31 replies to this topic

[Hexcaliber]

Piranha, all you are doing deleting and locking new threads about the current patch and state of the game is alienating a section of your player base, Jesus you guys really are amateurs.

Burying your heads in the sand wont change or fix the game one iota, and gamers will go elsewhere to vent their frustrations, turning your name into mud in the process. This is your mess, man up, and deal with the complaints like adults instead of trying to hide them.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

The mods are not game designers. They do not have creative power. But you are right that they are not helping by locking all the threads where we are trying to discuss game issues.

I almost forgot... before this gets locked...
*Scribbles "Drain was here"*

[Sandpit]

Ever stop to think that most complaints are duplicate threads about things like DHS, Economy, LRMs OP, etc. and this is why they're getting locked? As in you're not supposed to post 90 million threads on the same subject instead of actually posting them in already existing threads?

[Like a Sir]

IN B4 lock!

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Sandpit, on 06 November 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

Ever stop to think that most complaints are duplicate threads about things like DHS, Economy, LRMs OP, etc. and this is why they're getting locked? As in you're not supposed to post 90 million threads on the same subject instead of actually posting them in already existing threads?

You are right when it comes to some of them... but not all.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Omar Little, on 06 November 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

bad game is bad, LOL @ you for paying for it HAHA

It's not a "bad" game, it's just unfinished and has issues. I'm sticking it out and haven't admitted "I regret my purchase" defeat yet.

[Sandpit]

Omar Little, on 06 November 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

bad game is bad, LOL @ you for paying for it HAHA

between posts like this derailing threads and multiple threads the MODs honestly (in my opinion) are just trying to keep the forums cleaned up. Post your thought in an existing thread and I'm willing to bet they don't get locked

[Divine Madcat]

Sadly, its called damage control. As a mod on another *large* forum, i would like to apologize or the mods here being overzealous. Seriously, we aren't all that bad...

[Leetskeet]

Thread lock incoming

It will be ironic and delicious

[sokitumi]

Sandpit, on 06 November 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

Ever stop to think that most complaints are duplicate threads about things like DHS, Economy, LRMs OP, etc. and this is why they're getting locked? As in you're not supposed to post 90 million threads on the same subject instead of actually posting them in already existing threads?

Ever notice 1,000's users 20 page threads diverged into crazyland sideshow's? New threads on old topics are totally necessary.

[Rugarou]

Yoou guys realize there is a specific section of the forums to discuss the patch stuff. Maybe try posting there instead of General discussion. Just a thought.

[Sandpit]

sokitumi, on 06 November 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

Ever notice 1,000's users 20 page threads diverged into crazyland sideshow's? New threads on old topics are totally necessary.

Not if you kept the old topics alive by posting there instead of seeing 20 posts on the front page about the exact same subject because everyone feels their ideas are important enough to have their own thread

[Mawai]

Yes ... some of them are probably repeat threads ... BUT there are a lot of people who care about this game and are appalled at the number of bugs, game balance issues, design and business decisions taken by PGI and IGP. People would like to see the issues fixed and they would like PGI to acknowledge those issues ... so I don't find it surprising that there are a lot of threads after a patch.

I think what surprises me most is the apparent lack of significant internal testing. The DHS issue wasn't found until the players noticed it after it was patched to their live servers. How the HDR issue got in to the release I don't know .. and for me at least it isn't fixed ... glowing mechs still black out my entire display ... which is ridiculous ... and it doesn't look good either. In the current patch there are significant doubts about how balanced the Artemis system is ... the amount of heat now generated by pulse lasers ... and the on-going questions of heat balance for PPCs and some of the other large energy weapons.

In addition there are significant issues with the economy (especially for the non-premium players) which they said would be patched for open beta but I can't see any sign of it ... matches have a lot of lights and mediums because they are the only ones that can be run with a decent rate of income.

[Sandpit]

Mawai, on 06 November 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

Yes ... some of them are probably repeat threads ... BUT there are a lot of people who care about this game and are appalled at the number of bugs, game balance issues, design and business decisions taken by PGI and IGP. People would like to see the issues fixed and they would like PGI to acknowledge those issues ... so I don't find it surprising that there are a lot of threads after a patch.

I think what surprises me most is the apparent lack of significant internal testing. The DHS issue wasn't found until the players noticed it after it was patched to their live servers. How the HDR issue got in to the release I don't know .. and for me at least it isn't fixed ... glowing mechs still black out my entire display ... which is ridiculous ... and it doesn't look good either. In the current patch there are significant doubts about how balanced the Artemis system is ... the amount of heat now generated by pulse lasers ... and the on-going questions of heat balance for PPCs and some of the other large energy weapons.

In addition there are significant issues with the economy (especially for the non-premium players) which they said would be patched for open beta but I can't see any sign of it ... matches have a lot of lights and mediums because they are the only ones that can be run with a decent rate of income.

The point is this
New player comes to forums
New player wants to find info on something
New player actually searches
New players finds 56 posts on the subject they are wanting to learn about

Scenario 2
New player joins forums
New player sees 20 posts on the exact same subject
New player gets confused on where to look for info

Scenario 3
I come on to forums.
I see 12 posts on exact same subject on front page
I have to look through 8 pages just to get to something other than a post regarding LRMs, DHS, Gauss, or MM

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

100% truth Mawai but I should add that they knew about DHS before it was even put in. They planned to just fix them later. But it does sadden me that they launched to Open Beta with:
1) Bad MM
2) Broken economy(It rewards you for doing nothing!)
3) Broken DHS

[James The Fox Dixon]

Sandpit, on 06 November 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

The point is this
New player comes to forums
New player wants to find info on something
New player actually searches
New players finds 56 posts on the subject they are wanting to learn about

Scenario 2
New player joins forums
New player sees 20 posts on the exact same subject
New player gets confused on where to look for info

Scenario 3
I come on to forums.
I see 12 posts on exact same subject on front page
I have to look through 8 pages just to get to something other than a post regarding LRMs, DHS, Gauss, or MM

You make it seem like that search actually works on the forums. It doesn't. The best way to find something on the forums is to use Google. LOL

[Sandpit]

James The Fox Dixon, on 06 November 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

You make it seem like that search actually works on the forums. It doesn't. The best way to find something on the forums is to use Google. LOL

without 20 milliion posts and properly titled posts (instead of using titles as sensationalism) it would work
*shrugs* them's the rules of the forum regardless. don't follow them threads get locked and deleted.

[Windies]

Thing is that pretty much everything that has happened, forum user's warned about months in advance. I don't really feel bad for PGI because they had the forewarnings. They just chose to ignore them and truck on. A lot of the threads they lock and delete deserve it, however quite a few are legitimate discussions or criticisms that the devs need to read, not throw out. It's their choice though, it just makes them look worse in the eye's of the consumer and the forum user.

[Tennex]

this game is doomed to fail. they do not listen to criticism, they do not improve. they are in denial

[Sandpit]

Windies, on 06 November 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

Thing is that pretty much everything that has happened, forum user's warned about months in advance. I don't really feel bad for PGI because they had the forewarnings. They just chose to ignore them and truck on. A lot of the threads they lock and delete deserve it, however quite a few are legitimate discussions or criticisms that the devs need to read, not throw out. It's their choice though, it just makes them look worse in the eye's of the consumer and the forum user.

EVERY (not some, not most, not a few but EVERY) legit thread I've seen locked was a thread that should have either been posted in patch feedback section OR a duplicate thread that should have been put in another existing thread. There are no martyrs here

Tennex, on 06 November 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

this game is doomed to fail. they do not listen to criticism, they do not improve. they are in denial

and posts like this offer nothing other than more nonsense posted on the forums which just clutters up pertinent info