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[Lyoto Machida]

DraigUK, on 07 November 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

Now now, don't be bitter. Or post some LRM higher damage shots to show how easy it is. Please don't make me make a "sniper" Gauss Cat, or "Brawler" Streak Cat or SRM Awesome....because all of it can be done in any build. Not just LRM. Or at least I can. Can you?

Ironic, that you mention bitter because someone in my unit said the same thing. Like I said, as soon as I get my D-DC back, I will try to break 1500.

So you're saying you can break 1500 in a Gausscat? I'd like to see it, personally.

Also, hitting 1500 damage is sort of inefficient...you don't need to do that much damage to net 4 or 5 kills. That just means you're not being very judicious with your shots (though I can't blame you if you're doing it with LRMs). In theory, you could kill 4 or 5 Atlases with 850 damage if my math is right...you'd have to be pretty damn accurate though.

[BlackSquirrel]

7 kills is actually kind of impressive... Because well either his entire team was dead, and sleeping or he had damn good timing to get said kills...

No just imagine if you could lock multiple targets, and fire separate LRM batteries at them...

[DraigUK]

Vassago Rain, on 07 November 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

Stop lying.

Try it and see instead of calling me a liar. Or do you want yet more Screens to show you how it's done? I know your bad, but being bad and showing yourself up on a forum as being a bad is one step too far even for you. Without paying I make 200-250k on average, just to give you a hint.

And for a further hint I posted a screenshot earlier that shows my winnings - if I'm not paying and getting over 250k how much profit will that make? That's right genius - over 250k - NOT 100k, because that would mean I was paying about 150k on rearms....which would leave about....


.....Oh never mind you do the math, try and use your toes as well when you get stuck.

Edited by DraigUK, 07 November 2012 - 05:28 PM.

[Lyoto Machida]

BlackSquirrel, on 07 November 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

No just imagine if you could lock multiple targets, and fire separate LRM batteries at them...

I just did...

[DraigUK]

Lyoto Machida, on 07 November 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

Ironic, that you mention bitter because someone in my unit said the same thing. Like I said, as soon as I get my D-DC back, I will try to break 1500.

So you're saying you can break 1500 in a Gausscat? I'd like to see it, personally.

Also, hitting 1500 damage is sort of inefficient...you don't need to do that much damage to net 4 or 5 kills. That just means you're not being very judicious with your shots (though I can't blame you if you're doing it with LRMs). In theory, you could kill 4 or 5 Atlases with 850 damage if my math is right...you'd have to be pretty damn accurate though.

Please do so before posting seemingly bitter posts? Same goes for Vassago, if you don't believe me do it yourself instead of calling me a liar. Otherwise you make me waste my time getting screenshots just to prove how stupid you really are.

P.S. I hate Gauss cats but have several screens of me doing over 1k in a straight up brawler. I really do hate sniping, not my thing, but I expect I could make one and leg a lot of people to get 1500+. Although just to be clear I have never said I could do it, that was made up in your head. You know, with your "friend", the one that talks to you a lot?

You don't have that option in LRM.

Edited by DraigUK, 07 November 2012 - 05:23 PM.

[Sevaradan]

Vassago Rain, on 07 November 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

Stop lying.

completly possible with premium, its about what im making per match currently.

[Lyoto Machida]

DraigUK, on 07 November 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

Please do so before posting seemingly bitter posts? Same goes for Vassago, if you don't believe me do it yourself instead of calling me a liar. Otherwise you make me waste my time getting screenshots just to prove how stupid you really are.

P.S. I hate Gauss cats but have several screens of me doing over 1k in a straight up brawler. I really do hate sniping, not my thing, but i expect I could make one and leg a lot of people to get 1500+.

You don't have that option in LRM.

I never said you were a liar...just that it's a whole lot easier to do it with LRMs. If you can't acknowledge that it's easier to break 1k with LRMS right now over any other method, then I don't know what to tell you. Either way, it's getting patched tomorrow at 10am so it doesn't really matter (unless they screw up the patch).

[DraigUK]

Lyoto Machida, on 07 November 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:

I never said you were a liar...just that it's a whole lot easier to do it with LRMs. If you can't acknowledge that it's easier to break 1k with LRMS right now over any other method, then I don't know what to tell you. Either way, it's getting patched tomorrow at 10am so it doesn't really matter (unless they screw up the patch).

Of course its easier to break 1k with LRM - it always has been. I broke 1600 pre Artimis. But I can also break 1k in a brawler. And has as been shown, in this very thread, I'm not the best out there. Above average, I'd like to think so, but not "the best" by any means.

However breaking 1600 and breaking 6 kills is NOT so easy in a LRM or anything else. Unless, of course, it's you. Still await screenshots from you.

PLEASE direct me to anything I've said that even remotely alludes to breaking "1500 in a Gauss is easy" or breaking 1500 in anything else is easy, or kindly tell the voice in your head to take break?

Edited by DraigUK, 07 November 2012 - 05:36 PM.

[Scratx]

High damage isn't that useful a stat anyway because the only damage that really counts is the damage to the section that resulted in the enemy mech dying.

[DraigUK]

BlackSquirrel, on 07 November 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

7 kills is actually kind of impressive... Because well either his entire team was dead, and sleeping or he had damn good timing to get said kills...

No just imagine if you could lock multiple targets, and fire separate LRM batteries at them...

Why, thank you Blacksquirrel, you are a gent! A rare find here!

7 kills AND 1 assist (just to correct you. My teammate (and guild mate) who (GENUINELY) lucked out that kill of his (as I had got it down to 20%) stopped me getting yet another 8-0.

Of course he (my guildmate) would say I lucked out on him getting 7 assists and me getting the 7 kills instead...but that would be utter BS and never even be close to describing the massive difference in our skill levels. Because he is a n00b and I'm l33t!! 4tW1n!



(and sometimes I'm drunk and come on the forums and get a telling off from my leader in a day or two for doing so and being a general *** about it, but that will never happen this time, the print is too small for him too read and I'm right anyway, nah nah nah nah nah)

Edited by DraigUK, 07 November 2012 - 06:06 PM.

[DraigUK]

Scratx, on 07 November 2012 - 05:43 PM, said:

High damage isn't that useful a stat anyway because the only damage that really counts is the damage to the section that resulted in the enemy mech dying.

Yeah I agree. High damage on enemies is pretty useless, far better to go for kills instead. I'd rather do 200 damage and get 4 kills than 800 damage and get 8 kills. Or something like that anyway. Because doing so much damage to your enemies is inefficient and just downright...bad.

(Unless I'm using LRM. Because you have no control with LRM over what sections of the mech you do damage to - whoops!)

[Vila deVere]

Lowridah, on 07 November 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

this thread is just showing the Dev's what needs fixing lol

Yup. Fortunately they seem to know....

[Stonefalcon]

DraigUK, on 07 November 2012 - 04:57 PM, said:

You need to rethink your build.

Before the LRM buff there wasn't a mech my Atlas couldn't kill, it was a slow and steady annihilator, just like how I like to play.

[Lyoto Machida]

I originally posted this:

Lyoto Machida, on 07 November 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

Wait...did you just say "skilled" and "noteworthy achievements" in regards to LRM damage just now? Nothing against LRM boat pilots but brawling/sniping take more skill than LRM support.

As soon as I get my D-DC back, I'll try to break 1500, just to see how easy it is right now.

That's where the 1500 damage number came from.

And you replied with:

DraigUK, on 07 November 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

Now now, don't be bitter. Or post some LRM higher damage shots to show how easy it is. Please don't make me make a "sniper" Gauss Cat, or "Brawler" Streak Cat or SRM Awesome....because all of it can be done in any build. Not just LRM. Or at least I can. Can you?

Lyoto Machida, on 07 November 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

Ironic, that you mention bitter because someone in my unit said the same thing. Like I said, as soon as I get my D-DC back, I will try to break 1500.

So you're saying you can break 1500 in a Gausscat? I'd like to see it, personally.

Then you started contradicting yourself by saying you never said you could do it when you clearly did. Compare your quote below with the one above at 5:01pm:

DraigUK, on 07 November 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

Please do so before posting seemingly bitter posts? Same goes for Vassago, if you don't believe me do it yourself instead of calling me a liar. Otherwise you make me waste my time getting screenshots just to prove how stupid you really are.

P.S. I hate Gauss cats but have several screens of me doing over 1k in a straight up brawler. I really do hate sniping, not my thing, but I expect I could make one and leg a lot of people to get 1500+. Although just to be clear I have never said I could do it, that was made up in your head. You know, with your "friend", the one that talks to you a lot?

You don't have that option in LRM.

But wait...you just said a few posts back that you could do it in any number of builds. In fact, that post is the first one of yours that I quoted.

I really don't know why I need to do all this...it's all here in this thread. Good thing I keep quoting you because you keep going back and editing your posts.

Lyoto Machida, on 07 November 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:

I never said you were a liar...just that it's a whole lot easier to do it with LRMs. If you can't acknowledge that it's easier to break 1k with LRMS right now over any other method, then I don't know what to tell you. Either way, it's getting patched tomorrow at 10am so it doesn't really matter (unless they screw up the patch).

DraigUK, on 07 November 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

Of course its easier to break 1k with LRM - it always has been. I broke 1600 pre Artimis. But I can also break 1k in a brawler. And has as been shown, in this very thread, I'm not the best out there. Above average, I'd like to think so, but not "the best" by any means.

However breaking 1600 and breaking 6 kills is NOT so easy in a LRM or anything else. Unless, of course, it's you. Still await screenshots from you.

PLEASE direct me to anything I've said that even remotely alludes to breaking "1500 in a Gauss is easy" or breaking 1500 in anything else is easy, or kindly tell the voice in your head to take break?

I never said 1500 in a Gauss was easy...could be that YOU have voices in your head, not me. Haven't tried running LRMs yet and probably won't get much of a chance tonight, as they're patching it 10am tomorrow. Gonna go watch The Dark Knight Rises in IMAX tonight, since it's the last showing and I haven't seen it yet. Probably will only get a couple hours to use an LRM boat before the hotfix tomorrow. Maybe I'll get lucky in that time and break 1500...

[omnilicious]

Did this with no LRM launcher




It's not just about the mech. Skill helps!

Edited by omnilicious, 08 November 2012 - 07:01 PM.

[Lyoto Machida]

omnilicious, on 08 November 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

Did this with no LRM launcher




It's not just about the mech. Skill helps!

So what exactly where you using if you didn't have a launcher???

[Rathe]

(not mine, this is another cRedditor's) damage isn't fantastic, but those kills:

[DraigUK]

Lyoto Machida, on 09 November 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

So what exactly where you using if you didn't have a launcher???

He's saying he was brawling. (Although that shot is from a while back in closed beta)

[Wildcat]

DraigUK, on 07 November 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

I usually pay for mine and make about 100k profit.

on a good Match, I get around 300K Reward and anywhere from 60K - 170K Repairs and Reloads

So yes to get 100K+ Profit is not uncommon

BlackSquirrel, on 07 November 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

7 kills is actually kind of impressive... Because well either his entire team was dead, and sleeping or he had damn good timing to get said kills...

No just imagine if you could lock multiple targets, and fire separate LRM batteries at them...

7 Kills is quite easy to get with LRMs... ive claimed 7 Kills my self, most of the time the Targets have no Armour and or are very low on HP and so LRMs tend to Claim Kills on enemy Mechs that other Teammates have worn down

Some Kills will be done with my Large Lasers, but for the most part LRMs are good for scoring Kills on Wounded Mechs

Edited by Wildcat, 09 November 2012 - 12:50 PM.

[Muurtana]

Stalker STK-5M, 4x LRM15 /w artemis, 17 tons of ammo

Edited by Muurtana, 26 December 2012 - 12:38 PM.