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[The Herrick]

TKing is horrible, I can't understand why anyone would do it.

Never seen an incident of it myself.

[Weeble]

Is there currently NO punishment for a TK? I guess the rest of the team should just focus fire on the culprit. Pita to start 2 guys down but 8 vs 6 is better than what is basically 9 vs 6.

Friendly fire damage/kills should be a subtracted at the end of match. Since we're getting "paid" for damage we did to the enemy, maybe a TK'er should pay the full amount of repair to the team mate he shot? That should stop them pretty quickly

[Sadistic l]

Lorcan Lladd, on 03 November 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

And so unapologetic about it, can you imagine?

Well, more to the point, I've never witnessed a purposeful TK, ever - perhaps they're targeting specific 'Mechs or users...?

Not totally sure but I think they go after commandos,cannon name grognards, and spergs who like to rp as malevolent AI's.

[Jaxom08]

I had a team mate start shooting at me when i was trying to cap with him.....he was in a trial mech ( dragon ) so i figured he was just new and somehow did'nt realize I was a friendly. He shot me 2 more times and said "pew pew" at which point I took his arm with the heavy gun off of him......

No matter what game it is, you'll always have a few bad apples spoiling the bunch.

[Knightwyvern]

omgitsbees, on 03 November 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

Planetside 2 has a clever system in place that locks players guns and vehicles that they drive. They can't fire for a period of time after hitting other players on their side. You have to really go out of your way to do this though. Mechwarrior Online has no such system in place to combat Team Killers and that is why it is going to be an issue in MWO as the server population increases. Pirhana Games needs to find a way to punish TK's,

Very true about the grief system in PS2. However, my original point was that even with a anti-grief system in place, in any F2P game there will always be trolls who make new accounts simply to grief. It's a very difficult problem to combat.

[SkkyHigh]

Ya I had some little raven hit me from behind twice before I started to defend myself. BS man.

[Gigastrike]

I've never seen it happen. In fact, any time someone even got grazed by a friendly laser, there was an immediate apology.

Not sure why I'm not seeing more dual gausses shoot off a friendly light's leg right off the bat, though.

[Tickdoff Tank]

When I drop with my firends it is not unusual for the enemy base to be a TK wasteland. But it is all in fun and we never do it to a player that we do not know.

Besides, my teammates (meaning the group I usually play with) have "accidentally" shot me plenty of times, might as well return the favor

[StingerPryde]

Yea, I in my wang, and some fool last night took out my GR. He later claimed it was because he thought I was an AFKer.

Even if the person is AFK, why take the time to kill them your self, let the other time waste there ammo.

[Program 024]

In all of my Beta experience, both closed and open, I have only seen one deliberate team killer. I was on the opposite team of the Team killer, and as the match went on, this person was killing team mates. Our team decided to make a priority target for that Team killer, and then we destroyed him.

I haven't seen any TKers recently though

[Cpt Grunge]

I just hope when the game really gets going and millions are playing that it doesn't get worse. WoT is pretty huge and I see alot of them in that, I hope this doesn't go that way.

[Dagrum Darkforge]

never been outright killed but have been legged in a commando or main weapon taken off when riding a cent nothing better than someone cutting your combat effectiveness before you even reach the enemy may all tkers burn in the hellish assault of the rest of their team

[Shismar]

I was Tked today but it may have been an accident. My back was already stripped bare and there was a combat situation. I complained (reminding about friendly fire and stuff) but noone stepped up. Newbie, probably, not knowing about friendly fire and not even knowing how to work chat.

There have been a number of friendly hits recently, I may have to remind players that there is friendly fire at the beginning of the match again. Just as when previous beta waves arrived.

[Telthalion]

Weeble, on 03 November 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

Is there currently NO punishment for a TK? I guess the rest of the team should just focus fire on the culprit. Pita to start 2 guys down but 8 vs 6 is better than what is basically 9 vs 6.

Friendly fire damage/kills should be a subtracted at the end of match. Since we're getting "paid" for damage we did to the enemy, maybe a TK'er should pay the full amount of repair to the team mate he shot? That should stop them pretty quickly

Each TK subtracts 15k C-Bills and a roughly equivalent amount of EXP at the end of the match. Personally I think it should be based on the percent damage the player did to his teammate before the actual kill - with fairly minor penalties for an unlucky scratch across an exposed rear torso, and much more significant penalties if he single-handedly cores through a fully-armored backside for the kill shot.


I've never witnessed an intentional TK, but I've seen several accidental ones.

Edited by Telthalion, 03 November 2012 - 04:51 PM.

[Cpt Grunge]

Telthalion, on 03 November 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

Each TK subtracts 15k C-Bills and a roughly equivalent amount of EXP at the end of the match. Personally I think it should be based on the percent damage the player did to his teammate before the actual kill - with fairly minor penalties for an unlucky scratch across an exposed rear torso, and much more significant penalties if he single-handedly cores through a fully-armored backside for the kill shot.


I've never witnessed an intentional TK, but I've seen several accidental ones.

So your telling me that every time I accidently get hit or hit someone in a firefight that it cost them or me 15k?

Friendlies I mean not the enemy.

[Alois Hammer]

Weeble, on 03 November 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

Is there currently NO punishment for a TK?

-15k C-bills. Yeah, found out the hard way. Chain-firing dual ER PPCs at an enemy about 600 away when a teammate in a light, or heavily damaged, or both ran between me and the target. Major "Whoops, sorry..." moment to say the very least.

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Friendly fire damage/kills should be a subtracted at the end of match. Since we're getting "paid" for damage we did to the enemy, maybe a TK'er should pay the full amount of repair to the team mate he shot? That should stop them pretty quickly

Interesting idea, TK footing damage bill. At first glance, seems a reasonable deterrent to the fence-sitters without being too punishing on the accidents that will happen, and of course nothing will stop the devoted griefers but they're another critter entirely.

Not sure about the "damage done" part though, on the one hand I see the point and don't disagree, but then in context with all the complaints about economy and new players I'm wondering if it might not be a bit heavy on new players. They're the most likely to spray-n-pray (deliberately or just as part of the learning curve) so I'd expect them to get hit a bit harder.

That, and I wouldn't want to inflict my damage bills on anyone else- I'm used to eating lots of stray LRMs darting around enemies with TAG going. The enemy falls more often than I do, so I just shrug and keep going.

Cpt Grunge, on 03 November 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

So your telling me that every time I accidently get hit or hit someone in a firefight that it cost them or me 15k?

Friendlies I mean not the enemy.

Only kills, not damage. Kill a teammate you lose 15k, they kill you they lose 15k

Edited by Alois Hammer, 03 November 2012 - 05:06 PM.

[Cpt Grunge]

Alright, this is ******* me off. 2 out of my last 10 matches there was a friendly shooting people. Not me this time though.

[Beo Vulf]

I can see it now. ooooh what does this button do? Ops! Hides behind pilot chair so team thinks mech is empty. /sigh come out from behind that pilot chair we know your in there. Didn't you read the forum posts on button layout for your mech? Uh what posts? /headslap; OMG they let another cadet into a live mech. When will that changur cursed recruiter learn cadets go to the academy not front line units.

[MacKerris]

I have been TK'd and have accidentally TK'd a friend of mine. Unfortunately accidents do happen, especially in a furrball.

Something else that has happened to me twice now is where one of my teammates ends up having a red icon for a little bit. It's not where a enemy is behind the teammate. But the teammate is alone and I can target them just like they are the enemy. Of course I shot them on both occasions and got an earful for it.

[Tuku]

If I am shot at the beginning off a match I shoot back...plain and simple because the fire weapon group buttons are about as far away from the set weapon group controls as they can be ....If you cant turn around or walk off 2 steps before seeing how your 9 large lasers heat you up.....you deserve my 2 in your leg or chest.

I have only been team killed once and.....well I knew our gausscat was sniping and I ran right out in front with no back armor ....derp hehe he cant stop it once he looses it.

The second one someone was actively trying to hurt friendlies and well we just turned on him and went on with the match.