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[Chief 117]

Norris J Packard, on 03 November 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

How? How can you can compensate for irregular damage recognition on a stationary target?

What is this magic technique that no one has ever heard of?

If the target is stationary I don't have problems. I often destroy shutdown mechs.

Indoorsman, on 03 November 2012 - 01:47 AM, said:

Try shooting a max speed light while driving a max speed light. It's frustrating :-p

not a problem really, I take pride in my work of hunting light mechs with my commando

[Norris J Packard]

Chief 117, on 03 November 2012 - 01:49 AM, said:

If the target is stationary I don't have problems. I often destroy shutdown mechs.

And yet the problem persists on stationary Mechs.

As you can see in the videos.

[Vassago Rain]

Chief 117, on 03 November 2012 - 01:49 AM, said:

If the target is stationary I don't have problems. I often destroy shutdown mechs.


not a problem really, I take pride in my work of hunting light mechs with my commando

Okay. I know you're just fanboying them now.

[Krivvan]

Lin and I came to the same conclusion too. It is especially noticeable when a mech shuts down.

Apparently it's a bug from their attempt at fixing the hit detection problems from lag, except it ended up making hit detection worse overall. They're rolling it back ASAP from what I heard.

[Chief 117]

Vassago Rain, on 03 November 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

Okay. I know you're just fanboying them now.

If you see it this way then ok. I can understand that people have problem with shooting stationary targets. This is due to two facts:
1) We all play on Yankee servers
2) There is not client hit detection
fix the above points and you fix the aiming problems

[Vassago Rain]

Chief 117, on 03 November 2012 - 01:55 AM, said:

If you see it this way then ok. I can understand that people have problem with shooting stationary targets. This is due to two facts:
1) We all play on Yankee servers
2) There is not client hit detection
fix the above points and you fix the aiming problems

[Norris J Packard]

Chief 117, on 03 November 2012 - 01:55 AM, said:

If you see it this way then ok. I can understand that people have problem with shooting stationary targets. This is due to two facts:
1) We all play on Yankee servers
2) There is not client hit detection
fix the above points and you fix the aiming problems

I have 50-60m/s and live stateside and still see the problem.

Edited by Norris J Packard, 03 November 2012 - 01:58 AM.

[Chief 117]

Vassago Rain, on 03 November 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

Elaborate, or are you limited to using pictures to communicate ?

[Inconspicuous]

I have very good ping and the hit detection problem is not just lag shield as Chief seems to think it is.

[Krivvan]

Norris J Packard, on 03 November 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

I have 50-60m/s and live stateside and still see the problem.

It affects people differently and not just based on ping.

[Norris J Packard]

Krivvan, on 03 November 2012 - 02:01 AM, said:

It affects people differently and not just based on ping.

I'm aware, I am just telling Chief that this isn't a ping/location problem.

[Rifter]

The thing is alot of people dont realize just how bad it is because in the heat of battle you never know what hits and doesnt cause you are to busy trying not to get killed and killing people. When i started recording myself and rewatching a few matches i played then you really start to notice just how bad it is.

The truth is its very bad, some games i play in my AC20 hunch ill blow 2 tons of ammo on clean hits that just dont do any damage.

[Chief 117]

Inconspicuous, on 03 November 2012 - 02:01 AM, said:

I have very good ping and the hit detection problem is not just lag shield as Chief seems to think it is.

It is still a serverside issue nevertheless, client hit detection would fix it

[Vassago Rain]

Chief 117, on 03 November 2012 - 01:59 AM, said:

Elaborate, or are you limited to using pictures to communicate ?

[Indoorsman]

So 1 of 3 things is going on w/chief 117 here. He's trolling, he hasn't actually experienced the issue so doesn't know what he's talking about. Or he just doesn't notice when he does experience the issue.

[Insidious Johnson]

The collision thing just makes it worse than it already is. The lead with lasers is different for every target. It is a matter of finding it. Consistency is desired. No lead on lasers!

[Indoorsman]

Insidious Johnson, on 03 November 2012 - 02:08 AM, said:

The collision thing just makes it worse than it already is. The lead with lasers is different for every target. It is a matter of finding it. Consistency is desired. No lead on lasers!

Exactly, no mech travels faster than the speed of light so lasers should be point and click damage.

[Chief 117]

Insidious Johnson, on 03 November 2012 - 02:08 AM, said:

The collision thing just makes it worse than it already is. The lead with lasers is different for every target. It is a matter of finding it. Consistency is desired. No lead on lasers!

it is still a serverside problem, we had the same exact problem in RO2 until they gave us client hit detection, sure we have a few cheaters every now and then but the overall experience is undoubtedly superior

Indoorsman, on 03 November 2012 - 02:10 AM, said:

Exactly, no mech travels faster than the speed of light so lasers should be point and click damage.

But the problem is not with the lasers !

[idle crow]

Its like playing MW4 again.

[Indoorsman]

Chief 117, on 03 November 2012 - 02:12 AM, said:

But the problem is not with the lasers !

Lasers are the best example to show the issue, instant travel means if you point at something and shoot with lasers you should hit. Currently that's not always the case. Lasers remove user error like bullet drop/travel time, missile mechanics etc..