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#1 RL Nice

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 03:28 PM

Okay, so I've read the first novel, listened to the audiobooks of Dune Messiah and Children of Dune (big mistake, since I was driving at the time and couldn't pay attention to them), and watched the first third of the David Lynch film.

I'm planning on reading the sequels, don't know about the Brian Herbert/Kevin Anderson books (who am I kidding? I'm probably going to read them anyway) and finishing the David Lynch movie, then maybe checking out the SciFi Channel adaptations.

Anyone else a fan of Frank Herbert?

No spoilers past Children of Dune, please. At least until I read the next book.

#2 The Bad Charlie

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 03:39 PM

Im pretty stuck on asimovs "foundation" 14-book saga, but i looved the dune universe back in the days of dune 2 and the movies :(

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 03:50 PM

DOOOOOOON

Yeah, Dune is a great book. I've read the original three, through Children, and I've been lazy about the fourth - it's sitting in my room all lonely - and it is a genius book series. I've heard that a new Dune movie may be in the works, but it seems like it'd be impossible to get right in a movie. There are so many thoughts in the character's heads that simply can't be portrayed in any reasonable way, and Lord knows the first movie doesn't satisfy.

View PostThe Bad Charlie, on 30 September 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

dune universe
Please. It's Duniverse.

Edited by LogicalTightRope, 30 September 2012 - 03:50 PM.


#4 Loc Nar

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 03:51 PM

Dune is awesome, and well worth reading. The first three books were written back to back and read pretty seamlessly. God Emperor, written 20 years later, gets kinda slow and weird but I recommend it still, and the last two as well. Once Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson picked it up though, it no longer felt like Dune to me so I gave up on them after the first few, but I think they got better after that. Loved the Dune Encyclopedia though, by William McNally and a foreword by Frank Herbert in 84'. Epic scifi...

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 03:51 PM

I'm quite a fan of the Dune series. the Brian Herbert/Kevin Anderson books are okay, but they are merely a shadow of the original books. Dune is one of the few books I can reread over and over.

#6 Egomane

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 03:53 PM

I only ever realy liked the first book of Dune. The others are ok, but the first is fantastic.

And the movie from lynch, with actors like Jürgen Prochnow and Patrick Stewart, did a good job on capturing the atmosphere. Much better then the later TV adaptions.

But what I realy loved was Dune II, the PC game. :(

#7 Joachim Viltry

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:07 PM

The first book is truly amazing, it builds a world, and runs with it. the rest somewhat less amazing. But the stuff his son cranked out is really poorly written tripe, it actually gets to a point where he's tying his caerdboard charectors to events in the seris backstory in such lazy ways that you kind of feel sick reading it. it's just so damn shameless, and doesent serve any purpose - certainly it doesnt enrich the universe in any way.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:09 PM

Dune is by far the best in the grouping although those written by Frank are still very good the first few done by Brian are really out there but pull together ok at the end would still recommend them to any one who liked the other books specially if you can get past God Emperor Dune which to me was a good book now that I am older but reading it at the age of 13 was a bad idea

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:29 PM

books were ok, games were aweful

#10 RL Nice

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:55 PM

View PostLightdragon, on 30 September 2012 - 04:29 PM, said:

books were ok, games were aweful


You don't seem particularly enthusiastic about the best-selling sci-fi novel of all time, or about the game that invented an entire genre.

#11 Lightdragon

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:21 PM

im not

#12 Funkin Disher

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 04:27 AM

Also a fan over here
"He who controls the spice, controls the universe"

The funny thing is that i still think the worms control the spice... funny implication.

#13 RL Nice

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:12 AM

Funny thing about Dune II. Though I respect it for starting off the RTS genre, I don't think it has aged particularly well, thanks to the lack of two features. One was the ability to select multiple units by dragging a box around them. The other was the ability to give quick commands by clicking on something. Made the game somewhat tedious to play.

And I could never get far in the campaign because of a certain mission where the AI would send an engineer to capture and sell my construction yard before I could build up defenses around it.

#14 Alex MSQ

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:23 AM

Azimovs Foundation is also good!

#15 Xyph3r

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 05:33 AM

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Dune was awesome.

#16 RL Nice

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 04:16 PM

Although its influence can be more easily seen in Star Wars and definitely Warhammer 40,000, I'm kind of seeing the Feudal Future style of BattleTech originating in Dune.

#17 CG Chicken Kn

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 04:29 PM

I read A LOT. Have for over 40 years.
Dune is quite possibly the finest piece of literature I have ever read. After the 4th or 5th read through of at least the first 6 books, the vision of Herbert to tie a thread through thousands of years of history left me literally speechless.

Read them in order. Slowly.

Epic falls so short how I see that series it's not even funny.

*Foundation series is pretty darn solid too...:P

#18 SpuriousLogic

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 04:35 PM

Dune and Dune Messiah are fantastic. IMHO the rest after that are skipable.

If you are looking for a truly fantastic read, that seems to get missed a lot, look into an author named Gene Wolfe. He is even better than Herbert. The most famous of his books are his New Sun series.

Amazon links:
http://www.amazon.co...ords=gene+wolfe
http://www.amazon.co...ords=gene+wolfe

I picked these up by random chance, and they are the best SF I have read. You can put him up with Asimov, Herbert, Haldeman, Le Guin, etc and he will be right up at the top of the heap.

Edited by spuriouslogic, 01 October 2012 - 04:35 PM.


#19 Baldwin Chang

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 04:35 PM

Single greatest work of fiction. Ever. Herbert was an absolute genius and the completeness of his vision is astounding. It's like the man was living in that world, reading the lastest CHOAM numbers on whale fur or shaking his head at some great house foolishness. Herbert defined a genre the same way Tolkein did decades earlier with The Hobbit.

#20 SpuriousLogic

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 04:38 PM

View PostLoc ***, on 30 September 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

Dune is awesome, and well worth reading. The first three books were written back to back and read pretty seamlessly. God Emperor, written 20 years later, gets kinda slow and weird but I recommend it still, and the last two as well. Once Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson picked it up though, it no longer felt like Dune to me so I gave up on them after the first few, but I think they got better after that. Loved the Dune Encyclopedia though, by William McNally and a foreword by Frank Herbert in 84'. Epic scifi...

I second the Brian Herbert, Kevin Anderson comment. I read The Butlerian ***** and had to use an iron will to finish the book. Terrible stuff.



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