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[Gafron]

First and foremost, because it is very lucrative. I can make 3 million or more cbills an hour due to the game mechanics, which is more than I can make by playing to survive and win.

Second is the game is very unstable. It gets very frustrating when trying to play to survive and win to have the client crash or the framerate drop to 4 fps. The suicide rush mitigates this.

Third are features that are not fully implemented or are bugged. We have place holder features, buggy features, a relatively small number of features. It all adds up to frustration when playing to survive and win.

Fourth is that repair and rearm costs are far too high. In some mech configurations the cost to run them is almost as much or more than you can expect to average getting in battles. How are you supposed to pay to run these mechs and afford to purchase others without some kind of grinding?

I do try to give some value to my team by scouting on the way, going for the opp base to cause the enemy to go defend it and most of the time I relay to my team where I am seeing the enemy but for now I mostly suicide rush. I won't always do so but for now that is how I am playing.

[Shamoo]

FYI, You just posted you violate the TOS.

P.S. there are posts from dev's on how they are working to eliminate your game play style as it's considered an exploit. Way to go ! (golf clap)

Edited by Shamoo, 31 October 2012 - 12:01 PM.

[Sandpit]

[color=#959595]We are addressing several known issues with farming.[/color]

Trial Mech Locking

• Trial Mechs will now work the same as any BattleMech, they are locked until the match ends. This ends the ability for a macro player to "churn" matches to maximize CB.

Quitting/Disconnecting Early - While Still Alive

• You will only receive rewards up to the point of disconnection.
  
• NOTE: If you are dead, you will receive earned rewards, plus match rewards.

Idle/AFK

• Players that fail to provide any input will be kicked from a match Although it does not prevent a macro player from simply putting in inputs, it forces them to LOOK like a bot.

Abusing this system is considered a violation of the TOS/COC

Thanks for making it easy to report you though

[Kriegs]

Gafron, on 31 October 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

First and foremost, because it is very lucrative. I can make 3 million or more cbills an hour due to the game mechanics, which is more than I can make by playing to survive and win.

Second is the game is very unstable. It gets very frustrating when trying to play to survive and win to have the client crash or the framerate drop to 4 fps. The suicide rush mitigates this.

Third are features that are not fully implemented or are bugged. We have place holder features, buggy features, a relatively small number of features. It all adds up to frustration when playing to survive and win.

Fourth is that repair and rearm costs are far too high. In some mech configurations the cost to run them is almost as much or more than you can expect to average getting in battles. How are you supposed to pay to run these mechs and afford to purchase others without some kind of grinding?

I do try to give some value to my team by scouting on the way, going for the opp base to cause the enemy to go defend it and most of the time I relay to my team where I am seeing the enemy but for now I mostly suicide rush. I won't always do so but for now that is how I am playing.

[Gafron]

Sandpit, on 31 October 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

[color=#959595]We are addressing several known issues with farming.[/color]

Trial Mech Locking

• Trial Mechs will now work the same as any BattleMech, they are locked until the match ends. This ends the ability for a macro player to "churn" matches to maximize CB.

Quitting/Disconnecting Early - While Still Alive

• You will only receive rewards up to the point of disconnection.
  
• NOTE: If you are dead, you will receive earned rewards, plus match rewards.

Idle/AFK

• Players that fail to provide any input will be kicked from a match Although it does not prevent a macro player from simply putting in inputs, it forces them to LOOK like a bot.

Abusing this system is considered a violation of the TOS/COC


Thanks for making it easy to report you though

Apparently reading comprehension is not your forte. What I am doing is not mentioned in what you posted.

[Taryys]

You have some valid complaints.
This is a BETA and things are broke and that is par for the course for a Beta game.
Things will change, but it is going to take time.

Suicide farming is a violation. You have been reported.

[Guide] Playing with Friends, Groups, and Teams

[lsp]

Gafron, on 31 October 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

First and foremost, because it is very lucrative. I can make 3 million or more cbills an hour due to the game mechanics, which is more than I can make by playing to survive and win.

Second is the game is very unstable. It gets very frustrating when trying to play to survive and win to have the client crash or the framerate drop to 4 fps. The suicide rush mitigates this.

Third are features that are not fully implemented or are bugged. We have place holder features, buggy features, a relatively small number of features. It all adds up to frustration when playing to survive and win.

Fourth is that repair and rearm costs are far too high. In some mech configurations the cost to run them is almost as much or more than you can expect to average getting in battles. How are you supposed to pay to run these mechs and afford to purchase others without some kind of grinding?

I do try to give some value to my team by scouting on the way, going for the opp base to cause the enemy to go defend it and most of the time I relay to my team where I am seeing the enemy but for now I mostly suicide rush. I won't always do so but for now that is how I am playing.

I run a streak cat, if my mech gets destroyed and I use ammo my repair bill can be 130k. And yet I never do what you do, and I have 6million in the bank right now.

[Droknar]

Apart from violating the TOS there are other pitfalls to your plan.

1. Your making a bad name for yourself, if at some point we get lobbies I imagin you will have a hard time finding a place in one. Who wants to team with someone who does nothing.

2. There is a feature coming where if you suicide you get nothing at the end of a match.

3. You say you have issues with FPS and such, how will you grinding millions of C-bills fix this? Buying a bigger mech doesnt fix performance.

4. Repair costs have been returned to what they were before this last patch so it isnt so bad again.

[Sandpit]

Gafron, on 31 October 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

Apparently reading comprehension is not your forte. What I am doing is not mentioned in what you posted.

Then continue on playing as you like. If you're right you have nothing to worry about. If not you can have fun with your ban or wipe.

Guys again just report the thread and let it die. Everytime we post it just gets bumped back up to the top

[Axeman1]

lsp, on 31 October 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:

I run a streak cat, if my mech gets destroyed and I use ammo my repair bill can be 130k. And yet I never do what you do, and I have 6million in the bank right now.

******* founder posting this. WELL NO ****!

[River McCain]

Not something you should openly admit to doing, but hey it is just $120 bucks on the line no biggy.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

You make 3Mil per hour?!

... I only get over 2Mil per hour doing it.
But ya, I agree with you. There's no fair MM in place(Where the hell is our Phase 1?!) and you get less for actually trying to fight. Let me say that again... you get LESS money for fighting than you do for die/requeue farming. You also really need expensive upgrades to make your Mech good. These upgrades are suppose to be "optional" or "alternate" choices(Like all the weapons) not REQUIRED upgrades that you've no reason to run without. May as well just die faster and requeue until you can afford them. Who cares about K/D ratios? It'd be in the gutter anyway from the 90% pug lose rate. They want me to drop 2.5M on my Atlas for DHS/Endo to max his potential so this is me getting the money.

[hessian]

lsp, on 31 October 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:

I run a streak cat, if my mech gets destroyed and I use ammo my repair bill can be 130k. And yet I never do what you do, and I have 6million in the bank right now.

Pretty sure streak cats are at the level of the suicide farmers.

[Arcilla]

Gafron, on 31 October 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

Fourth is that repair and rearm costs are far too high. In some mech configurations the cost to run them is almost as much or more than you can expect to average getting in battles. How are you supposed to pay to run these mechs and afford to purchase others without some kind of grinding?

You can always go premium, or play a few matches with a trial mech. You either invest cash or time - you don't ruin the game for the others on your team willing to accept that a F2P game requires either of these two. Their repair cost will increase because of you.

I can only hope that whenever you do play with your bought mech, you're stuck with an entire team of players who do this to do, so you can see how fun it is from the *** end.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Taryys, on 31 October 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

You have some valid complaints.
This is a BETA and things are broke and that is par for the course for a Beta game.
Things will change, but it is going to take time.

Suicide farming is a violation. You have been reported.

[Guide] Playing with Friends, Groups, and Teams

Stop being a tool and attacking a symptom instead of the problem. This is a faulty system and it needs to be changed. Until then, don't blame players for doing what earns them more C-Bills.

[GODzillaGSPB]

Taryys, on 31 October 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

You have some valid complaints.
This is a BETA and things are broke and that is par for the course for a Beta game.
Things will change, but it is going to take time.

Suicide farming is a violation. You have been reported.

[Guide] Playing with Friends, Groups, and Teams

And good ridance I say. And he is a legendary founder, shame! He spent money on the game to support it, then plays to destroy it. Stupid, stupid, stupid!

And if he regrets his buy then there was enough time to get a refund. Didn't do it, deserves his fate. Any fate. Because buying customer or not, behaviour like this should get you banned. Like forever. He could register a new account but his founder-stuff would be gone for good. Too bad.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Arcilla, on 31 October 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

You can always go premium, or play a few matches with a trial mech. You either invest cash or time - you don't ruin the game for the others on your team willing to accept that a F2P game requires either of these two. Their repair cost will increase because of you.

I can only hope that whenever you do play with your bought mech, you're stuck with an entire team of players who do this to do, so you can see how fun it is from the *** end.

Even with Premium/boosts die farming is still more profitable than fighting.

[silentD11]

Taryys, on 31 October 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

Suicide farming is a violation. You have been reported.

Let's be honest here. Dropping a trial mech in a PUG is suicide farming already. He's not saying he's going afk, idle, using a bot, a suicide command, or any of that. He's just loading up a trial mech and running it at the enemy base, while sending out information, and getting blown to hell and back as quick as possible.

That's actually one of the best ways to grind cbills right now, is a premade/bad match up proof option, and isn't a flagrant violation of the TOS. A lot of the "idiots" you see going off on their own, are simply trying to get blown up as fast as possible. It's the tastest way to grind to cbills that doesn't involve stomping PUGs with a premade or spending real $$$. And if you know you're going to get curb stomped anyways it saves you the hassle.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

GODzillaGSPB, on 31 October 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

And good ridance I say. And he is a legendary founder, shame! He spent money on the game to support it, then plays to destroy it. Stupid, stupid, stupid!

And if he regrets his buy then there was enough time to get a refund. Didn't do it, deserves his fate. Any fate. Because buying customer or not, behaviour like this should get you banned. Like forever. He could register a new account but his founder-stuff would be gone for good. Too bad.

If they follow your moronic logic this game is doomed. Banning suicide farmers is just going to plug leaks and not fix the cause of the problem. The economy is fuked up and it needs to be fixed. If suiciding wasn't profitable or didn't reward us... we wouldn't do it!

[StonedVet]

hahaha this is gold! ... he actually admits to it.

Play the game and have fun with the people you play with ..

That is all