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[Tarman]

I only have minor issues with LRM, and they're about game functionality. The actual missiles could stand to interact with cover a bit better(ie hit it when someone is using it for actual cover), and maybe cut out a bit of the seeker properties; I've seen salvos turn 90 degrees to blast someone under a bridge on River City. After being so brain-damaged during the first couple hundred metres where the missiles can't even clear the ground half the time, they suddenly become sentient. They just need to be a bit smarter at launch and a bit less smart at target and they should be just about right; no major overhauls or anything, just better launching and more of the game cover actually functioning. With a more advanced e-war game coming up, LRMing could change again; we'll have to wait and see how that goes as well.

I drive a lot of scouts, and even when I don't, I still pick targets with LRM in mind if I know it's in our back deck. Very satisfying to watch someone who thinks they've lined you up for a shot, suddenly realize they've been maneuvered to take a few salvos of missiles in the RCT. Somebody needs to bring the rain so we can call it down on the people trying to kill us. I'm playing robot wars, there is no such thing as a boat to me; there's only long range missile artillery support.

[Rifter]

Digital Ninja, on 31 October 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

I love the way the missile swarms look as they fly. That and I think LRM boats will likely be good ones to use the command gadget on since they're out of the action.

I agree, and im sure thats why the DC atlas has three missle slots.

[mattkachu]

I love the feeling when i close into the 180m gap between a heavy LRM Atlas, and he tries to turn and run.

No better feeling in the world... well maybe stepping on jenners that try to leg hump big mechs only to find out Atlas arms can point downwards.

LRMs are fine, Jenners are fine. Nothing outrageously OP anymore. Most people complaining about weapon systems is a strawman for a poorly coordinated team.

[Kronos907]

I love eating LRM boats they are my primary target of choice, i will pass by a guass cat just to pound on a boat, once inside 180 meters i can feel there panic!!! Pure Joy.

I mostly pug so I othen watch multiple teamates wander aimlessly into LRM death while I skirt around behind them and unleash my mahem.

Ive had up to 14 mechs at one time and none of them ever have lrms on them, i like to get close and personal with my attacks, its my opinion LRMs are for the less skilled pilots who are still figureing things out. it seem a bit cowardly to attack from long range to me. but hey thats my opinion.

[Choombatta]

Tarman, on 31 October 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

I only have minor issues with LRM, and they're about game functionality. The actual missiles could stand to interact with cover a bit better(ie hit it when someone is using it for actual cover), and maybe cut out a bit of the seeker properties; I've seen salvos turn 90 degrees to blast someone under a bridge on River City.

What you are seeing here is intended behavior.
The person firing the missiles lost the lock on target, and then regained it.

When you lose the lock on your target while missiles are in flight, the missiles continue on to the last location you had a lock on the original target.

If you regain the lock on the original target, the missiles will alter flight path to the new location.

You CANNOT lose lock on the original target, and then target a new enemy, and have the missiles alter flight path to the new target.

I hear too many people claim the second, and it is completely false. ( Not implying you said this Tarman ).

[Calmon]

Grabes, on 31 October 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:

Yes, I rather enjoy LRM boating. I enjoy using LRMS on my brawler to soften people up. To add extra firepower against the scout at the start when they do the little peek and duck over the ledge.

I enjoy it because it is a good portion of damage in a support form.

I fully enjoy and agree with how the gameplay mechanics are for missles in this game. It requires a lock and hold like a flight sim. It requires LoS of the mech in the field, and it requires you to get a feel of how the flight path is to deliver the most damage per salvo.

It does not take as much 'skill' as learning to dodge and weave in the circle of death brawling that a medium does. Also no, it does not require one to have twitch skills, or even the ability to breathe, walk, and chew bubblegum at the same time.

However I fully enjoy playing the long range support in this game for the true glory of this meta game is acheived when evenly matched teams fight each other.

Every beta tester that has ever grouped has a story on how they met up with such and such on the field and it was a long, drawn out fight. Baiting, cover, the slow movement of back and forth darting over the ridge to potshot. this is where the team with good long range support makes the diffrence.

So yes, I enjoy the LRM boat. It will always have a place in my stable of mechs, as well as in the meta game.

It will also be the source of continous cries of OP, lame and not fair.

To those who complain of LRMS I only have one thing to say. Please stop standing on top of the hill with four mechs shooting you. LRMs are incoming.

PS.
(Made for Omar)

Strange I'm also a LRM boat (awesome), I enjoy it usually but I find myself pretty much OP and so fully understand the crying.

Damage per rocket should be half of SRM rocket. SRM in moment at 2.5 so LRM should be at 1.25 and NOT on 2!

Edited by Calmon, 01 November 2012 - 05:46 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

I like LRM boating as well, but it is really hit or miss as a PUG. For all the complaining about how OP LRMs are, if you do not have team support, they can be tricky to use.

When you PUG, it seems these two things happen...1). you can't get lock for more than 2 secs at a time for almost the entire match, or 2) The team plays better and you can rain death on half their team often resulting in multiple kills.

Most times I run SRMs instead. It is less of a team player load out, but again with how tricky LRMs are PUGing, I want the additional Mech on Mech firepower. If I was in a group, I would run more LRM load outs.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 01 November 2012 - 05:47 AM.

[Taiji]

It's great that old people and small children have something they can do too

(Please don't pug though. Instead stay nice and safely protected in a premade. Or you're liability that noone agreed before match to deal with. In fact I'd like to kill you myself if you bring an LRM assault to a pug )

Edited by Taiji, 01 November 2012 - 05:50 AM.

[Choombatta]

Taiji, on 01 November 2012 - 05:47 AM, said:

(Please don't pug though. Instead stay nice and safely protected in a premade. Or you're liability that noone agreed before match to deal with. In fact I'd like to kill you myself if you bring an LRM assault to a pug )

Considering all stock Atlases come with LRMs, I can see that the history of Battletech agrees with you.............oh wait!
Making an all LRM assault is far from optimal, but an Atlas with an LRM15, a Gauss rifle, and 2 MPLs...........now that is a mean Mech at any range.

[gbrown]

LRM's are fine. So is brawling, sniping and scouting. Different strokes for different folks. There are counters for all of the different styles of combat and not everyone can do them all. I have tried all of them and enjoy all of them (not that I am particularly good at scouting [I forget to run or hide instead of turning and fighting], it's still a challenge and a skill I want to improve). I've listened to a lot of griping about several weapons but mostly LRM's and Gause. They each have a place and they each have a weakness that can be exploited by a good pilot in the right mech.

You will not always be your enemy's equal but that shouldn't stop you from being able to kill him. You just might not do it head on. They all have backs and blind spots.

[jhahs]

Certainly it's the role that requires the least skill :-)

[Particle Man]

Choombatta, on 01 November 2012 - 06:54 AM, said:

Considering all stock Atlases come with LRMs, I can see that the history of Battletech agrees with you.............oh wait!
Making an all LRM assault is far from optimal, but an Atlas with an LRM15, a Gauss rifle, and 2 MPLs...........now that is a mean Mech at any range.

you mean 4MPLas