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#101 Kraven Kor

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:36 PM

View PostSquareSphere, on 07 November 2012 - 11:25 AM, said:


How bout you explain why it has UAC5's on it when all other intro mech stories have used default load outs. Either the writer messed up and looked up the omni version while writing the story, OR PGI messed up and introduced the wrong Blackjack



No i'm pointing out that PGI is getting sloppy.


I think you need to take a break from the internet. You are taking this entirely too seriously. Unless you are, in fact, Sheldon from TBBT (or channeling that level of OCDness.... If so, I give you mad props.)

I'm granting you two weeks vacation. Mandatory. :rolleyes:

#102 sir tahn maihem

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:58 PM

I'm overjoyed that they have announced another mech from my want list. They shall look good next to my Centurions and Trebuchets.

#103 Odanan

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:03 PM

View Postzer0imh, on 07 November 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

offspring of a jagermech and a rifleman


Or the JagerMech and the Catapult K2.

#104 CycKath

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:29 PM

Very pretty

#105 MasterofBlasters

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:36 PM

We're probably gonna have to wait till June for this aren't we?
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#106 William Petersen

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:41 PM

You realize, of course, that there is no BattleMech "BlackJack" that mounts 2 UAC/5 and 4 MLas.

There is, however, an OmniMech "BlackJack" (BJ2-O Prime, to be specific) that mounts those weapons (and 4 M. Guns)...

...that won't be developed until 3058!

Edited by William Petersen, 07 November 2012 - 05:42 PM.


#107 MasterofBlasters

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:44 PM

View PostWilliam Petersen, on 07 November 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

You realize, of course, that there is no BattleMech "BlackJack" that mounts 2 UAC/5 and 4 MLas.

There is, however, an OmniMech "BlackJack" (BJ2-O Prime, to be specific) that mounts those weapons (and 4 M. Guns)...

...that won't be developed until 3058!


Actually read the fluff please?

View PostInnerSphereNews, on 07 November 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

After the last battle, he'd finally saved up for his perfect customization.

Edited by Barg12, 07 November 2012 - 05:46 PM.


#108 GrabbleRus

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:55 PM

View PostInnerSphereNews, on 07 November 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

"Right flank you have incoming LRMs, repeat, incoming LRMs."
"Roger, getting into cover now!" replied one.


"No, @#$%! We've got a new patch! Cover is useless! Eject NOW!"
"Eject? Why? BZZZZZZTTT! THTHOOM! ...criti...amag..."
BOOOOOM!
"Told him..."

#109 Crazywolf

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:04 PM

Want... That is all

#110 Ironhawk

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:05 PM

Great job on that Mech design Alex! Will love to give it a repaint job (or two... or three...) That 4th Deneb scheme smells a bit like it's got a Mark Hayden influence... or is it just too soon?

#111 Cache

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:05 PM

Artwork looks great but I hope they get the energy hardpoints right in the BJ-1. The original TT artwork didn't match the stats (common problem) and there should be only a single laser in each arm and one in each side torso. I'm looking forward to several variants of this one.


edit: Looks like they're aware of the weapon location issue.

View PostAlex Iglesias, on 07 November 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

hmm, the torso lasers was one that just flat out slipped past me, i should have know better than to trust them tro arts.

i'll fix that in the orthos

Edited by cache, 07 November 2012 - 08:11 PM.


#112 Onyx Rain

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:09 PM

I'll probably give this mech a shot...not one of my favorite looking mechs, but decent enough.

Tired of all the armless chicken legged mechs for sure.

Arms are good...arms look cool. Chicken legs are ok...but only with arms!

BJ-1 might be cool if you can get the 2 uac5's on with enough ammo and back up lasers....When they fix uac5 jam rate/stupid un-jam mechanic.

Bj-2 looks like a good one assuming it still has the JJ. 4 strk or srm launchers will be cool. Maybe mix/match em, 2 strk2's 2 srm6's. I'd probably ditch the er large for regular large lasers though.

Edited by Onyx Rain, 07 November 2012 - 08:12 PM.


#113 MeerKatV

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:15 PM

Bodyguard, skirmisher - Centurion check
Scout,raider - Cicada check
Missile support -Trebuchet check

Long range ballistic support - Blackjack check
Brawler - Hunchback check

Boy, the medium mech roster is full!

#114 Farmer

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

Looks good, but the BJ-2 is gonna be a real beast to work with. That mech was errata'd to DHS in TT. I'm afraid of what that energy loadout will do without true DHS.

#115 ChapeL

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:39 PM

Cool, glad to see it in the lineup... even though it's in the 18th spot. ( meaning the clan invasion might well be done and over with by the time it shows up in game.. I kid, I kid... a little... maybe. :lol: )

#116 Onyx Rain

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:47 PM

View PostFarmer, on 07 November 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

Looks good, but the BJ-2 is gonna be a real beast to work with. That mech was errata'd to DHS in TT. I'm afraid of what that energy loadout will do without true DHS.


I think 2 large lasers, 4 strk2's with dhs will work well...maybe even 2 large, 2 strk2's and 2 srm6's, or 3 strk2's and 1 srm6. Especially if you can squeeze in the fastest standard, or at least xl engines.

Untill something is done to buff most other large energy weapons other then large lasers, I think ER Lg lasers/erppc/Lg pulse are out for most builds.

Edited by Onyx Rain, 07 November 2012 - 09:47 PM.


#117 Farmer

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:58 PM

View PostOnyx Rain, on 07 November 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:


I think 2 large lasers, 4 strk2's with dhs will work well...maybe even 2 large, 2 strk2's and 2 srm6's, or 3 strk2's and 1 srm6. Especially if you can squeeze in the fastest standard, or at least xl engines.

Untill something is done to buff most other large energy weapons other then large lasers, I think ER Lg lasers/erppc/Lg pulse are out for most builds.

Yes, but it's 2 ERLLAS. And it's a brawler, not a skirmisher, meaning it needs to fire those as often as possible.

EDIT: Oh, and there are only 11 HS's. So yeah, it can't cool HALF it's primary weapons properly.

Edited by Farmer, 07 November 2012 - 09:59 PM.


#118 Omar Thirds

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:02 PM

"Wait-damn" said Leigh over the comms, casual composure replaced by mild irritation. Before he could ask, he heard the sound of her headset clattering against her desk. Only one kind of death bothered Leigh this much-of course, he thought, he should have known-but before he could back off and attempt to break the lock, LRMs had gone to work on his Blackjack's center torso. His mech's "long range" UAC5s where no match for the brutal economy of LRM boats.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:18 PM

could be interesting

#120 Onyx Rain

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:51 PM

View PostFarmer, on 07 November 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Yes, but it's 2 ERLLAS. And it's a brawler, not a skirmisher, meaning it needs to fire those as often as possible.

EDIT: Oh, and there are only 11 HS's. So yeah, it can't cool HALF it's primary weapons properly.


I think DHS will be a must have, for most of the better energy builds.

Well that's why I said take out the ER larges, and go regular large lasers (nice range still so you can stay back from the fight if u need to). Even with 4 streaks (which are only 2 heat each), you get a 38 dmg alpha strike, Not to bad for a 45 ton mech...and if you get a little to hot to fire the large lasers, you can still pop off those streaks pretty regularly. Also chain firing 2 large, and 4 strk2's would probably work well. (as long as you didn't rapid tap the chain fire button...just hold it down and go normal chain fire speed)

I don't know, even with DHS If you could manage the heat from 2 large and 4 srm6's...probably not, but maybe 2 mediums or at the very least 2 smalls, and that would give you a close range alpha of 66-70dmg, nothing to laugh at. So there is another viable build probably

Now If you are just talking about playing it stock....well I try to never do that ^_^

Edited by Onyx Rain, 08 November 2012 - 07:58 AM.






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