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[Phelan Kell 83]

So anyways I got tired of seeing all these cowards on MWO hiding behind mountains and spamming LRM salvo after LRM salvo and spamming Gauss Slugs from their Gauss Cats and even Atlas battlemechs firing LRMs at Commandos and Ravens, I mean for crying out loud even the Hunchback and Atlas pilots in this game were spamming LRM salvos and Gauss Slugs and hiding like cowards. Even worse the only time the Atlas and Hunchback pilots and all the other pilots would actually attack and engage the enemy and come outta hiding was if there was 1 enemy left and they would gang up on that last enemy 5 on 1 sometimes 6 on 1,

The opposing teams kept making excuses as to why they were fighting like cowards, they would say things like, "We don't fight this way cuz we fail as warriors, we fight this way cuz it is smart strategy, it is good tactics, and we swear you are wrong about us doing it cuz we cant pilot, and we cant aim, and and we can't fight, and we couldn't hit the broad side of a dropship."

So anyways last nite I decided to prove that my theory was correct, that their claims of strategy and tactics were a bunch of bs, and that they were in fact cowards, and that they did suck as mechwarriors, and I decided to prove that the reasons why they spam LRM salvo while hiding behind mountains, and the reason they gang up on mechs 5 ojn 1, is because they have no skill as warriors and it is the only way they can win a battle.

Last nite I went into a battle with a Commando, with a SRM 4 and a SRM 6 and a total of 30 shots, and I only had a armor factor of 161. Before the battle began, I made a challenge to the opposing team and heres what I said,"Opposing team, I will take each one of you on 1 on 1 in the center of this map and none of my teamates will interfere, If I manage to destroy half your teamates in 1 on 1 combat, if I destroy 4 of your mechs in 1 on 1 combat, the remaining 4 of you have to leave the game and we win the battle, if i fail to take out half your team, if I fail to destroy 4 of your teamates in 1 on 1 combat and your team destroys my Commando, then the rest of my teamates, all 7 of them, we will leave this match and you will automatically win the fight, do you accept my challenge?"

They accepted my challenge, and I fought 4 of their mechs, one after another, in 1 on 1 combat. I destroyed a Raven first, then I destroyed a Laser Hunchback, then I destroyed a Awesome, and finally I destroyed a Yen Lo Wang. surprisingly they honored the rules of the challenge and the remaining 4 of them disconnected and my team won the match. I had proved my point and I proved that yes, the reason why 90% of the MWO community fights the way that they do, the real reason why they fight the way that they do, is because they suck as mechwarriors and they cant beat me or any other seasoned mechwarrior in a 1 on 1 fight.

Seriously, I've been playing mechwarrior games since mechwarrior off the SNES, I've been playing paper battletech tournaments since before the Clans even existed, I remember playing in paper battletech tournaments back when the 4th succession war hadn't even ended, I've been playing Mechwarrior/Battletech games for not quite 24 years, I know what a real Mechwarrior/Battletech game is, and this isn't a true mechwarrior game. They need to change the name of this game from MWO/Mechwarrior online to MCO/MechCowards Online.

Seriously, the only cowardly fighting tactic I haven't seen in this game so far is players going kamikaze with their mechs and self destructing next to severely damaged enemy mechs, but I am sure that once Piranha implements ejecting/self destruct in this game, players in MWO, excuse me, sorry, MCO, will stat doing that too! How much you wanna bet when players in MCO start ejecting and self destructing their mechs, how much you wanna bet those players say the exact same ********, "Its good tactics! It's good strategy! We don't do it cuz we fail as mechwarriors we swear!".

Anyways guys I am sorry but MWO isn't a true mechwarrior game, I am going to go play mechwarrior Tactics. Mechwarrior Tactics is a actual true mechwarrior game. I have talked to all my old school battletech gaming buddies and they agree that MWO is not a real battletech/mechwarrior game and that we are not going to waste our money and time on MWO.

If any MWO moderators read this and you decide to ban my account I want you to know that you will be doing me a huge favor and I will be grateful. As a 24 year battletech/mechwarrior player I do not wish to be affiliated with MWO. I have spent thousands and thousands of dollars on different games in the battletech/mechwarrior franchise these past 24 years, I know a actual battletech/mechwarrior game when I see one, and I don't want to spend a single penny on MWO. My money is going towards Mechwarrior Tactics.

You can call an apple and orange as much as you want. You can wan't the apple to be an orange and you can refuse to accept the fact that an apple is an apple. Guess what guys? It is still an apple!

You can want MWO to be a mechwarrior game. You can call MWO a mechwarrior game. You can refuse to accept the fact that MWO isn't a true mechwarrior game. Guess what guys? IT'S STILL NOT A MECHWARRIOR GAME!

As a 24 year mechwarrior/battletech player I know that MWO isn't a true mechwarrior game. My best freind who has been playing mechwarrior/battletech for 25 years knows that MWO isn't a real mechwarrior game. I am really sorry guys but MWO is not a true mechwarrior game!

Anyways you guys can feel free to say whatever you want in response to this post. I don't really care if any of you disagree with me and my old school battletech buddies feelings on MWO. I got a Mechwarrior Tactics beta key now, so i won't be wasting my time on MWO anymore,. If any of you want to face some real Mechwarriors come face us on mechwariors tactics. See you guys.

Edited by Phelan Kell 83, 07 November 2012 - 08:24 AM.

[Bagheera]

Maybe instead of telling us what you think makes for cowardly strategy, you should spend some of that text wall comparing it to what you think makes for good combat.

Also, canon name, lol.

[Viper69]

I think we need more of these long winded rants. If only forums functioned like twitter.

[Tice Daurus]

I grew older just reading this.

[DerelictTomcat]

Seeing as its his first post and its a full page I didnt bother reading it.

True mechwarriors play the game win or lose. Keep throwing missles at me until I figure out how to defeat them or counter them I'll have fun dying.

~S~

[jag rip]

Why didnt he post this into the Beta MWT Forums in the first place? As he doesn't, we dont care either..

[Rushin Roulette]

Bagheera, on 07 November 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

Also, canon name, lol.

Failing Kell 86 is canon?

Maybe you could use that wall of text and use it to shield you from LRMs out in the field?

[JudgeDeathCZ]

lagshielded commando too stronk

[Cartman726]

Phelan Kell 83, on 07 November 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

So anyways I got tired of seeing all these cowards on MWO hiding behind mountains and spamming LRM salvo after LRM salvo and spamming Gauss Slugs from their Gauss Cats and even Atlas battlemechs firing LRMs at Commandos and Ravens, I mean for crying out loud even the Hunchback and Atlas pilots in this game were spamming LRM salvos and Gauss Slugs and hiding like cowards. Even worse the only time the Atlas and Hunchback pilots and all the other pilots would actually attack and engage the enemy and come outta hiding was if there was 1 enemy left and they would gang up on that last enemy 5 on 1 sometimes 6 on 1,

The opposing teams kept making excuses as to why they were fighting like cowards, they would say things like, "We don't fight this way cuz we fail as warriors, we fight this way cuz it is smart strategy, it is good tactics, and we swear you are wrong about us doing it cuz we cant pilot, and we cant aim, and and we can't fight, and we couldn't hit the broad side of a dropship."

So anyways last nite I decided to prove that my theory was correct, that their claims of strategy and tactics were a bunch of bs, and that they were in fact cowards, and that they did suck as mechwarriors, and I decided to prove that the reasons why they spam LRM salvo while hiding behind mountains, and the reason they gang up on mechs 5 ojn 1, is because they have no skill as warriors and it is the only way they can win a battle.

Last nite I went into a battle with a Commando, with a SRM 4 and a SRM 6 and a total of 30 shots, and I only had a armor factor of 161. Before the battle began, I made a challenge to the opposing team and heres what I said,"Opposing team, I will take each one of you on 1 on 1 in the center of this map and none of my teamates will interfere, If I manage to destroy half your teamates in 1 on 1 combat, if I destroy 4 of your mechs in 1 on 1 combat, the remaining 4 of you have to leave the game and we win the battle, if i fail to take out half your team, if I fail to destroy 4 of your teamates in 1 on 1 combat and your team destroys my Commando, then the rest of my teamates, all 7 of them, we will leave this match and you will automatically win the fight, do you accept my challenge?"

They accepted my challenge, and I fought 4 of their mechs, one after another, in 1 on 1 combat. I destroyed a Raven first, then I destroyed a Laser Hunchback, then I destroyed a Awesome, and finally I destroyed a Yen Lo Wang. surprisingly they honored the rules of the challenge and the remaining 4 of them disconnected and my team won the match. I had proved my point and I proved that yes, the reason why 90% of the MWO community fights the way that they do, the real reason why they fight the way that they do, is because they suck as mechwarriors and they cant beat me or any other seasoned mechwarrior in a 1 on 1 fight.

Seriously, I've been playing mechwarrior games since mechwarrior off the SNES, I've been playing paper battletech tournaments since before the Clans even existed, I remember playing in paper battletech tournaments back when the 4th succession war hadn't even ended, I've been playing Mechwarrior/Battletech games for not quite 24 years, I know what a real Mechwarrior/Battletech game is, and this isn't a true mechwarrior game. They need to change the name of this game from MWO/Mechwarrior online to MCO/MechCowards Online.

Seriously, the only cowardly fighting tactic I haven't seen in this game so far is players going kamikaze with their mechs and self destructing next to severely damaged enemy mechs, but I am sure that once Piranha implements ejecting/self destruct in this game, players in MWO, excuse me, sorry, MCO, will stat doing that too! How much you wanna bet when players in MCO start ejecting and self destructing their mechs, how much you wanna bet those players say the exact same ********, "Its good tactics! It's good strategy! We don't do it cuz we fail as mechwarriors we swear!".

Anyways guys I am sorry but MWO isn't a true mechwarrior game, I am going to go play mechwarrior Tactics. Mechwarrior Tactics is a actual true mechwarrior game. I have talked to all my old school battletech gaming buddies and they agree that MWO is not a real battletech/mechwarrior game and that we are not going to waste our money and time on MWO.

If any MWO moderators read this and you decide to ban my account I want you to know that you will be doing me a huge favor and I will be grateful. As a 24 year battletech/mechwarrior player I do not wish to be affiliated with MWO. I have spent thousands and thousands of dollars on different games in the battletech/mechwarrior franchise these past 24 years, I know a actual battletech/mechwarrior game when I see one, and I don't want to spend a single penny on MWO. My money is going towards Mechwarrior Tactics.

You can call an apple and orange as much as you want. You can wan't the apple to be an orange and you can refuse to accept the fact that an apple is an apple. Guess what guys? It is still an apple!

You can want MWO to be a mechwarrior game. You can call MWO a mechwarrior game. You can refuse to accept the fact that MWO isn't a true mechwarrior game. Guess what guys? IT'S STILL NOT A MECHWARRIOR GAME!

As a 24 year mechwarrior/battletech player I know that MWO isn't a true mechwarrior game. My best freind who has been playing mechwarrior/battletech for 25 years knows that MWO isn't a real mechwarrior game. I am really sorry guys but MWO is not a true mechwarrior game!

Anyways you guys can feel free to say whatever you want in response to this post. I don't really care if any of you disagree with me and my old school battletech buddies feelings on MWO. I got a Mechwarrior Tactics beta key now, so i won't be wasting my time on MWO anymore,. If any of you want to face some real Mechwarriors come face us on mechwariors tactics. See you guys.

OMG IT'S YOU! LOLOLOLOL

Yo, guys, seriously. This guy is my favorite troll in MWO. I noob rushed in an atlas and was gettin spanked by like 4 mechs. As I was about to die, I notice a tiny lil commando standing still shooting me. So I fire an alpha at him and he dies right before I do...guess who the commando was? THE OP! hahaha

He preceded to tell me how much of a n00b I was for killing a commando who was standing still when there were higher priority targets around I should have been killing the other guys instead of him n how his team was going to win...

Well guess who lost the match? lol "madcuzubad"

[Phelan Kell 83]

I couldn't help but notice that not one, but four founders replied to this messege within 30 seconds of me posting it, and even one of them was a legendary founder. Look I understand that Piranha Games is a company, and as a company your employees don't want to lose profits and you don't want the old school batttletech players persuading potential future MWO players to not bother with MWO and to play Mechwarrior Tactics instead. You founders and Piranha employees don't want Mechwarrior Tactics taking all your potential profits away from your company I get that, but this is not the way you prevent that from happenning. You guys need to accept the fact that there are serious problems with your game and that you are alienating the old school battletech player base and making many within the battletech community not wanna play.MWO and you are making a large portion of battletech players wanna play Mechwarrior Tactics instead.

Only one of you four founders was polite and respectful in response to this post, and that founder didn't insult me and wasn't demeaning towards me, and she actually handled this post the correct way, because she has brains and she understands that you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar and she realizes that listening to players suggestions who have been playing mechwarrior for 24 years will more than likely improve MWO as a game. Bagheera you handled this post the correct mature way and so i will answer your question and give you the answers you need to make this game a true mechwarrior game.

First of all Bagheera, you guys are correct in making it so that battlemechs only have certain kinds of weapons that they can mount and in a certain number, however, you forget the second rule behind mech modding which goes back to 1989-90 when the clans first arrived. According to battletech mech modding rules which have been around since the clans arrived in 1989, when you swap a weapon for another weapon on a normal battlemech, it has to be a weapon of the same type AND A WEAPON OF CLOSE TO SIMILAR TONNAGE AND SIMILAR CRITICAL SPACES! For example, in 3050 the succession wars Centurions which carried Autocannon 10s their Autocannon 10s were replaced with a LBX 10 Autocannon, the Centurions from the succession wars which had Autocannon 20s however, they could not mount lighter LBX10 autocannons due to the crit spaces being drastically different for the AC 20 weapon mounts and also due to the Autocannon 20 mounts being designed for heavier Autocannons. The clans developed the omnimech for a reason guys, it was because regular battlemechs can't swap out weapons unless they are similar type and similar tonnage and similar criticals, otherwise that battlemech had to go back to a major factory and it took days if not weeks to make extensive modifications to that battlemech in order to change its weapon mounts/internal criticals/ so that it could carry different weapon types. Clan Coyote developed the Omnimech to fix this problem. What you guys in Piranha need to do is make MWO halfway like Mechwarrior 3 and halfway like Mekteks Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries. If you made MWO this way, mech warfare in game would be more balanced and mechs like the Atlas would be unable to be LRM boats spamming 80 LRMS and mechs like the hunchback would be unable to fire LRMs. Also the PPC Cats would only be able to mount AC5s out of all the ballistic weps and this is due to what i said above about battletech/mechwarrior mech modding rules. This is the first thing you guys need to do to improve the game and restore balance to the game and make it a true mechwarrior game.

Second thing you guys need to do Bagheera, is restore the classic battletechs armor system and restore the classic battletech wep damage system. The fact that LRM 15 racks are killing mechs in MWO faster than Autocannon 10s kill mechs, and even 2 Large Lasers kill mechs slower than a single LRM 15 rack does, I am sorry, but how are we old school battletech/mechwarrior players supposed to take MWO seriously? LRMS are sandpaper weps, each long range missile does 1 damage per missile and usually when you fire a salvo half the missiles miss, also, Atlas battlemechs having a Armor factor of 600 are you kidding me, that alone makes me not wanna play MWO.

The only mechs in this game that should have multiple LRMs are Awesomes Catapults and Atlas battlemechs, and Centurions and Dragons should have a single LRM 10, if you guys made these changes it would bring balance back to MWO and there would be more people actually fighting eachother. As the game stands Autocannons and lasers have no place in this game, 90% of MWO players don't use autocannons or large lasers or small lasers due to how the mech building works and how the damage works in the game with the weps and how the armor system is.

Oh one last thing, Bagheera, sorry about having a cannon name, but Phelan Kell 83 has been my call sign going back to Mechwarrior 2. I just want to say Bagheera it is refreshing to meet someone who checks his/her pride at the door and isn't too proud and stubborn to ask for help/advice from other people. If the rest of these guys would use honey like you instead of throwing vinegar everywhere, they probably would have jars full of flies by now/MWO would be a better game than Mechwarrior Tactics. Anyways if MWO changes I will come back, otherwise I will just play Mechwarrior Tactics. You take care Bagheera.

[Swiss Beats]

*yawn*

[Argann]

[Phelan Kell 83]

Hey Bagheera me and most of my old school battletech buddies are playing on Mechwarrior Tactics, we plan on creating a unit in the next few days. We already have a GSC server up and running in preperation for our units creation. I respect the maturity you just showed in your last post, you didn't behave like the rest of these saiyan princes, rather than letting your ego and pride cloud your judgement, you humbly asked if I had any insight which could better MWO and better the Mechwarrior Community as a whole. I like your style Bagheera you are a regular Goku/Kakarott, putting others before yourself. Anyways if you would like to join us on MWT feel free to email me, my email is in my MWO profile. It is kinda sad how for every 10 Vegetas I meet in life I meet one Goku anyways email me Bagheera if your interested.

[Argann]

What's a goku?

Phelan Kell 83, on 07 November 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

Hey Bagheera me and most of my old school battletech buddies are playing on Mechwarrior Tactics, we plan on creating a unit in the next few days. We already have a GSC server up and running in preperation for our units creation. I respect the maturity you just showed in your last post, you didn't behave like the rest of these saiyan princes, rather than letting your ego and pride cloud your judgement, you humbly asked if I had any insight which could better MWO and better the Mechwarrior Community as a whole. I like your style Bagheera you are a regular Goku/Kakarott, putting others before yourself. Anyways if you would like to join us on MWT feel free to email me, my email is in my MWO profile. It is kinda sad how for every 10 Vegetas I meet in life I meet one Goku anyways email me Bagheera if your interested.

Edited by Argann, 07 November 2012 - 10:50 AM.

[Catamount]

Argann, on 07 November 2012 - 10:50 AM, said:

What's a goku?

He pilots Voltron, the world's greatest Pokemon master.


Only people who post 6,000 word rabid rants eloquent essays to inform the world that they're the best pilot evar because they supposedly most definitely dueled 4 pugs in a Commando and won understand.

Edited by Catamount, 07 November 2012 - 11:03 AM.

[Viper69]

Argann, on 07 November 2012 - 10:50 AM, said:

What's a goku?

Its a guy who has a fetish for dragon-balls. Not the fuzzy kind.

[Argann]

Viper69, on 07 November 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Its a guy who has a fetish for dragon-balls. Not the fuzzy kind.

[Cmdr Rad]

Ah, Commander Kell, I did not recognize you. To make your point more clear, I shall present a portrait from your greatest battle, so that people understand their cowardice:



If only all people fought with so much courage!

Edited by Cmdr Rad, 07 November 2012 - 11:06 AM.

[wanderer]

This just in: Rambo thinks other team is bad and should feel bad for ganging up on him, proves he's better by fighting 1v1 with internal structure bug killing opponents in one hit to internals each.

News at 11.

[DogDay]

Try out a lance of Light 'Mechs.

The low weight forces a match against similar 'Mechs.

All the brawling you could ever need; LRM boats are easy pickings with the Light weight offset.