Kartr, on 15 March 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

Spoilers

Thx for adding Spoiler warnings.

[Kartr]

Adridos, on 15 March 2012 - 10:47 AM, said:

Thx for adding Spoiler warnings.

Sorry, fixed it so that the ending is hidden by spoiler tags.

[Hell Cat]

I love Mass Effect, and It is definitely my favorite game series. Mechwarrior fallows behind that.

[Coralld]

I read some where that there will be a free DLC that not only fixes up the ending but you also get a ton of multiplayer stuff as well.
Here is the link: http://www.crunchyro...riving-in-april
As it states, take it with a grain of salt. I am skeptical but hopeful at the same time.

[Carebear]

DLC is just temporay if anything. EA is all about making as much profit with little risk as possible. I just love it. If story fans start to ***** at them, they turn that series into soft-**** and let the Sheppard the stud do the job. They're just playing with you and trust me EA have done this long long time already. I havent played ME series but are you guys sure their story/characters isnt copied from book or movies, just a hint. Basically they cant market their game in two ways whatever they decide is the best way.

Edited by Carebear, 20 March 2012 - 02:56 AM.

[Evgeny Bear]

Carebear, on 10 March 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

Bioware is history. Couple month and the grim truth of Star Wars come out. SWTOR still sells but they lose customers rapidly. Over-rated dev in my opinion. Nothing awesome.

Yeah Bioware constantly lose their class from former games, as EA gets more and more involved in the processing they delete stuff, redesing elements which was great before and replace it with casualgamer crap. Its one of the many sad studiostories we all saw in the past... rest in peace Bioware.

[Carebear]

Andar89, on 20 March 2012 - 03:21 AM, said:

Yeah Bioware constantly lose their class from former games, as EA gets more and more involved in the processing they delete stuff, redesing elements which was great before and replace it with casualgamer crap. Its one of the many sad studiostories we all saw in the past... rest in peace Bioware.

I agree, well Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect brings alot new idiots to fool. I can already see some kids think how cool that camel toe is.

EA must be pissed off at SWTOR though, they REALLY thought it worked, like why didnt they offer lifetime sub, wheres the shop etc. THey really wanted that to work. Never EA, you're too *****. I still think number one reason why SWTOR fails is the damn IP what cost them fortune.

Edited by Carebear, 20 March 2012 - 04:06 AM.

[Dataman]

Dataman, on 19 March 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

Still has better ending than ME3

there I said it

Edited by Dataman, 20 March 2012 - 04:12 AM.

[ice blaze]

I imported my me2 charecter if you can not. reply to this pls. i will be coming out with steps to do it.

Edited by ice blaze, 20 March 2012 - 04:15 AM.

[Evgeny Bear]

Carebear, on 20 March 2012 - 04:05 AM, said:

I agree, well Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect brings alot new idiots to fool. I can already see some kids think how cool that camel toe is.

EA must be pissed off at SWTOR though, they REALLY thought it worked, like why didnt they offer lifetime sub, wheres the shop etc. THey really wanted that to work. Never EA, you're too *****. I still think number one reason why SWTOR fails is the damn IP what cost them fortune.

I think it not worked because they send a dev team of "solo rpg" games to work on an mmo, it creates a great mmo-story but the multiplayer content and the max lvl content is quite not very interesting, Star Trek online flopped that way too (not the story... cryptic sucked bad, but the newest episodes show that they can do it, if they want). Its just a solo game you play with a bunch of other geeks.
Other thing the die hard fans don't like... so much ideas are simply copy&paste from the movies, there is so much stuff that is simply copied from old artworks for the movies and it lacks the originality of the former kotor


hmm... off topic

Edited by Andar89, 20 March 2012 - 04:17 AM.

[Catamount]

Carebear, on 20 March 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

DLC is just temporay if anything. EA is all about making as much profit with little risk as possible. I just love it. If story fans start to ***** at them, they turn that series into soft-**** and let the Sheppard the stud do the job. They're just playing with you and trust me EA have done this long long time already. I havent played ME series but are you guys sure their story/characters isnt copied from book or movies, just a hint. Basically they cant market their game in two ways whatever they decide is the best way.

So your sole judgement of the game series come from the fact that its distributed by EA? No doubt that deep thought process gives you incredible insight into any series they're ever involved with, apparently more than actually playing it. So why not share it? Tell us everything there is to know, ever, about Mass Effect; you can start by getting Shepard's name right

Edited by Catamount, 20 March 2012 - 06:42 AM.

[Carebear]

Catamount, on 20 March 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

So your sole judgement of the game series come from the fact that its distributed by EA? No doubt that deep thought process gives you incredible insight into any series they're ever involved with, apparently more than actually playing it. So why not share it? Tell us everything there is to know, ever, about Mass Effect; you can start by getting Shepard's name right

Sad but yes, I think almost every gamer knows what EA does. Btw, Bioware doesnt exist anymore. EA bought them, kicked the staff, left some long timers and spread them among 4 studios. I'd say the ideology still exist what they stood for.

Need for Speed The Run was also one recent from EA, they really poured **** all over their fans. Now they whine and cry and spread their name.

Edited by Carebear, 20 March 2012 - 06:51 AM.

[Catamount]

Carebear, on 20 March 2012 - 06:45 AM, said:

Sad but yes, I think almost every gamer knows what EA does. Btw, Bioware doesnt exist anymore. EA bought them, kicked the staff, left some long timers and spread them among 4 studios.

So? Does this incredibly nuanced thinking of yours enable you to answer more than the first sentence of my post or doesn't it?

and yes, I'm pretty much trolling, but you're being more than a bit silly here, and silly posts require silly responses

Edited by Catamount, 20 March 2012 - 07:01 AM.

[Carebear]

Catamount, on 20 March 2012 - 06:47 AM, said:

So? Does this incredibly nuanced thinking of yours enable you to answer more than the first sentence of my post or doesn't it?

and yes, I'm pretty much trolling, but you're being more than a bit silly here, and silly posts require silly responses

We all are trolls bro.

Edited by Carebear, 20 March 2012 - 07:02 AM.

[Evgeny Bear]

I want a "dislike" option here