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[627]

My Mech hanger starts to grow and i have a C1 and a K2 in it. Time for a third cat. In closed beta i always took the A1, loved the streaks ore a mixed build. I never bothered to take the C4.

But now, with all the upgrades I had a spare ton on my gauss K2 and took 2 small lasers mit, and that was really a good choice - ammo lasts longer and you have something to fall back on.

So, how good is the C4? You don't see it often on the 'fields...

I thought about a LRM-Carrier with two Medium (pulse?) Lasers - do you get this with 4 LRM15 and a good load of ammo? Does that fit?

Or are there some other viable builds?

[Athomahawk]

Self Tagging, lrm/ssrm with a good amount of ammo. 180-270m will absolutely wreck tagged targets in direct fire mode with lrm and ssrm firing together. You could also go heavier on lrms and use a smaller engine but I like the mobility of xl300.

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Model Name: CPLT-C4
Variant Name: "LRMER"
Engine: 300 XL Engine
Internal Type: Endo Steel
Armor Type: Std Armor
Heat Sinks: 15 (12) Double Heat Sinks
Tonnage: 65.00
Speed: 74.8 kph
Armor Total: 416
Alpha Strike Damage: 76.00
Alpha Strike Heat: 19.00
Firepower: 18.57 dps
Heat Efficiency: 62.12%
Effective Range of Loadout: 630m

Armor:
Head: 18/18
Right Torso: 38/60
Right Rear Torso: 22/60
Center Torso: 56/84
Center Rear Torso: 28/84
Left Torso: 38/60
Left Rear Torso: 22/60
Right Arm: 40/40
Left Arm: 40/40
Right Leg: 57/60
Left Leg: 57/60

Loadout:
Right Arm: Streak SRM2, LRM15, Endo Steel x 6
Left Arm: Streak SRM2, LRM15, Endo Steel x 6
Right Torso: Jump Jet, Double Heat Sink, AMS, AMS Ammo, Endo Steel x 2
Left Torso: Double Heat Sink x 2, LRM Ammo x 2, Streak SRM Ammo
Center Torso: Medium Pulse Laser, TAG
Head: Streak SRM Ammo
Right Leg: LRM Ammo x 2
Left Leg: LRM Ammo x 2
File created using MWO Mechbay and edited by Athomahawk

Edited by Athomahawk, 03 November 2012 - 01:02 PM.

[JudgeDeathCZ]

my c4 LRM support since i am playing in team

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Chassis Name: Catapult
Model Name: CPLT-C4
Variant Name: nejlepcenejsi

Engine: 250 Reg Engine
Internal Type: Endo Steel
Armor Type: Std Armor
Heat Sinks: 14 (10) Standard Heat Sinks

Tonnage: 65,00
Speed: 62,3 kph
Armor Total: 352
Alpha Strike Damage: 90,00
Alpha Strike Heat: 24,00
Firepower: 23,83 dps
Heat Efficiency: 22,34%
Effective Range of Loadout: 630m

Head: 18/18
Right Torso: 42/60
Right Rear Torso: 15/60
Center Torso: 53/84
Center Rear Torso: 17/84
Left Torso: 42/60
Left Rear Torso: 15/60
Right Arm: 30/40
Left Arm: 30/40
Right Leg: 45/60
Left Leg: 45/60

Right Arm:
LRM10
LRM10

Left Arm:
LRM10
LRM10

Right Torso:
AMS
Endo Steel
Endo Steel
Endo Steel
Endo Steel
Endo Steel
Endo Steel
Endo Steel
Endo Steel
Endo Steel
Endo Steel
Endo Steel

Left Torso:
AMS Ammo
LRM Ammo
LRM Ammo
LRM Ammo
LRM Ammo
Endo Steel
Endo Steel
Endo Steel

Center Torso:
Medium Laser
Medium Laser

Head:

Right Leg:
Heat Sink
Heat Sink

Left Leg:
Heat Sink
Heat Sink

File created using MWO Mechbay

Edited by JudgeDeathCZ, 03 November 2012 - 08:16 AM.

[627]

Thank you, will try that.

Is 4x LRM10 better than 2x LRM20? Hotter and fires faster, right?

Btw, whats MWO mechbay? can I design my build without buying it? want

[Athomahawk]

Try google search

Another fun build for the C4 is MPL + 4 x SSRM2, absolutely vicious

Edited by Athomahawk, 03 November 2012 - 11:22 AM.

[JudgeDeathCZ]

and u can chain fire 4xLRM10 better than 2xLRM20

[Athomahawk]

Judge you only have four tons of ammo? I would not be comfortable using 4 lrm10s with only four tons of lrm ammo...

[Dewil]

I had fun with one of these for a while bak when C-bills was free.

2 Medium lasers
4 SRM6
Max armor
And a fast engine

I came up behind a Gauss-cat once that hadn't noticed me. One Alfa-strike and he immediatly died. I'd give anything to see his reaction.

It was fun to play with when you could afford it after playing 3-4 games. But now when you need to play for 5+ hours I dont think I'll build it again.

[JudgeDeathCZ]

Athomahawk, on 03 November 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

Judge you only have four tons of ammo? I would not be comfortable using 4 lrm10s with only four tons of lrm ammo...

when DHS will come i can switch for them and take FF armor so i can get 1-5 tons more ammo...u know its not atlas D-DC witch 15 tons of ammo :x

[Athomahawk]

Well yea but you want at least 6-8 or so.

[Ragor]

For me the C4 is the superior Cat:
2x LRM 10
2x SSRM2
2x MPL
300XL

-> I can deliver a constant barrage of LRM support due to the faster recycle time of the LRM10s and can stand my ground against Jenner & Co.
-> My preferred role is in attack as close range support, keeping me at 200-250m to the enemy where I can use all my weapons at once. Good times.

[JudgeDeathCZ]

Athomahawk, on 03 November 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Well yea but you want at least 6-8 or so.

If you need more ammo means you waste it a lot

Ragor, on 03 November 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

For me the C4 is the superior Cat:
2x LRM 10
2x SSRM2
2x MPL
300XL

-> I can deliver a constant barrage of LRM support due to the faster recycle time of the LRM10s and can stand my ground against Jenner & Co.
-> My preferred role is in attack as close range support, keeping me at 200-250m to the enemy where I can use all my weapons at once. Good times.

I pugged with this build in closed beta.Was fun

Edited by JudgeDeathCZ, 03 November 2012 - 06:17 PM.

[Elyam]

I equip the C4 with 1 ERLLAS and 4 SRM4, AMS, heavy armor and sinks, 300 engine for a better speed. You can do it with SRM6 but I like the flight tracking pattern at range of the 4s better. It's not a heavy hitter, but when used with precision it does very well.

Tried it with chained streaks before as well, but I've been in BT/MW too long to have done it as more than a short experiment. It's just not in the spirit of the game (allowing pure crosshair targeting of direct-fire weapons is enough over the cliff). Looking forward to streak normalization and the addition of the bigger launchers.

Edited by Elyam, 03 November 2012 - 08:00 PM.

[Hex Pallett]

Dewil, on 03 November 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

I had fun with one of these for a while bak when C-bills was free.

2 Medium lasers
4 SRM6
Max armor
And a fast engine

In my case 2xMPL. A better brawler than a 6xSSRM2 A-1 if you ask me. At least you won't worry about running out ammo and becoming a giant battering ram.

Also for A-1, 2xLRM15 + 4xSSRM2 is my build. Gotta pay for the ammo, though.

[Devil Fox]

Helmstif, on 04 November 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Also for A-1, 2xLRM15 + 4xSSRM2 is my build. Gotta pay for the ammo, though.

Amen, the 7 tonnes of LRM ammo and the 3 tonnes of SSRM ammo make the build expensive to run but so so effective in crumpling charging mechs. As for C4 variant I typically ran 2xLRM10's and 2xLRM5's with 2 medium lasers, allowed me to chain fire down range with enough heat sinks and ammo to keep it up for quite awhile.

[SimonJames1975]

Athomahawk, on 03 November 2012 - 11:21 AM, said:

Try google search

Another fun build for the C4 is MPL + 4 x SSRM2, absolutely vicious

I tried this build, I achieved over 600 damage dealt in one match. I can deal 200-300 regularly too if my team don't totally fail. I've ran into an A1 Streak Cat before and fought a duel too, the A1 was just able to beat me. On another day it might of gone my way.

Edited by SimonJames1975, 04 November 2012 - 07:45 AM.

[Athomahawk]

JudgeDeathCZ, on 03 November 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

If you need more ammo means you waste it a lot

Or you use a lot? Better safe than out of ammo is my opinion.

p.s. I do use it all