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[Pilot Man]

what should i buy to win?
money is limited, so i dont want to waste it

[QuantumButler]

Jenner F w/ XL300 and 6 smllas

[Ritter Cuda]

le sigh.................................................

[Krivvan]

It depends on what you're good with.

[Joseph Mallan]

If you are good in a Light Mech then Quantum is right. You need to buy a chassis you "click" in. Test some configs and find your OP build. Oh and what ever is thought to be OP today will be nerfed tomorrow. So don't count on it staying powerful.

[QuantumButler]

Joseph Mallan, on 10 November 2012 - 06:22 AM, said:

If you are good in a Light Mech then Quantum is right. You need to buy a chassis you "click" in. Test some configs and find your OP build. Oh and what ever is thought to be OP today will be nerfed tomorrow. So don't count on it staying powerful.

The 6 smllas Jenner F has been consistently powerful for months now, suffice to say it's here to stay.

Heck, with Dubs you can even pull off 4 x medlas 2 x smllas or even 6x medlas if you don't mind riding a walking toaster.

smllas allows you to alpha strike forever constantly and never overheat, but more meds give you a bigger alpha bite.

Edited by QuantumButler, 10 November 2012 - 06:24 AM.

[Khan Warlock Kell]

K2 Cat put twin gauss in 2 med lasers and if your a half decent shot watch even assault mechs blow out as you heat shot them or core them.

[Tremendous Upside]

What Quantum said... The Jenner really is the single most OP mech in the game - by a long shot. It's not overpowered in a 1v1 kind of way - but more in the fact that with an XL300 engine, you're so fast that your armor is almost irrelevant so long as your'e always moving or staying in cover. I've had so many games in other mechs where I've put up 1000 damage and 4-6 kills - and LOST the game (earning pennies for my efforts). And yet if I take my Jenner out, tell my team I'm going to "X" on the map and will push to cap to cause chaos, the team ends up winning 75% of the time - even if I'm playing half-drunk.

I may not survive the match. I may not even break 200 damage... or do much of anything offensively, but with the Jenner, if I just survive for a good 2-3 minutes in the opposing team's defensive area I'm going to come out of the game with a healthy profit and more than likely a win. And if you have 2 or 3 other light mechs with you doing the same thing? Forget about it... Game over.

[Obadiah333]

Hawken. Hawken is the most OP build. Go play over there.

[QuantumButler]

Zakius, on 10 November 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

K2 Cat put twin gauss in 2 med lasers and if your a half decent shot watch even assault mechs blow out as you heat shot them or core them.

Pfft, I much prefer the 80kph K2 with no backup weapons at all.

Gotta be sahnic.

[Inveramsay]

Jenner F, XL280 with spead tweak, AMS, 3xMlas, 3xSlas, Endo and DHS. I think 6xSlas is a bad set up since the range is pathetic

The Jenner D with 245xl, 4xMlas and 2xSSRM2, AMS, Endo and DHS is pretty good as well.

[QuantumButler]

Inveramsay, on 10 November 2012 - 06:29 AM, said:

Jenner F, XL280 with spead tweak, AMS, 3xMlas, 3xSlas, Endo and DHS. I think 6xSlas is a bad set up since the range is pathetic

The Jenner D with 245xl, 4xMlas and 2xSSRM2, AMS, Endo and DHS is pretty good as well.

but with a XL 300, a 6 sllas jenner can easily get within range to use it's lasers.

Honestly though, I prefer MLs to SLs myself too, will probably try a similar build once I buy a Jenner F, I just realize 6x sl is probably gonna be better, I don't care if my builds are not optimal however. Optimal is boring.

[Amber Clad]

QuantumButler, on 10 November 2012 - 06:13 AM, said:

Jenner F w/ XL300 and 6 smllas

You mean Jenner F w XL300 and 6 Medium Lasers...right?

Expensive as hell to run I admit. You need DHS, Endo, and Ferro to make it work. You should be able to hit around 200pt's Armour(Don't have Mechlab in front of me). There's some heat management involved, you can Alpha a few times before overheat, I have 2 groups of 3MLAS set-up for cooling-down.

It's fun to be able to slap someone for appreciable damage without having to kiss them. You can pretty much 2 shot ears off Cata's which is just fantastic, same with Dragon and Centurion Arms.

[Kauhava]

Jenner F with 6 SLs or Catapult K2 with dual Gausses. First one for harassing, second for sniping.

[J4ckInthebox]

6xSRM6 ninja CAT.

[Hovertank]

Go here: http://www.mechspecs.com

Lots of mech builds. You'll need some basic intelligence and experience with builds to be able to sort the obvious bad builds from the good ones though.

[Impossible Wasabi]

The Space Pope finds that the most powerful build is the build that you enjoy playing the most.

Try different mechs, experiment with load outs and discover what play style or class that suits you best.

Edited by Merlevade, 10 November 2012 - 06:54 AM.

[J4ckInthebox]

^- this.

Everyone thinks the YLW is a piece of crap, but i'm having a friggin blast with it. i like it, therefore I am quite efficient with it. See the pattern ?

[SwordofLight]

QuantumButler, on 10 November 2012 - 06:23 AM, said:

The 6 smllas Jenner F has been consistently powerful for months now, suffice to say it's here to stay.

Heck, with Dubs you can even pull off 4 x medlas 2 x smllas or even 6x medlas if you don't mind riding a walking toaster.

smllas allows you to alpha strike forever constantly and never overheat, but more meds give you a bigger alpha bite.

Saw a Jenner variant with 2x Pulse ML, and 2x SL win the game for us. He got 4, 5 kills, over a 1000 points of damage. Dude knew his business.

The best variant I've been able to come up with so far is a fast Commando - 180 standard, 3x ML, SSRM. Its good because its quick and small - so as a scout, harrasser, and squirrel its pretty decent, and 116kph means its a good interceptor for other lights. Lately, though, I've been dying more often than not, so I'm thinking of investigating the Cicada for a similar role.

-Don

[Kommisar]

Everyone has something they hate and feel is the "Over-Powered Win of ye Gods". For a long while, it was the Gaussapult. Now it is the Streakcat. And LRM boats have floated on and off the list with each patch. And the patching is not done with.

The simple truth is that you can succeed with most mechs. It all depends on:

• your play style and how well you can adapt your tactics to your mech and loadout. If you want to wade into firefights, don't buy a Jenner. You want to fly around the map, changing your position, and not wanting to be patient, don't buy an Atlas.
  
• Which leads to: Don't force your mech/build into tactics it can not execute. Yea, sometimes, things get out of hand and you get stuck. Then you just have to do your best. But I have witnessed a LOT of new players (since Open Beta) actively pushing their mechs into rolls that they are not suited to. Just because your new Hunchback has an AC/20 doesn't mean you can walk up to an Atlas battle line and join in. Your catapult may have those nasty Gauss Rifles... but good players are going to burn/blast through your exposed cockpit as soon as you give them a good, close shot. And worst of all! Don't get it into your head that just because you are in an Atlas you are a god of battle that can do whatever he wishes. You are powerful. You are also the biggest prize/target on the field.
  
• Who are you playing with!!!! Or, more to the point, are you playing with a group. On Teamspeak? I don't care what mech you are using; being with a organized or even semi-organized group is THE single force multiplier that effects rounds more than any other factor. If you are dropping lone wolf (which I do when my group is not around) stick with the group.... even if they are morons and doing something dumb. Your chances are better helping the group do something dumb, than you all by yourself doing something smart.
  
• Know your own skills. If you are not a great shot, don't invest in those ER Large Lasers; the extra range (and heat) is wasted on you. If your situational awareness is not the best, you will struggle in that fast light. If you are just plain stupid... well, can't fix stupid.

Take me. I'm a good shot. I can pick parts and remove them. I can use that ER Large Laser and keep the beam on a Catapults cockpit or a Dragon's arm for most of the beam duration. Even moving. One of my lance-mates, not so much. He prefers his medium pulse lasers on a lighter, faster chassis. Over all, we both do very well, with similar K/D ratios and all playing to our skills.

And don't shy away from a weapon based on the "common sense". Most will say that the PPC and ERPPC are useless. I completely disagree. Back before the wipe, I was running a 4 PPC awesome and I was a surgeon with those bolts. My style is to be patient and to pick and place my shots carefully. I'm not holding down the trigger and spraying. I'll wait a few seconds, letting the enemy spray some shots across my armor, then put in one big strike where it counts. PPCs are devastating weapons in that role.

You'll note I talked about tactics and not much on weapons. That's the point. Play the trial mechs, practice managing your heat on those "Hot" mechs (that skill will serve you well!). Find the style that is fun for you. Then build a mech that suits it.

If you just build based on what others like and win with, you may end up being very frustrated and disappointed.