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[Ngamok]

SnuggleBug, on 14 May 2013 - 08:13 AM, said:

It looks like its wearing a pants suit from the 80's with the giant shoulder pads. The only thing missing is the frizzy hair with 15 pounds of aqua net hairspray. Then there you would have it 80's female yuppie.

I also do not like the doughnut around it's abdomen.

[Ngamok]

Shumabot, on 14 May 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

Not much anything that isn't an assault could do. The metagame isn't going to get broken up without matchmaking revisions and changes to how rewards are scaled and objectives are handled.

I saw a Jenner do 1273 Damage in a match 2 days ago.

[Koniving]

FupDup, on 14 May 2013 - 12:34 PM, said:

That's when Macro'd, which turns just about anything carried in large numbers into machine guns. Individual SPL aren't any more machinegunny than Small Lasers. O_o

Actually they sucked when macroed. I was referring to the part near the beginning when I have them simply chainfired so that there's always one firing and very low heat. That's without macro. Later when I do put them in a macro I complain because they are too fast, no longer fun, and generate insane heat. They deal their damage faster than small lasers (1/3 shorter beam span, about the same cooldown time, cooler sound effect). Makes them ideal for fast-attack mechs.

Yes, medium lasers have longer range. Each beam also has to be focused twice as long at a target considerably farther away and thus possibly moving faster, to only deal 2 additional damage. Small Pulse can fire three times (it's duration + cooldown time to fire again) in the time it takes for the medium to fire twice. The heat is lower per shot, though the heat per second is up because it shoots faster.

In general if you have a lot of laser slots, I've always found the SPL to be better than MLs on a medium mech. Even more so with the BJ being lighter than the HBK. Not only that but they simply look cooler.

Edited by Koniving, 14 May 2013 - 12:52 PM.

[Adridos]

Koniving, on 14 May 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

That's 8 energy. Does this mean this BlackJack will be able to compete with the HBK 4P as a laser boat? It'd be nice to have another multi Small Pulse rig.

Don't forget it goes 81kp/h stock...

[Koniving]

Adridos, on 14 May 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

Don't forget it goes 81kp/h stock...

ZOMG! GIMME!

[Shumabot]

Ngamok, on 14 May 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

I saw a Jenner do 1273 Damage in a match 2 days ago.

When was the last time the games fastest most well armed light was a medium mech? Also, when was the last time a centurion did that?

[Soeth]

FupDup, on 14 May 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

There's not much they can do against Highlanders and Stalkers...

Pfew, thanks Kerensky, i`m playing for fun, who would want to mixmax, right?

Edited by Soeth, 14 May 2013 - 01:36 PM.

[Hawk819]

You know, it's a good thing I made room in my hangar. Here's she comes. . . the Blackjack!

[FupDup]

Soeth, on 14 May 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:

Pfew, thanks Kerensky, i`m playing for fun, who would want to mixmax, right?

I never knew that dying helplessly was fun.


PS: Just out of curiosity, how many of your mechs carry SHS?

Edited by FupDup, 14 May 2013 - 02:07 PM.

[Butane9000]

Woah woah.

So you put up the Blackjack page and what do we see?

The BJ-1, BJ-1DC, BJ-1X and BJ-3. What about the BJ-1DB? It's available, why wasn't it added? Is there some neferious reason we're missing some available timewise variants such as the BJ-1DB stated above along with the Hunchback HBK-4N, Centurion CN9-AH and Trebuchet TBT-5S?

This is especially confusing because the Blackjack BJ-1X wasn't even mass produced. They switched to the BJ-1 with 2 AC2's instead of Flamers. So I've gotta ask... why?

Sources: Sarna, Master Unit List

Edited by Butane9000, 14 May 2013 - 02:30 PM.

[FupDup]

Butane9000, on 14 May 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

Woah woah.

So you put up the Blackjack page and what do we see?

The BJ-1, BJ-1DC, BJ-1X and BJ-3. What about the BJ-1DB? It's available, why wasn't it added? Is there some neferious reason we're missing some available timewise variants such as the BJ-1DB stated above along with the Hunchback HBK-4N, Centurion CN9-AH and Trebuchet TBT-5S?

This is especially confusing because the Blackjack BJ-1X wasn't even mass produced. They switched to the BJ-1 with 2 AC2's instead of Flamers. So I've gotta ask... why?

Sources: Sarna, Master Unit List

The Centurion AH was removed to monetize the Yen-Lo-Wang. I dunno about the Hunchie or Trebbie, though. As for the Blackjacks, it seems that they could have just used the -1BD as their 8-laser-boat instead of the 1X but decided not to for some odd reason.

[Butane9000]

FupDup, on 14 May 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

The Centurion AH was removed to monetize the Yen-Lo-Wang. I dunno about the Hunchie or Trebbie, though. As for the Blackjacks, it seems that they could have just used the -1BD as their 8-laser-boat instead of the 1X but decided not to for some odd reason.

Just gives me more questions for ask the devs 39.

[Skye Storm]

So why are we getting battlemech 18 before battlemech 17?

[Soeth]

FupDup, on 14 May 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

I never knew that dying helplessly was fun.


PS: Just out of curiosity, how many of your mechs carry SHS?

Well if using something outside current meta "op build" is the one way ticket for a person to die horribly, than it speaks more about a person than about the build imo.
And answering your question: atm shs have almost no viability vs dhs due current heat scheme, so if the question was something along the lines of: well you are using only shs, so you minmaxing yourself. Well there is a difference between running shs and only piloting assaults loaded with ppcs and defying other builds as viable all together.
Cheers-

Edited by Soeth, 14 May 2013 - 03:40 PM.

[Lord de Seis]

Lame that the BJ-1DB is missing, great varient.

[Commander Kobold]

Skye Storm, on 14 May 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

So why are we getting battlemech 18 before battlemech 17?

announcement order is not the release order (they appear to be going light medium heavy assault so the next mech "should" be the orion)

[Taj the White Tiger]

Skye Storm, on 14 May 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

So why are we getting battlemech 18 before battlemech 17?

Releasing the flea witout MASC or a removal of the engine caps would be pointless, so they wisely changed the order

[Khan Hallis]

Well,
I don't know where the BJ-1X variant has come from, nor do I see why the BJ-2 has not been included, but what ever...

[Vasili]

SquareSphere, on 07 November 2012 - 11:21 AM, said:

... THIS IS SO WRONG! This is Omni mech version, the battlemech NEVER had UAC5s as default weapons! This mech breaks the time line. The omni Blackjack wasn't available until 3057, that's post Tukkayyid!

if they were going to start announcing "future" mech they should have started with Clan invasion mechs

I'm calling out who ever decided to include this mech at this phase!

you do realize that was not a stock 'Mech, right? Reading comprehension, sir.
"[color=#CCCCCC]he'd finally saved up for his perfect customization"[/color]

[Seth]

The BJ-1X was the first prototype for the Blackjack. The BJ-2 doesn't enter production until 3052 / 2015. Check out me article on it on NGNG for some history of the design.

http://nogutsnogalax...-the-blackjack/