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[Apnu]

BoPop, on 30 July 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

Couple things:

If you can purchase the maps with MC then they aren't free. Cuz MC = $ Frankly I wish they'd just cut out "MC" and say, "This Cicada is $15!""Stupid paint job, $5!! Friday only!" To me "MC" is insulting to our intelligence.

And in DDO, a grind for a map pack would take years. Only those who spent their turbine points extremely wisely were able to get a few good map packs. Otherwise get that wallet out. And you can't argue that with me, I played a lot of DDO and still check it out every now and again. It costs money. Big deal.

I'd say DDO or D3 is even more pay to 'win?' than MWO. Not sure how one really 'wins' at either of these games but...for me from the very first moment I laid mouse on MWO I realized, "Oh, I need to shell out a few bucks." And I did. It's a video game, i'm USED to paying for video games. And other entertainment stuffs. Yea, blows the mind doesn't it? Fun stuff costing money? CRAZY!

At any rate I ask a question to you and the latest generation of gamers:

Why must this game be free? Must milk be free? must coffee be free? How about Aspirin? I don't understand why people expect free things particularly when they're not needed to stay alive. Think about people in remote parts of the world. They'd scrape the callouses off your feet just for a slice of bread.

I'd pay for map packs and if some buddies in our clan couldn't afford it, we'd help each other out so we could all play on the same maps. But as it stands, we can't even play with more than 3 others at a time. That is also getting REALLY frustrating. "Oh, Hello # 5, let's.... reshuffle our group and uh... sync drop." *sigh* This is becoming one of the next most annoying things about MWO to me right now.

I want more maps, i'll pay for them. And I want to be able to have 5,6 and 7 buddies in a group (and I WON'T pay for that) That's how the game should work, period.

Bo, I'm not disagreeing with you and here is my answer to your question: I liked DDO a bunch, I was in MAC and all that. Great group, fun game. good times. I like there is a path to unlocking the game for free. Yeah Turbine made it take years and that's OK, there is a path and if I wanted to commit to that path (or some part of it) I could. Its what I like about F2P games. My finances fluctuate due to my job and its nice to be able to grind for more game content when I'm low on funds and its nice to buy something for a game when I'm flush with cash. I paid what I wanted, when I wanted at the value I thought the game was. I had to be smart with my TP and I was, and Turbine made it real attractive to buy TP, they worked hard to sell me their product and I respect them for that.

The game must be "free" because the micro-purchase model they follow dictates it. And companies who pull it off (like Turbine) make a profit at it. Players like it because it gives them the choice I illustrated above. Right now, this model is the winning economic models for these types of games.

I'm not a game designer and I don't fully understand the need to exchange cash for points to unlock things, I'm sure there is a good explanation for it and maybe I'd agree with it and maybe not. I'm sure it has something to do with maximizing profits for the game company. Heck, even Skype pulls that BS too. In order for me to buy a package (say 1000 minutes to call Latin America) I need $80 in Skype credits. But Skype only sells credits in $10, $60, and $125 clumps. So either I have to make three individual purchases or over pay for credits to get this $80 package. That really annoys me.

So its not just the F2P world that pulls that trick. Blue chip companies are doing it too. Its the reality we have until some other idea comes along.

I hear your frustrations I feel them too. I just relax and play MWO. Maybe have a beer, and let the frustrations go. And I have a patience. If we think we are frustrated, imagine how PGI must feel? The high ratio of complaints they see on the forums for an unfinished game has to be very irritating and worrisome for Russ and Bryan..

MWO is clearly unfinished! It turns out all the community members who said that "open beta was launch" were wrong. PGI was truthful when they said this is open beta and the game is unstable, imbalanced, and missing a lot of content.

I love this game, I love the MechWarrior games because above all, Battletech is my favorite game in the world. I'm passionate and obsessed with it, and I'm desperate to have this game be both deep and wide. But I also know how hard of a job it is to build something like that so I give PGI a lot of rope and allow myself to enjoy what I get to play right now.

If you find your frustrations boiling over, here is some advice my fellow gamer: Take a break, play a different game come back in a month or two and see where you're at with MWO. If you don't have premium time ticking down, you've got absolutely nothing to lose. Any MC you have now will still be there, PGI will still be there, your mechs, maps and mates will still be there.

[Will9761]

I'd pay for Combine-Arms consumables. I always liked the idea of sicking vehicles and infantry on my enemies, besides it would be nice to see some type of combined arms. Jump Platoon Infantry, Mechanized Infantry, Tanks, Helicopters, etc. It would be cool just for distractions or to help you out with different purposes. Another cool thing I would like to see if the combine-arms consumables actually wore the colors of your mech to show ownership. For example if your mech is wearing red, yellow, and orange then your tanks would wear those colors as well. I would really like to see this feature just to command other forces.

Edited by Will9761, 01 August 2013 - 09:06 AM.

[Sephlock]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 26 April 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:

Id pay a dollar for a non segregated subforum split up General Discussion area. Like we used to have.

Seconded.

Also, I'd pay for the right to hear the crying from people who get hit by AC/2s or LRMs.

[BillHones]

id pay 15$ or similar mcredits, for 5 mech bays that allow three variants of one chassis type in that bay.

i only like one assault class mech, two heavies, two med, and one light. to master my mechs would be a pain once i have less then three bays left. even making them elite....

if your wondering which mechs: stalker, cat, jagger, cicada, bj, hunch sorta bc i got my first kills in its trial variant, raven, jenner is growing on me. i only like mechs that dont have human features. i like mech gun platforms. not robot ninjas. we cant play a sim mech game that implements kicking, grabbing, independent arm movement, fingers etc, in this day and age. even the in game cockpit controls wouldnt allow that... lol

[jakucha]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 26 April 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:

Id pay a dollar for a non segregated subforum split up General Discussion area. Like we used to have.

I wouldn't. Now most of the terrible posters fester within gameplay balance, let's not put them where everyone goes. That would just be rude.

Edited by jakucha, 31 July 2013 - 06:26 PM.

[Kiritumi]

Bartholomew bartholomew, on 30 July 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

What if mwo had a secret cow level like in Diablo 2 XD

[Rojolobo]

I've already spent $300+ and I'm hoping for a MC reset in the future once the game launches. I have no idea what is in the future, but I don't think I'll be spending anymore money on this. I do believe it seems kind of greedy to charge as much as Piranha does for features when the game hasn't even launched. That whole consumable items thing is so LAME! Really! Who's the jew who wants to charge money for upgraded airstrikes? They need to make camo Packs and Color packs to be used with all mechs.

[Volomon]

Rojolobo, on 02 August 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

They need to make camo Packs and Color packs to be used with all mechs.

Wow they don't?

My suggestion to PGI would be to create random reward packs, almost every game I can think of does something similar.

You place a rare mech into a pack, and X common mechs, along with various other prizes. I'm sure you have something coming up with the clan tech.

People will spend hundreds of dollars trying to just get that rare mech by itself. It's not really selling an advantage it's just a different platform for the weapons that are already available to every other mech. The best way to do this is to take another mech that already exists copy every hardpoint exactly and specs exactly pretty much creating a cosmetic mech. Of course one that is part of the lore is best.

For instance a unique Atlas with a decent skull decent, with red glowing eyes every time he makes a critical hit (prevents it from being a disadvantage in night maps).

Mix it in with all kinds of things I don't know what else they have planned, but 3 days worth of premium time for instance.

You could do multiple packs and people would be all over these I would be all over it and really all your doing is giving them a unique mech that already exists and I'm not just talking a pattern and some color add like a Atlas with some horns some unique designs.

You could do a pack for each faction for instance and have them really show that factions style.

Edited by Volomon, 03 August 2013 - 12:50 PM.

[Joe Marberg]

I'd like a client that works with Radeon cards and doesn't crash every 4-6 games. That would be awesome.

[Lord of All]

Joe Marberg, on 04 August 2013 - 04:25 AM, said:

I'd like a client that works with Radeon cards and doesn't crash every 4-6 games. That would be awesome.

I never crash. 7870XT

[Zomboyd]

something like this as a bobble head and as the mech moves the priest bunny stakes the vamp bunny repeatedly

[Dirty Starfish]

cockpit glass colors

[Silent Hunter]

A module that makes Spiders take full damage...

Edited by Silent Hunter, 05 August 2013 - 10:39 AM.

[Will9761]

I would pay for a Clan Invasion Package.

[Jess Hazen]

if there was a half price mechbay sale i would buy a bunch of mechbays

[Bartholomew bartholomew]

A champion RVN-4X than can mount ECM.

It'd go good with the slice of cheese for my cockpit i want.

[Ens]

Will9761, on 06 August 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

I would pay for a Clan Invasion Package.

same here

and also for just the ZEUS™!

[MoonUnitBeta]

Boyinleaves, on 27 July 2013 - 03:01 AM, said:

- Decals

- PvE

- Good AI in PvE

- Private Matchmaking

- More Game Modes

- More Maps

- Better role-based warfare

- A weapon convergence solution

- Hardpoint critslot limitations (or some other limitation)

- Skill trees that require players to make hard choices and promote individuality (don't allow all options to be active at once for example)

- Better in-game objectives

- Stock Mech game modes

- Regular challenges

- Achievements

good list. i've already gave them almost $400 to have this list fleshed out by launch. We'll see how many check marks they get.

I think we'll get these four for sure,
- Decals
- More Game Modes
- More Maps
- Achievements

Everything else is up in the like confetti.
Especially these two

- A weapon convergence solution
- Hardpoint critslot limitations (or some other limitation)



But, I really can't wait for the body customization. I hope they all can be gain by achievements, but can be bought for a fair price of MC... Wouldn't mind switching out a different kind of Hunch for my 4G. Or some better looking legs for my jenner. A more organic torso for my spider. and maybe my head be a bunch of eyes. haha. would be cool for sure. but I doubt it's going to be that drastic of a change.

[Will9761]

If we ever get the Macross Unseens one day, I would pay for Project Phoenix part 2.

I WANT MY WARHAMMER BACK NOW!!!

[DegeneratePervert]

I would totally pay for a KING CRAB.