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[Stealthsrevenge]

i hate the raven 3L when they have the 2 ssrms and the ecm and top speed of 150 kph that build is a cheap and label people that they play in easy mode. I tried that build i hate its boring, its doesnt get the job done for me so i slap the 3 medium laser and 2 srm6 with a speed of 137kph and destroy assault mechs. but i have more fun with the raven 4 x it has 1large laser, 1 medium laser 1 srm 6 and 2 machine gun that will be improve later and jump jets. i do about 400 damage on average per match. these are the 2 build i run unlike the other people that use the CHEAP build. If i am going to be fast i want to hit hard VERY hard and also fly over you to shoot you in the back and a mech that use skill.

[Buckminster]

I have one of each.

The 3L is a bit cheesy. I run mine with ECM, an ERPPC and twin streaks. The ERPPC is a fun touch, because it gives you a surprising bit of range, and the streaks are almost mandatory. It seems that as an ECM light mech, you need to grab streaks so you can clean the lights off of your assaults.

My 4X is stupid fun. I borrowed the XL 210 from my 3L, stripped the weapons, added an AC/20 with two tons of ammo and a small laser (because you WILL run out of ammo). It's not always the most effective, but that AC/20 is nasty against lights and often serves as the death hit on heavier mechs that have been in a fight. And really, nothing beats taking out an Atlas with an AC/20 shot to the face in a mech one third of the weight.

I just grabbed my 2X. I haven't used it much, but I'm thinking I'll tweak it to be twin large lasers and the SRM6. But only time will tell with that one.

[Gelf]

Raven is my favourite mech, especialy 3L . It can use for lot of roles, but I use it to build up a ECM coverage to my squad and ruin the day of LRMcats with my ERPPC. For close combat there are 2xMPL. Because most mech pilot is focusing on heavier mechs, I usually survive the match. With an XL engine top speed about 106MPH, that is enought to run out of field of fire, ECM is to never find you until you ppc them again. I love when they twisting torso to find me... Hindrace of this builtup is when you encounter a really fast jenner, oh god I hate them! But if you doing your role right, you have enought time (I mean armor) to run back to the big brothers to defend you. Never wandering too far from the others and you will be the mech of the day! My higest dmg on a play was 754, average is about 200-250.

[Hedonism Robot]

What is there to discuss about the raven, the 3L has ecm and tears people apart!

[ICEFANG13]

OP is from a long time ago, when the Raven-3L was a good mech, not the best, and the 2X and 4X had higher engine caps (I think), so they were average mechs too.

[Seelenlos]

Tooooooo OverPowered.

With cicada 2x Alpha with 2x LL from behind and it still stands.
We trun places and it kills me from behind with 1 Alpha.
Come on People, be serious. It is Over Powered with its small hit-box.
If htat is fixed, and you can then survive, then you are a really good pilot. Else, it is as good as any other, without this DEVELOPER-Buff !
And I swear, the have a second name, where they log in and kill us all with this build

[Reishiko]

Seelenlos, on 02 March 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

Tooooooo OverPowered.

With cicada 2x Alpha with 2x LL from behind and it still stands.
We trun places and it kills me from behind with 1 Alpha.
Come on People, be serious. It is Over Powered with its small hit-box.
If htat is fixed, and you can then survive, then you are a really good pilot. Else, it is as good as any other, without this DEVELOPER-Buff !
And I swear, the have a second name, where they log in and kill us all with this build

Two things:

First, Really?

If any of that nonsense you just spouted is even remotely true, you have zero armor, or he was running something crazy weapons wise. Or you were heavily damaged someplace and he intelligently shot your weak point.

Second, its bad enough this thread has been necro'd twice (once in January and once more in Febuary), but now you're necro'ing it again just to whine? F'ing deal with it man. Seriously, where did you find this thread, page 7?

Stop Necro'ing threads that have no business being raised.

[Methuselah Honeysuckle]

Currently grinding out the Ravens and they're pretty underwhelming (3L excluded) as someone who sticks to Conquest. The 2X and 4X are just too slow and fat to compete with other lights/mediums. The JJs on the 4X also has next to no usefulness when my main duty is capping and scouting.

[Buckminster]

(unashamedly continuing the revived dead thread)

The 2X and 4X are slow, but I think their role is less as a true scout/cap mech, and more as a light combat mech. I've built my 4X as a hit and run specialist (AC/20 and small laser), and it does the job nicely. In a one on one situation, I can easily take out a lot of mechs - the small laser is there for pot shots and once I'm out of ammo, but the AC/20 really delivers. And even though it is slower than most light mechs, it is certainly faster than most heavies and assaults, which means that you can stay out of their line of fire fairly easily. This mech was built for the ol' shoot and scoot.

My 2X hasn't seen much play time, but that's mostly because I've been working on the skills on my 4X and I don't have the cash for that extra XL engine yet.

[ragingmunkyz]

Only been actually reading the forum for a few days, but seriously, what is with the necro threads? Seems like a disproportionate amount of threads are necros from months ago and are about things which are now irrelevant. Super confusing...

Edited by ragingmunkyz, 04 March 2013 - 10:29 AM.

[Buckminster]

I know I've been chiming in to this one every time it revives, mostly because I am still working through my Basic skills on my three Ravens and I'm looking for thoughts and ideas on the non-3L Ravens. So much of what you read on the Raven is all about the 3L, and the 2X and 4X get lost. Sure, compared to the 3L they aren't much to write home about, but since you need to play them to advance your skills, I think the talk is relevant.

I've done the AC/20 4X, and considered twin AC/2s. But I don't really know what to do with my 2X to make it somehow different from the 4X and 3L.

[VtV Pilot RAID]

Hello everyone. honor 2 u.
I am a raven pilot ( i've many others in my mech bays but prefer my lil 35 ton super chicken). I currently run with max armor(ferro), (endo), double heat sinks, ECM (of course )& max size engine (150 kph). The modules i use are 2x sensor, 2x sesmic, accelerator & zoom. It is rather lightly armed & is not designed for direct confrontation. I've armed it with 2 meds (for close up work) & a ER PPC for harrassment & sniper fire/ or the 2nd set up with 2 meds, 1 ER lrg las & a srm 4 with 1 ton of ammo (20 shots). It's painted all black ,which works good in low light conditions where visual **** are not used . This set up doesn't get alot of kills or massive damage but it is fun to use. running thru a large pack of enemy mechs randomly shooting everything as i zip past them is lots of fun . But i usually get a bit dinged up in the process, still fun.

It's primary duties are :
#1 Recon
a: relay accurate information to team of enemy locations & numbers,
b: to establish target locks for missle carrying mechs
#2 sniping/harrassment fire at extreme ranges ( beyond missle range usually (1001+ meters)
a: doesn't do alot of damage that way but it's used to confuse the enemy & hopefully bait them into a crossfire trap..after they get tired of me shooting them for a minute or so n they can't hit me unless they have similar long range weapons ( & hitting a hull down super chicken at those ranges is a tad difficult).
: hopefully draw a few from the main body & to be eliminated by bigger mechs.
#3 capping , with it's extreme speed & accelerator it works good in this role. when enemies get near & trip the seismic sensor i simply run away & let bigger mechs deal with em.

Hopefully this set up may help someone else.
TY * honor 2 u.
RAID

[Funkupotamous]

Hi all. I've just recently come back to MWO after a few months hiatus and was curious if there were any new Raven builds that they've been tinkering around with? I've heard good things about large lasers so I'll probably give a couple of those a try...

Thanks in advance!

[Nightshade24]

Hi, first post on forums and I wanted to find a thread about the Raven in general so sorry about resurrecting this thread (possible) BUT if I don't, people will complain that thread already exists so it's a lose - lose situation. I think ECM has changed since this thread (not to sure, just started couple weeks ago) and it's more on the nerfed side then before above, I rarely see ravens on the battlefield or any lights besides Spider (which I own 2, 4 MG's and 12 Jump jets are fun). So now I think it's not to OP anymore. Also I noticed that the raven is a pretty strange mech for it's weight class, Stock is not to fast and it's unique in geometry, I love using the Ravens with the XL engines and such, my 2x is pretty much stock with Endo steel and double heatsinks and the biggest XL engine it can fit and my 3L resembles a mix between itself and a more later variant of the Raven not in game. .

I was wondering, I got 2 ideas for future Ravens.

1) Raven RVN-3M R

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RVN-3M - This variant, based on the 3L variant, removes the SRM-6 launcher, the medium lasers, and the electronic warfare systems and TAG laser in order to turn the Raven into a long range fire support unit. This long range capability is shown by the use of a 15-tubed Long Range Missile launcher. Additionally, the 'Mech sports two Small lasers and a Small Pulse Laser in the event any enemies get under the minimum range of its missile launcher. This version retains the Narc Beacon used by the 3L, and also includes two ammunition bins for the missile launcher so that the Raven can maintain its fire support role without worrying about resupplying too often.

Quoted from Sarna.net, pretty much in short, it is a 3L with a LRM 15, the mediums are downgraded to Small lasers, and the TAG is a Small pulse laser, the LRM launcher got 15 tubes so it fires all of the missiles in the same time more or less.

2) Possible hero mech, No known name, It's a Solaris variant, and I don't know if it uses clan tech or not, It is made from the 3M I believe.

It got a LRM 20 (Right torso) and a ER Large laser (Right arm) and Double heatsinks, It may be after the clan invasion though I am not 100% sure, those can be a Clan LRM 20 and a Clan ER Large laser or Double heatsinks, It keeps the engine of the 3M and also more or less the same armour, I think more armour from the other side of the mech to the other.

It's vague I know, but it is less vague then the Deaths Knell and other hero mechs, I am not sure if some of them even existent cannonly, I remember this raven from some MW games and a few comics from before MW2 was made (not sure when it's made, but it's not new that's for sure) We only have 1 Hero light mech so I think it would be good for another Hero mech to come along, and even if it is clan tech incorporated, The Clan invasion isn't that far away.

Sorry for my English, It's not exactly my first language, Any opinions on my idea for the 2 ravens? I know I know, LRM's on a light mech, but it can easily be switched for something else and/or multiple SRM's.

[Corvus Antaka]

3L, I like

1 ERPPC

2 SLaser

2 SRM2

XL 280

Great little mech, nasty at any range, and great for killing spiders. gets a little hot sometimes though.

[Blackwolf 1 1]

I absolutely love the Raven, it's my favorite mech currently in game. The only other mech I play as much with and do as well with is my Misery. As far as Raven builds go, for the newer people, there are lots of flexible options. The only drawback to the 3L is that it has no ballistics hardpoints Oh well though, can't have it all haha.

I have two Raven builds that I use. The basics for both include an XL 280 engine and ECM. On one I run maxed armor and a pair of large lasers in the arm, with the last ton used for an extra engine heat sink. I tend to do really well in this one as a support sniper and scout. It does enough damage to cause other lights to think twice, and is enough to get the attention of any mech on the field, while still being fast enough to get away. It's great leading an enemy light back into an ambush or dragging a couple of heavies or assaults away from the front line and depriving the enemy team of their firepower, usually long enough to cause them to lose. The key to this build is to fight smarter, not harder.

The other build Is purely for laughs though. I got bored one night and had nothing better to do in the mechlab, and had an idea. I used to run dual LRM 20's on a Hunchback 4SP and I thought "I wonder if I could get one to fit one my Raven?" So after fiddling around, I dropped the engine heat sink, tossed on a ton of LRM ammo, lost some armor, and threw on an LRM 20. Then another crazy idea came to me. "If I keep this in the shoulder, I'll run out of ammo too fast. I need to solve this." The solution? Move the 20 to the Narc tube in the arm! I have never laughed in a match as much as I did the first time I ran this build. I discovered that it has 1 reason, and 1 reason only to exist. To make people laugh. First run was on Terra Therma, and I was the last member of my team alive. I ran out of ammo after doing almost no damage the entire match, and everyone on both sides was urging me on to kill the mediums and heavies chasing me around their base by biting their ankles. Best match ever. The most damage I've ever done with it was 37 by the end of a match, and that was after losing some armor and throwing on a small laser as backup. You won't do much damage with this build, and will probably get chewed out by people who only enjoy Min/Maxing builds and rushing out to die early on, but it's balanced out because you can make many other peoples days more enjoyable

Hope you have fun with either of these builds!

Edited by Blackwolf 1 1, 26 August 2013 - 07:36 AM.

[Funkupotamous]

I've been messing around with the 4X for fun, using Ultra AC/5 or LRM 15 or Large Pulse Laser depending on my mood.

My 3L however is getting between 300-600 damage a match on average (Last match was 595).

XL 295

3 Med Laser

Srm 6

Srm 2

3 tons of SRM ammo

Bob, weave, and make the best out of your ECM.

Hoping for a hero Raven soon. My recommendations are either a 3L-like with jump jets or a 4X-like but with a full missile arm for LRM/SRM, or perhaps missile ports in both torsos and arms each have 2 energy points. Either way make sure it can at least use a 295 engine and is capable of flight!

[borisof007]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 19 August 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

3L, I like

1 ERPPC

2 SLaser

2 SRM2

XL 280

Great little mech, nasty at any range, and great for killing spiders. gets a little hot sometimes though.

I use a very similar build. But what I sacrifice in speed I gain in firepower:

1 ER PPC
2 Medium Lasers
2 Streak SRM 2's (2 tons of ammo)
XL 245 Engine
ES structure, FF Armor

It's only got a 1.14 heat efficiency, but I run with two cool shots. Alternately, you can take a ton of ammo out and get a 1.19 heat efficiency, but the .05 added effect isn't worth the lack of ammo IMO.

Edited by borisof007, 26 August 2013 - 05:14 PM.

[Dagada Moor]

I hate Ravens! Please pilot one so I can hunt you.

[Derpington Von Trollington]

I'm currently having fun with a Raven 4x, it was terrible until i swapped the stock engine with a standard 200, that alone improved its performance A LOT.
Now i'm running this RVN-4X and i love it.
With the decent speed and the jump jets you can sneak behind heavies and assaults, nuke their rear armor with the med pulses and srm6 and the destroy the internal with the machinguns.
It is also quite good vs other lights, i have killed quite a bunch of spiders and today i had a 1 vs 2 against 2 jenners and killed one before getting killed
Now i have a 1.30 k/d and 1.39 win/loss with it and i'm getting better.

Will buy the 3L and then 2x as next mechs for sure

Edited by Derpington Von Trollington, 28 August 2013 - 12:55 PM.