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Srms And Artemis: I'm Not Seeing An Improvement


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#1 Huntsman

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:43 AM

Dumbfire srms are supposed to get a tighter grouping with artemis, but I'm really not seeing it. Anyone else feel like they just spent a ton 'o cbills on snakeoil?

Edited by Huntsman, 09 November 2012 - 10:46 AM.


#2 Huntsman

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:29 PM

bump

#3 Kyrie

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:31 PM

Somewhat useless on SRM4, but I think I see a difference with SRM6. Either that, or I'm convincing myself there is a difference. :-)

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:33 PM

There is a relatively large difference at ranges just beyond 80m, imo They are better against anything bigger then a light, but worse against lights because of how much tighter the grouping is. Of course trying to hit a light with srms is generally a waste of ammo unless you are true with your aim.

Edit: The difference was rather obvious when using 2 srms 6's. Not sure about smaller srms.

Edited by HurlockHolmes, 10 November 2012 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:54 PM

yeah they are tighter. However I took art back off my hunchy

#6 Sirous

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:14 PM

Not very noticeable if you are just running one maybe two launchers. If like the A1 or anything else with 3 or more, running SRM6's with and without Artemis was definitely noticeable. Problem is that it cost quite a bits of the cbills in testing to figure out if it was in fact worth it.

#7 Johnny Reb

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:19 PM

My clan would disagree with you.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:20 PM

Works great for me, worth the money in my book.

#9 Belorion

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:21 PM

A lot tighter spread.

#10 Jman5

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:24 PM

View PostPropagandaWar, on 10 November 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

yeah they are tighter. However I took art back off my hunchy

Same. I tried it out for a day or two and switched back. I needed every ton I could spare and I just couldn't justify spending 2 tons on slightly tighter spread.

#11 Mr 144

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:31 PM

Said it before, will keep saying it...TAG+Artemis+SRM6=Goodness ;) Actually usefull for taking ranged shots at unsuspecting Mech's backs now. I can fairly accurately target the rear center torso of an atlas at 200m. Without Artemis, I wouldn't bother trying at that range, and if I did, I'd just be trying to actually 'hit' the mech, as opposed to real sectional aiming.

It is strange to get use to firing them at range though, after so long of point-blank only use. Treat them as you would a ballistic and you should see a major difference.

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#12 JebusGeist

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:40 PM

View PostHuntsman, on 09 November 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

Dumbfire srms are supposed to get a tighter grouping with artemis, but I'm really not seeing it. Anyone else feel like they just spent a ton 'o cbills on snakeoil?

I've personally fired non-artemis SRMs and Artemis SRMs from the same mech. When firing my srms at 180m without artemis they spread outwards a bit like a shotgun blast and in so doing tend to hit the side torsos, arms, and legs when I was aiming dead center torso on a stationary mech. With Artemis SRMs they fire in a much tighter group and hammer into the center and side torsos only, none of them spread out enough to hit the arms and a good deal more of the damage lands where I was actually aiming.

#13 Lefty Lucy

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:56 PM

View PostMr 144, on 10 November 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

Said it before, will keep saying it...TAG+Artemis+SRM6=Goodness ;) Actually usefull for taking ranged shots at unsuspecting Mech's backs now. I can fairly accurately target the rear center torso of an atlas at 200m. Without Artemis, I wouldn't bother trying at that range, and if I did, I'd just be trying to actually 'hit' the mech, as opposed to real sectional aiming.

It is strange to get use to firing them at range though, after so long of point-blank only use. Treat them as you would a ballistic and you should see a major difference.

Mr 144


I found that TAG had zero effect on non-artemis SRMs. Not sure why it would work with artemis SRMs.

#14 trycksh0t

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:00 PM

I've definitely seen an improvement used with SRM6s, though I haven't tried it with anything smaller. Being able to actually put more than 1-2 missiles into an Atlas at 180m is kinda nice (Now I consistently get 4 or 5, YAY!).

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:25 PM

View PostLefty Lucy, on 10 November 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:


I found that TAG had zero effect on non-artemis SRMs. Not sure why it would work with artemis SRMs.


It does work with non-arty SRMs...the spread just sucks so bad at range regardless, it's practically meaningless.

If you fire a single Arty SRM6 with and w/o TAG, you will see an obvious difference at 150-250 range. A single cluster is tight enough with both running, that just about every missle hits the same spot. I don't know if the difference alone is worth loading TAG onto a brawler, but I TAG anyhow for my LRM, so I notice the difference quite easily.

I'm still experimenting with what causes the mysterious semi-tracking a bunch of people are seeing too, and TAG stacked just may be the cause, but it's to soon to tell.

Mr 144





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