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[Shamoo]

yashmack, on 06 November 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

I have been running an LRM boat for the past few days
I have rained down plenty of death on those that dont know how to play...
those that did know how to play avoided getting target locks and moved in to kill me
Ive been taken out several times as well as the other LRM boat on the team by a group that communicates and plays well together
They arent OP, you just have to work

You missed the point of the thread LRM + Atemis = OP without a counter. Just suggesting maybe you try it and be the judge. The new system + flight path has made LRM's the definite easy button without a viable counter.

Edited by Shamoo, 06 November 2012 - 07:24 PM.

[Icebound]

Every patch seems worse than the last, I think this game is going to die off within a year or two at the most.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

Tuku, on 06 November 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

It will be hilarious when ECM comes out....most likely in conjunction with some sort of LRM nerf and all those who run only LRM boats will actually have to learn how to play the game and not just scream at spotters to press R when they fight something.

Icebound, on 06 November 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

Every patch seems worse than the last, I think this game is going to die off within a year or two at the most.

I wouldn't say the game is getting worse, Hit Detection this patch has definately improved, while the mech lab is now far less buggy. The game mechanics are more important than weapon balance, but yes -- a weapon balance fix once we get the rest of the equipment (I'm looking at you actual DHS....).

But I can't imagine how much frustration new players are having in regards to weapon balance, its REALLY bad right now, sadly.

Edited by mwhighlander, 06 November 2012 - 07:29 PM.

[197mmCannon]

So I've done a few pugs and so far I don't see what the fuss is about.

Maybe no one I went against had artemis but I dealt with LRMs the exact way I always have and did fine.

And then I fitted artemis to my atlas to see what I could do.

I still missed when mechs ducked behind cover and lock was lost. And now that the arc is higher it actually takes the missiles longer to get there which means lock has to be held longer.

I also got to shoot at a catapult that thought it would be fun to wander around the open water area in river city and I rained down on him. He was about 300 meters away and I actually watched as a couple volleys completely missed him. They went high up in the air (even though they could have flew straight at him) and came straight down and because he was moving the entire volley hit the water behind him. This didn't always happen and I blew him up good but atleast twice, two full double LRM20 volleys completely missed.

Non artemis missiles would have flown straight at him.

Artemis also cost me 1.5 mill cbills and tonnage to equip.

I know I need some more games before I make judgement but my initial impression is that you guys are going way overboard with the doomsaying.

Edited by Daemian, 06 November 2012 - 07:50 PM.

[197mmCannon]

I also paid 90,000 credits to replace my ammo...

So maybe they are balancing in other ways.

[Stoindrae]

KingDerp, on 06 November 2012 - 07:15 PM, said:

It's"Tonya" not "Tanya".

To succeed: lie, cheat, steal, that what is taught today.

I saw that error before I posted .. but forgot to fix it ... /shame..

Thanks for the reminder!

[I Just Ate Your Grapes Bro]

DraigUK, on 06 November 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

This applies when you have Artimis fitted. They are expensive to fit and run, but you generally still make a profit of about 100k a game.

No... No they aren't, they are now what, less than half the price of double heat sinks? which are now made worthless considering their heat dissipation was nerfed but their crit space kept the same... And expensive to run? Almost everyone in an LRM boat just leaves off auto rearm/repair and has 0 running cost anyway, so wrong again...

[RedHairDave]

Shamoo, on 06 November 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

Perfect example

how is that different than before, that is a normal number of damage considering how no one else did anything. i have several sereenshots just like that, some over 2k. that is normal for what happened there.

[Shamoo]

RedHairDave, on 07 November 2012 - 06:15 AM, said:

how is that different than before, that is a normal number of damage considering how no one else did anything. i have several sereenshots just like that, some over 2k. that is normal for what happened there.

Easy, that match ended in under 5 minutes and it wasn't due to the others not trying it was they couldn't out damage 3x LRM 15's. But instead of taking anyone's word for it try fitting an Artemis Missile boat and team up with a couple other outfitted the same, and you tell me how fast the match ends..

P.S. Also note there is a damage bug affecting certain weapon platforms so they don't always report full damage, keep that in mind when you try and pick things apart on the premise of others participation.

Edited by Shamoo, 07 November 2012 - 06:45 AM.