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[Namwons]

I find it kinda ironic that some people hate anime, but there favorite mechs are unseens

[Graefin Zeppelin]

Namwons, on 25 March 2012 - 03:43 AM, said:

I find it kinda ironic that some people hate anime, but there favorite mechs are unseens

Thats absolutely true in my case. It has alot to do however with these mechs being the first ones, the ones we started with and the ones we are emotionally attached to.
The Warhammer is a bloody icon for battletech for me.

[Temu]

the true command Battlemaster had a second Cockpit.. not just a second seat.

[Gremlich Johns]

The Battlemaster, or the HT128 Bigfoot from "Fang of the Sun: Dougram", was intended to be a command and control mech and had the following armaments: 2-barrel hand linear gun x 1, 6-tube missile pod x 1, 2-tube smoke discharger x 2

Kinda wimpy, eh...

[Oppi]

cinco, on 17 March 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

it looks stupid. that huge cockpit glass is a major liability. talk about huge weakspot.

It is not glass, it's transparent armor. You could equip a whole Mech with that stuff and not lose any durability. Learn some lore before you rant.

[colt]

I like BattleMaster alot, for game that suppose to certain the player attention aside from "get in there and smash it" to "tactics means something on the battlefield". Its a command 'Mech, which could if mechanics of game allow give you bonus to leading a large mech force.

The unseen problem is a bother, there been talk of the original images for unseen being flushed out of canon for new (old) images. Frankly, i'd rather see MWO do some own version of the BattleMaster and others for sake of having them. They were front line 'Mechs of Battletech, some best designs. Substitute 'Mechs they used from the Star League era were crap in comparison to them, specially some of the variants.

[Thor Grimm]

I was a 3025 tabletop gamer first, so I don't really have a high opinion of the Battlemaster. I think my favorite assault mech from 3025 was the Awesome, just had to manage heat from those ppc's. I just hope they force everyone to stick with real mech variants and not allow the Alpha strikers to many options.

[THE WALL]

Brilliant mech , first lead figure I brought, I fielded two at once ,but great fun few heat sinks good range of weaponry ..I lost badly

[Fetladral]

if I had a battlemaster I would pistol whip the first light mech that gets close to me. well if melee was in. otherwise it's a pretty good mech though i generally prefer heavies to assaults

[verybad]

Temu, on 25 March 2012 - 04:12 AM, said:

the true command Battlemaster had a second Cockpit.. not just a second seat.

Some did, it's nto a standard feature, and it costs tonnage.

The Battlemaster WAS an icon, but that was the original (unseen) version. It was simply better artwork than the Phoenix versions.

I've always found it rather bland however. Just not a very interesting mech. It does it's job, it's powerful certainly, but not outstandingly so amongst other Assaults. It's sort of a Generic Assault mech to me.

Edited by verybad, 25 March 2012 - 01:20 PM.

[Ezekial Karn]

I tend to prefer Medium mechs with at least one large energy weapon and heavy armor. They then tend to have the best mix of speed firepower and durability. They can do hit and run tatics and have little to no ammo constraints while having range and firepower to deal with light scout mechs and can deal with heavy mechs when working in numbers.

[Gremlich Johns]

verybad, on 25 March 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

The Battlemaster WAS an icon,

Not in any league I played in and I've been playing the BT/CBT/MW/TT games for over 25 years.

Edited by Gremlich Johns, 25 March 2012 - 03:12 PM.

[Doolie]

The Fox himself, Hanse Davion rides a Battlemaster. 'Nuff said.

-D

[Jonas]

I Always liked the Battle Master, I do like the one variant that had twin PPC's ( it was a clan MK IIC ) or was a modded one that the Red Corrsair used.

[John Talbert]

Cyclops for me.

[Paladin1]

Gremlich Johns, on 25 March 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Not in any league I played in and I've been playing the BT/CBT/MW/TT games for over 25 years.

*Looks at his CGL tee-shirt with the Battlemaster outline on the front*

Umm, I'm gonna call bullshit here. The Battlemaster has been an icon for years and I've got the T-shirt to prove it.

[Thomas Hogarth]

Paladin1, on 25 March 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

*Looks at his CGL tee-shirt with the Battlemaster outline on the front*

Umm, I'm gonna call bullshit here. The Battlemaster has been an icon for years and I've got the T-shirt to prove it.

Agreed. There is a set of three rulebooks that make up the current ruleset: Total Warfare, Tactical Operations, and Strategic Operations. All three of these are recently released from Catalyst, and very much so still being distributed. Of these three, two have the reseen Battlemaster on the cover.

Furthermore, the icon that denotes moderator/admin on the BattleTech forums is the reseen Battlemaster. As of right now, it would be fair to say that the reseen Battlemaster is the icon 'Mech of Battletech, a title previously held by the unseen Warhammer, the Atlas, the Timber Wolf, and then the Atlas again. The recent 25th anv. boxed set has a Hammerhands on the cover, which is a dead ringer for the unseen Warhammer, so that may end up being the next BT iconic 'Mech, but time will tell.

tl;dr the battlemaster is the current iconic 'Mech of BT.

[Knusern]

Naah. they can be taken out with a knife
Cassie Suthorn

Cassie convinced the ISF Assistant Director to help her disable the large machine. As Ninya distracted what turned out to be a BattleMaster with machine gun fire, Cassie, after cutting down her dress, jumped onto shoulders of the 'Mech from a fifth floor roof. She useed her extensive study of BattleMechs to release a hidden rescue lever and open the cockpit. Then sliced the MechWarrior with her vibro-blade and took over the BattleMech. She had limited knowledge of how to actually pilot the 'Mech but was able to ambush two of Blakist 'Machines, until she was forced to jump from the 'Mech into an icy pond. She is rescued by Eleanor Shimazu, who takes out the King Crab that disabled her captured 'Mech

[Karl Streiger]

I liked the Battlemaster - but he never liked me...
First use in my fifth battletech game - i used a double cockpit - first hit - critical hit gyro - my mech kissed the ground and the crew blacked out. Next round crew was dead.
Second usage - a heavy lance lead by a battlemaster holding some snakes at bay - a No-Dachi uses his TSM to close the gap and with a swift and clean sword strike the Battlemaster was dead.
Third usage this time intro level but conventional troops - harasser tank fired a salvo of SRMs in the side of the BM...you can guess what happen? right - ammunition explosion.
Fourth usage vs clans - lbx round damaged the gyro and the pilot blacked out

never used it again - will not use it in MWO even if it is the last battlemech available

[Grenndel]

Loved the battlemaster, was one of my favorite mechs. As far as it being an 'unseen' that is just it, unseen but not unmentioned. The art couldn't be used but it was still used in books and such. I believe it was Hanse Davion and Takashi Kurita's prefered mech for a long time and was mentioned even after the image ban.

But now it is free to be seen again and has other variants that are better than the basic one seen in the 3025 tech book. The BLR-4S and BLR-6X models are nice for instance.