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[Amarus Cameron]

aglarang, on 04 November 2011 - 06:08 AM, said:

yet you don't play by the same rules and bend them to create your own mythos that breaks the rules of Battletech canon. Well, that is a little hypocritical don't you think?

Nope, I know more than you

(also, lol to the amount of craziness your post created)

[CoffiNail]

old reply is old.

[Alizabeth Aijou]

Jaroth Winson, on 18 November 2011 - 09:16 AM, said:

Neg even if he is abtakha, the Prdye Bloodname is the exclusive property of Clan Jade Falcon.

Neg. If a warrior is abtakha, he assumes the identity of his new Clan.
The exclusive property only means that his new clan cannot use his genetic legacy in their breeding programs.
They can still qualify for Trials to earn their Bloodname, I think.
Vaguely remember one of the Ghost Bear Khans having a Wolf bloodname.

Edited by Alizabeth Aijou, 18 November 2011 - 10:42 AM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

That only applies if the warrior has all his bondcords severed & is accepted into the warrior caste of the new clan & if he has no Bloodname. Being captured by an enemy clan does not remove your Bloodname e.g. Jake Kabrinski of the Ghost Bears who was captured by the Hell's Horses. If the warrior has no Bloodname he will be called Alan <name of the clan that captured him>.

Yes but for the Bloodname of captured warrior's original Clan.

Edited by Jaroth Winson, 18 November 2011 - 10:48 AM.

[Amarus Cameron]

CoffiNail, on 18 November 2011 - 10:11 AM, said:

old reply is old.

Guys in the clan were lolling at how I completely ignored him, truth was I never saw it. But the answer would have been the same, cannot divulge my secrets

[Grayson Pryde]

Wow.... i just said i would like to go to the bears if the falcons are full( i hope they make trials or something). I think i rmember such a case where the bloodnamed warrior could still keep his bloodname. But the house can reniunce him.

[Alizabeth Aijou]

Why would, what is effectively his family, renounce him?
Especially when he shows that his conduct is honourable and is made Abtakha in his new Clan?

[Grayson Pryde]

Because the name would be free again. And a more worthy clansman can take it.

I didnt said that i like it, its just what ive read. I will lokk where ifound it.

[Hengst]

Jade Falcon

[Peryl]

I have always been drawn to the bear. Not just because I look like one, but by how the clan is founded on family principles. We take care of each other, drive each other on through competition, and always treat every member of the clan as though from our own sibko.

[Jaroth Corbett]

Grayson Pryde, on 20 November 2011 - 08:33 AM, said:

Because the name would be free again. And a more worthy clansman can take it.

I didnt said that i like it, its just what ive read. I will lokk where ifound it.

Yes please. I do not recall any situation where a warrior (Bloodnamed or not) would willingly choose to join another clan. If a warrior who has no Bloodname is captured by an enemy clan he still has the right to compete in a Trial of Bloodright for the Bloodname he is a part of. Of course the original clan would not like this situation & would probably try to stack the competition so that said warrior does not win the Bloodname then go back to his new clan with it. They cannot however, refuse him entry to the Trial.

[CoffiNail]

If they win the Grand Melee, and can win the bloodname, by all means he has proven himself, might makes right

[Jaroth Corbett]

That is going to be almost impossible. Clearly that warrior will not get a sponsor & will HAVE to enter the Grand Melee. The other members of the BloodHouse would get instructions to eliminate that warrior first.

[Alizabeth Aijou]

Not the case, typically.
From Era Digest: Golden Century:

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Because of the nature of Bloodnames, the Bloodhouse may stretch across Clans. Typically those with a Bloodright select from eligible candidates within their Clan, but there is no requirement to do so.

So he could be nominated for political reasons.
And if he already had a Bloodname before being taken as Bondsman, he does not lose it, unless he is subject to a Trial of Abjuration/Annihilation. Such as the case of the Wolverine, Widowmaker and Mongoose. (Nova Cat and Burrock are both future events in this game's timeline.)

The original Clan has little to do with it.
It is a family matter, so to speak.

Edited by Alizabeth Aijou, 20 November 2011 - 12:01 PM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

Alizabeth Aijou, on 20 November 2011 - 11:58 AM, said:

Not the case, typically.
So he could be nominated for political reasons.

Uh no. Firstly attaining a Bloodname allows you to sit on the Clan council of the clan you come from. You may be invited (this is not a guarantee but one can only assume that since a warrior with a Bloodname is a cut above the rest, they more than likely would be allowed) to sit in on the council of the clan that captured you but the only political power would come in the event there are a good bit of you from your clan.

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And if he already had a Bloodname before being taken as Bondsman, he does not lose it, unless he is subject to a Trial of Abjuration/Annihilation

True but there are things that can affect this:
1. Someone with the same Bloodname makes a colossal faux pas (e.g. Adler Malthus)
2. The Bloodname gets reaved. (e.g. the incident with the Coyotes. The warriors who were not deemed to have acted dishonorably were allowed to live & keep their Bloodnames, but the rest of warriors were wiped out & all traces of the Bloodline were destroyed. This not only meant that the taint was physically removed from the present but also the future as the warriors who kept their Bloodnames would most likely have not had their genes added to the active gene pool. This is essentially an unofficial Trial of Annihilation.

Edited by Jaroth Winson, 20 November 2011 - 01:02 PM.

[Jack Gallows]

Alizabeth Aijou, on 18 November 2011 - 10:41 AM, said:

Vaguely remember one of the Ghost Bear Khans having a Wolf bloodname.

Nadia Winson.

There's also a Garald Winson present as a Ghost Bear during the cutting of Phelan Kell's bondcord, so more then just Nadia of House Winson made it to Clan Ghost Bear with a Bloodname from either Wolf or Coyote.

I do have a question though, there was a card in the old mechwarrior card game that said it was a Ghost Bear mechwarrior, http://www.sarna.net...letha_Kabrinski, but her bloodname is that of an Elemental. I'm decent at Clan stuff but by no means super knowledgeable, this seems highly odd to have happened. Maybe it's an error on their part?

[Kodiak Jorgensson]

Ghost Bear as someone stated There grate at what they do

[Jaroth Corbett]

Jack Gallows, on 21 November 2011 - 05:19 AM, said:

Nadia Winson.

There's also a Garald Winson present as a Ghost Bear during the cutting of Phelan Kell's bondcord, so more then just Nadia of House Winson made it to Clan Ghost Bear with a Bloodname from either Wolf or Coyote.

I do have a question though, there was a card in the old mechwarrior card game that said it was a Ghost Bear mechwarrior, http://www.sarna.net...letha_Kabrinski, but her bloodname is that of an Elemental. I'm decent at Clan stuff but by no means super knowledgeable, this seems highly odd to have happened. Maybe it's an error on their part?

This can happen as you have shown. The most famous example is that of Jake Kabrinski a Ghost Bear warrior who was captured by the Hell's Horses. This situation is unique because not only did Jake rise to Khan of the Horses but because the Bears & Horses were mortal enemies. They really hated each other.

You seem to be asking a question about Aletha but I am not sure what it is. Can you please clarify?

Edited by Jaroth Winson, 21 November 2011 - 05:43 AM.

[Jack Gallows]

Jaroth Winson, on 21 November 2011 - 05:41 AM, said:

You seem to be asking a question about Aletha but I am not sure what it is. Can you please clarify?

Aletha is a mechwarrior, but I thought Kabrinski was an elemental bloodname. Does it matter? Are certain bloodnamed limited to a specific type of warrior (example, Kerenksy only a mechwarrior bloodname, and not a aerospace/elemental one,) or not? Maybe Aletha is an error, or I'm wrong labeling her a mechwarrior?

[Jaroth Corbett]

Oh not at all. A Bloodname assigned to a phenotype just means it is generally used to create that phenotype but not exclusively. It can happen, it is just not common.