Converting The Mw:o Stats Back Into Table Top
#1
Posted 04 November 2012 - 12:58 PM
To explain briefly how this worked - I took the current stats from the game (minus the bugged small and pulse laser heat), and calculated the theoretical average damage and heat of each weapon over 10 seconds. There are two damage columns - one the directly ported damage, the other basically calculating the double armour out again (effectively halving all damage values).
#2
Posted 04 November 2012 - 01:42 PM
Great minds bro.
I added links to your threads at the end of mine, because your info is solid, and I LIKE YOU <3.
Oh and for anyone who is curious, a link to my thread is in my sig.
Edited by MCXL, 04 November 2012 - 01:43 PM.
#3
Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:16 PM
#4
Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:24 PM
Ammo was added for ballistics but energy weapons get nothing.
And now DHS come out and they want to again give us nothing.
The way I see it for Assaults and Heavys bringing anything other than Ballistic or Missile to the fight is counterproductive.
#5
Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:39 PM
Watchit, on 04 November 2012 - 03:16 PM, said:
Because if you halve the armor values across the board, you only need to do half the damage for the same relative effect (vs 100% armor)
#6
Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:15 PM
ArmyOfWon, on 04 November 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:
Because if you halve the armor values across the board, you only need to do half the damage for the same relative effect (vs 100% armor)
Ah I see now, it just wasn't very clear to me the way it was worded in the table.
#7
Posted 04 November 2012 - 08:02 PM
A table top 'turn' represents 10 seconds. Autocannons are rated based on the damage they inflict in one 10 second turn. So, an AC/20 is any autocannon that causes 20 points of damage in 10 seconds, whether that's one big bullet or many smaller ones, it all adds up to the same damage over time. A 'round' of ammo is measured as the amount used during that 10 seconds, so an AC/20 firing 2 bullets (10 damage each) in 10 seconds would count 2 bullets as one 'round' of ammo.
So, if we take the MWO rate of fire, what would the damage, heat, and ammo numbers need to be to produce the table top numbers over 10 seconds? That's what I've been looking at. The results were interesting in several areas. I haven't had the chance to put it into a nice chart yet, but intend to.
#8
Posted 04 November 2012 - 10:58 PM
MCXL, on 04 November 2012 - 01:42 PM, said:
No, I wasn't. I had done such a post a few weeks or months back, in the Closed Beta forums. But the stats have changed since then, and I didn't know how to get Excel charts into the forums then. (I still don't know, but I know how to make Excel Charts into PNGs and upload PNGs to hotlinkabable image providers).
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Maybe I need to explain it differently. (I see someone else already did it )
All our current armour values are doubled. So if we deal 2 points to armour, that would be equivalent to dealing 1 point of damage to non-doubled armour.
Edited by MustrumRidcully, 04 November 2012 - 11:00 PM.
#9
Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:10 AM
43,3 heat for an ER PPC. **** me sideways.
If there's still anyone out there who won't get what's wrong with this, chances are they never will.
#10
Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:25 AM
XTRMNTR2K, on 05 November 2012 - 04:10 AM, said:
43,3 heat for an ER PPC. **** me sideways.
If there's still anyone out there who won't get what's wrong with this, chances are they never will.
Just don't shoot whenever the weapon is off cooldown!
Manage your heat!
This isn't COD/Hawken.
Edited by MustrumRidcully, 05 November 2012 - 05:25 AM.
#13
Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:54 AM
MustrumRidcully, on 05 November 2012 - 05:48 AM, said:
Good point.
Though you may be asking too much... After all, there are still people who fall for the "Alt-F4 for external view" trick.
(And no, I've never actually tricked anyone - just observed others doing so.)
#14
Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:15 AM
When you look at DPS/ton and HPS/ton you will realize that weapons are completely off in cost and effect. My completely underarmed (by boardgame standards) Dragon with AC2, LRM10 and assorted MLasers will do 700+ damage a match, because the AC2 is almost an AC20 and the LRM10 DPS begs belief.
As a fan I want to have board game DPS transported to a sim, not board game damage/shot values. These DPS values are what the weight and heat requirements of the weapons are balanced about at their respective ranges.
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