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[Denno]

We had a drop a while ago where only 2 of our 8 man premade made it in-game on Forest and the rest of our spots werent filled either. The enemy team dropped successfully with 8.

On a wild and unsubstantiated hope, I immediately asked the enemy team to send in 4, then, if we kill them, to send the rest. To our pleasure and amazement they did so. It ended fairly predictably but that's beside the point.

Hats off to some decent doods. Names are as follows:

jhc660,
squishydale,
agtmadcat,
pruder,
judas1scariot,
kyndryn,
SS Bekker,
this isnt my hat i stole it, (yes, it appears that's his name)

Ps: Bekker did you play MCG and/or MW4? We knew a GB_Bekker along time ago. Cheers.
Pps: Most fun game of the evening, if a bit short .

Edited by Den McTard, 05 November 2012 - 09:29 PM.

[Tickdoff Tank]

Very nice to see more good sportsmanship. Seems to be sadly lacking in too many people these days.

On that note: I recently dropped in a match where I was the only person on my team. Against 8 others. I asked for solo combat, 1 on 1 untill I died. The first person accepted, I won, but was badly hurt. Asked for the next person to step up. He did. Then 4 mechs opened up on me with LRMs. Oh well, at least I went down fighting.

[Valder]

Awesome man =) Glad you weren't outright crushed.

[lsp]

Don't get this, there is no such thing as good sportsmanship in war. If the taliban said hey, U.S. Army you have waaay more guys then us today. Will you only send in 10 soldiers at a time, so we might have a chance? What do you think the response would be? Surrender or die.

[Lefty Lucy]

lsp, on 05 November 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:

Don't get this, there is no such thing as good sportsmanship in war. If the taliban said hey, U.S. Army you have waaay more guys then us today. Will you only send in 10 soldiers at a time, so we might have a chance? What do you think the response would be? Surrender or die.

But it's not war. It's a game. If the stakes were life and death, I'd agree, but the only thing up for grabs is imaginary space buxx. Most times if my opponents have a DC or just don't start with a full team I volunteer to sit out until they even things up.

[Crimson Chaos]

Kudos to those guys for being good sports. This community needs examples like that.

[lsp]

Lefty Lucy, on 05 November 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:

But it's not war. It's a game. If the stakes were life and death, I'd agree, but the only thing up for grabs is imaginary space buxx. Most times if my opponents have a DC or just don't start with a full team I volunteer to sit out until they even things up.

I don't look at video games about killing your enemy's, like it's a football game. It is life or death, just in a virtual space. Same reason people crying about me being in a streakcat doesn't bother me. If there's a clear way for me to have the advantage in a fight, I'm going to use it. Wether it's real life or a game.

Edited by lsp, 05 November 2012 - 10:57 PM.

[Gies]

lsp, on 05 November 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

I don't look at video games about killing your enemy's, like it's a football game. It is life or death, just in a virtual space. Same reason people crying about me being in a streakcat doesn't bother me. If there's a clear way for me to have the advantage in a fight, I'm going to use it. Wether it's real life or a game.

no offense but this kind of thinking Ladys and Gentlemen is why we have cheaters and OP wepons users like noobtubers or Carl gustav kiddies making our gaming life pretty miserable sometimes.

I for once couldnt do that because i would feel cheap and/or bad because its a game and nothing else and its ruining the fun for other people

Edited by Gies, 05 November 2012 - 11:27 PM.

[Dukarriope]

This one fellow who was supposed to drop with us ended up in a 8v1 game. They complied when he suggested they come at his streakapult one at a time. He survived 4 or 7 or them... or was it all of them?

That's sportsmanship there.

[Booran]

For the most part when I play a game with a war theme I use and abuse every tool, tactic and weakness I can find to win.
But sometimes you just break off and really just play around. OP is great, I like there displays of people acting like real people and not grinding mechawhores

[Ashstomper]

Very nice to hear about this. Hats off gentlemen.

[Lord Ikka]

Very nice.

[Elyam]

The other thing in play here are the chivalric and bushido codes that are an indelible part of the feudal BT universe, where personal challenges on the battlefield are not uncommon. The OP is right...the opposition's response on the field is seen as an act of honor in the Inner Sphere.

[IIIuminaughty]

Some nice ppl in game, unlike me, I would of been that asss that would of disregarded your request.
I'm not afraid to admit it.

[Darth JarJar]

We regularly shut down a mech of equal chassis class when someone disco's on launch, both in and out of league/tourney drops.

We also will offer the last mech a chance to surrender rather than incur a huge repair bill from being destroyed.

We have NEVER talked smack at the end of a bout, nor have I personally seen anyone outside of a certain group engage in such shenanigannery.

Guys, if you are part of a unit, at least TRY to comport yourself with some self-respect and dignity!

[Sprouticus]

lsp, on 05 November 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

I don't look at video games about killing your enemy's, like it's a football game. It is life or death, just in a virtual space. Same reason people crying about me being in a streakcat doesn't bother me. If there's a clear way for me to have the advantage in a fight, I'm going to use it. Wether it's real life or a game.

There are plenty of 'wargames' out there. Many of them are played as E-sports. Not E-War, E-Sports. And sports have rules, and sportsmanship, etc etc.

You can pretend you are in a real war all you like and it is no holds barred. But I would be willing to bet you were NEVER really in any kind of conflict, because if you were you would realize how absurd your statement really is.


Its a game, I live by 1 simple rule when playing....

dont be a ****

[Tickdoff Tank]

lsp, on 05 November 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

I don't look at video games about killing your enemy's, like it's a football game. It is life or death, just in a virtual space. Same reason people crying about me being in a streakcat doesn't bother me. If there's a clear way for me to have the advantage in a fight, I'm going to use it. Wether it's real life or a game.

I would not expect people to offer "honorable combat" if we were fighting for planets/territory with Community Warfare, that ups the stakes a bit. But while we are in OB, waiting for more stuff to be released and only fighting with 1 game mode and 4 maps.. I prefer to go the honorable route.

[Tannhauser Gate]

There many ways to play the game and also to win battles. BT is based heavily in lore which has honor and respect between enemies. You can have a stellar kd ratio but it doesnt mean you earn anyone's respect. If frags is all you care about then cool but other people play the game each for a different experience and winning means something different.

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Edited by Viterbi, 06 November 2012 - 05:13 PM.
Removed offensive language

[Peg Leg Pete]

StrataDragoon, on 06 November 2012 - 08:10 AM, said:

Some nice ppl in game, unlike me, I would of been that asss that would of disregarded your request.
I'm not afraid to admit it.

Of course you would do that. But then what member of the Rasalhague wouldn't use every dirty trick they could to win?

[Jakob Knight]

lsp, on 05 November 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:

Don't get this, there is no such thing as good sportsmanship in war. If the taliban said hey, U.S. Army you have waaay more guys then us today. Will you only send in 10 soldiers at a time, so we might have a chance? What do you think the response would be? Surrender or die.

Actually, you are incorrect. There is a thing in the US Armed Forces called the Code of Conduct. This isn't an optional thing, nor something that are 'guidelines', but as real as any law, and dictates how a Servicemember is expected to act at all times. Quite a few, if not all, militaries have such, and a breach of it is enough to bring the person before a Courts Martial. In short, certain conduct on the part of the combatants is considered criminal/dishonorable, and prosecuted if it is known.

The Taliban do not have this, and that is one of the core differences that set them as a group of armed criminals, and not a military organization. To the Taliban, all that matters is success, and any means used to that end are acceptable.

While you are correct in assuming that a real-world armed force will not ask politely for the enemy to please not use forces beyond what it has, there are two things that make this not relevant to MWO. First, this is a game of competition, not of war. If were one of war, then the devs would never have changed the drop system to make it 'fair', nor would they have done so many tweeks to make sure the battlefields were fairly equal to both sides.

Second, the players you fight are not your enemies. They are fellow gamers who share similar values and a desire for competitive gaming. You should not be treating them as enemies, but as opponents in a game that you play as well.

Battletech/MWO simulates war as a means of competition. However, war is not a game.

Edited by Jakob Knight, 06 November 2012 - 10:06 AM.