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[AC Rimak]

NamesAreStupid, on 11 November 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Processor: AMD A6-3650 APU with Radeon™ HD Graphics (4 CPUs), ~2.6GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560
Resolution 1680x1050
?

EDIT: High settings

To reply to you, I'm getting 12! FPS @

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Processor: AMD FX-6100 6C 3.3G
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 4gb

1920x1080

on LOW settings.
Happy me!

Edited by AC Rimak, 12 November 2012 - 02:51 AM.

[Fooooo]

Kabe, on 11 November 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

Is this game not 32 bit meaning it only uses 3 gigs?

I think this is correct.

Nighpher, on 11 November 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

Nope
Nope.

Actually, im pretty sure it is using only a 32bit exe atm.

The main reason is there is only 1 main executable.......and I don't think it can be both of them in 1 (as in the sdk you have to compile them separate)..........it also uses the bin32 directory instead of the bin64 one, however I don't think it really matters what directory it uses as its just the exe compiled for 64bit that matters afaik.

The bin64 / bin32 is probably just so you don't mix files and get confused.......still, AFAIK we are only using a 32bit executable atm....unless the devs have said otherwise somewhere.

Edited by Fooooo, 12 November 2012 - 03:17 AM.

[Pershaw]

"Processor: AMD A6-3650 APU with Radeon™ HD Graphics (4 CPUs), ~2.6GHz"
Is the game using the integrated GPU or your dedicated nvidia card?

[Niberung]

NamesAreStupid, on 12 November 2012 - 01:01 AM, said:

Are you sure, because I can run a lot of new games at highish/very highish settings and get decent FPS. Do you think that overclocking would help? According to some sites I could bump up my speed from ~2.6 GHz to 3.5~3.8GHz, using the stock cooler.

You see, you can run a lot of new games at highish/very highish settings and get decent FPS. Games. MWO does not qualify as a game. It's a beta-version of a game. Development of a game is still in progress, so perfomance issues are kinda expected.
Although, seriously, your CPU is bad and it's probably the cause of your problems. You may see an increase of ~10 fps if you upgrade. But try playing with settings at first. You may get much better FPS with a barely noticeable loss of quality.

[chomeop]

I get 17 - 20fps running 1920x1080 everything maxed.

Shouldn't be that low with my specs. Gonna do some serious troubleshooting on the weekend.

[New Day]

Fooooo, on 12 November 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

I think this is correct.



Actually, im pretty sure it is using only a 32bit exe atm.

The main reason is there is only 1 main executable.......and I don't think it can be both of them in 1 (as in the sdk you have to compile them separate)..........it also uses the bin32 directory instead of the bin64 one, however I don't think it really matters what directory it uses as its just the exe compiled for 64bit that matters afaik.

The bin64 / bin32 is probably just so you don't mix files and get confused.......still, AFAIK we are only using a 32bit executable atm....unless the devs have said otherwise somewhere.

I'll try to set it to use >2GB with the CFF explorer and will report later if something improves.

Pershaw, on 12 November 2012 - 03:36 AM, said:

"Processor: AMD A6-3650 APU with Radeon™ HD Graphics (4 CPUs), ~2.6GHz"
Is the game using the integrated GPU or your dedicated nvidia card?

Pretty sure it's not (using integrated GPU), although I couldn't find an option to set it specifically.

Niberung, on 12 November 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

You see, you can run a lot of new games at highish/very highish settings and get decent FPS. Games. MWO does not qualify as a game. It's a beta-version of a game. Development of a game is still in progress, so perfomance issues are kinda expected.
Although, seriously, your CPU is bad and it's probably the cause of your problems. You may see an increase of ~10 fps if you upgrade. But try playing with settings at first. You may get much better FPS with a barely noticeable loss of quality.

Well if my CPU is bad how come I can run to quote "a lot of new games at highish/very highish settings and get decent FPS". Fact is there is something really weird (read stupid) going on with the engine, in that some people with even better set ups than me can get **** framerate, and some with worse set ups, better.
A game in progress is still a game. You contradict yourself.

[Khujjo]

I had an issue with my framerates following the recent Oct patch. I found this on one of the forums and it helped me instantly. For some reason my laptop was not using my Nvidia card like it had before. I am not a computer guy which is why I am probably not even copying the post properly, but wanted to try to help if possible. This worked for me but again I am on a laptop and don't know if that matters at all. Good luck.









[color=#959595]Seeing as my old thread in beta support has gone AWOL on me, I thought I'd put it back in here, as the response to the last one indicated that a fair amount of people had this issue.[/color]

[color=#959595]For some reason the latest patch has had issues with nvidia mobile graphics cards. I wont go into detail with the specifics (it regards a renamed .exe), but I dropped from about 40fps in the mechlab to about 10 - 14. This is how to work around that issue.[/color]

[color=#959595]First open your NVIDIA control panel, which can be found in your normal control panel settings.[/color]

[color=#959595]Secondly, click on the manage 3D settings tab on the left, and click the 'add' button.[/color]

[color=#959595]This will open a pop-up window. Scroll through and find the mwoclient.exe in your install folder. Default location is: C:\Games\Piranha Games\MechWarrior Online\Bin32\MWOclient.exe[/color]

[color=#959595]From there, change your preferred graphics processor from intergrated (which is the core of the issue) to your nvidia high performance card, then click save on the bottom right corner.[/color]

[color=#959595][/color]

[ExavierMacbeth]

I have the same graphics card as the OP and have been playing with my settings since the Nov 6th patch. I think I tracked down what was causing my to get 4-10fps and now I am averaging 30-50

1) Dual Monitors. I had to disconnect my 2nd monitor because even though I wasn't trying to use it for the game it seemed to be causing random loading issues when the game maximized after hitting Launch. Once it was disconnected most of my problems with bad framerates vanished.

2) Post Processing & Enviroment. I had to drop these down to medium otherwise I was intermittently seeing issues on Forest Colony (when it was raining), and River City (especially when the sun was rendered).

Other than those changes I run graphics at "Very High" for everything else.

Edited by ExavierMacbeth, 12 November 2012 - 07:36 AM.

[SilentGUNS]

Windows 7 Pro
Core i5 2500k - Stock clocks
16 GB RAM
GeForce GTX 560
1920x1080

I was previously running a Core 2 Duo E6550 with 4 GB of RAM and was seeing 10-20 FPS on low settings. After changing out the CPU and RAM I'm seeing 40-50 FPS on very high settings.

[Harabec]

Silly but important thing to check if you are having framerate problems:
Make sure your power profile in windows is set to "performance".

If it is set to balanced or power saving you may be getting throttled by cpu scaling.

[Name60014]

And yet you'll find people on the forums with newer i5s and i7s with better than mid-grade gpus getting sub-optimal performance.

It's a beta. My system runs Crysis 2 on high settings at 1680x1050 at better than 30fps. Here I get maybe 20fps when moving away from the center of a map with no other mechs on screen.

Are the game different enough to warrant this performance gap? Beyond MWO being beta I don't know enough about the underlying changes to the engine and code base to really make a guess.

But I will blame it on horses. Always horses... Horses everywhere.

[Adrienne Vorton]

the current version of the crytek engine 3 is not optimized yet... it causes issues on most PC´s, no matter which specs... don´t forget that it´s more or less brand new and MWO is (afaic) the first online game currently available to the public using it...

[Throbbinwood]

I'm running an Phenom II @ 3ghz, 8GB ram, and a GTX 460 on high settings with no fps issues.

[The Basilisk]

Answer to topic yes.
CryEngine 3 is extreme CPU hungry. Your Graphic card is ok.
But your resolution and graphics settings are hillarious.
Try 1024x720 at medium or some what similar.
With your system you shouldn't go higher than 1280x960 for barely acceptable performance.
As stated before at the moment even the guys with top end GPUs get fps issues.
Atm realy important is your resolution and CPU.
And you got lowend CPU and high resolutions. BAD mixture.

Edited by The Basilisk, 12 November 2012 - 09:10 AM.

[Karenai]

SilentGUNS, on 12 November 2012 - 07:45 AM, said:

Windows 7 Pro
Core i5 2500k - Stock clocks
16 GB RAM
GeForce GTX 560
1920x1080

I was previously running a Core 2 Duo E6550 with 4 GB of RAM and was seeing 10-20 FPS on low settings.  After changing out the CPU and RAM I'm seeing 40-50 FPS on very high settings.

This is about OPs situation. I would also try to upgrade the CPU first and see how much it brings.But before that OC the CPU a little, I could not play MWO with my stock speed. It could get you the bump you need to get playable FPS.

[Nathiel Surefire]

In my case it was actually the last patch that started giving me performance issues, not the new engine. But strange performance is expected at this point in development (for me at least).

Pre-patch I was getting a constant 40-50 fps during battle, now it sits at 20 in most combat situations. It'll most likely change again as we move along.

Windows 8 Pro 64-bit
i7-930 2.8GHz
6Gb RAM (1333MHz DDR3)
GeForce GTX 670 FTW edition
1920x1080

[New Day]

KhujjoBD, on 12 November 2012 - 07:19 AM, said:

I had an issue with my framerates following the recent Oct patch. I found this on one of the forums and it helped me instantly. For some reason my laptop was not using my Nvidia card like it had before. I am not a computer guy which is why I am probably not even copying the post properly, but wanted to try to help if possible. This worked for me but again I am on a laptop and don't know if that matters at all. Good luck.









[color=#959595]Seeing as my old thread in beta support has gone AWOL on me, I thought I'd put it back in here, as the response to the last one indicated that a fair amount of people had this issue.[/color]

[color=#959595]For some reason the latest patch has had issues with nvidia mobile graphics cards. I wont go into detail with the specifics (it regards a renamed .exe), but I dropped from about 40fps in the mechlab to about 10 - 14. This is how to work around that issue.[/color]

[color=#959595]First open your NVIDIA control panel, which can be found in your normal control panel settings.[/color]

[color=#959595]Secondly, click on the manage 3D settings tab on the left, and click the 'add' button.[/color]

[color=#959595]This will open a pop-up window. Scroll through and find the mwoclient.exe in your install folder. Default location is: C:\Games\Piranha Games\MechWarrior Online\Bin32\MWOclient.exe[/color]

[color=#959595]From there, change your preferred graphics processor from intergrated (which is the core of the issue) to your nvidia high performance card, then click save on the bottom right corner.[/color]

I don't have that option

Harabec, on 12 November 2012 - 08:44 AM, said:

Silly but important thing to check if you are having framerate problems:
Make sure your power profile in windows is set to "performance".

If it is set to balanced or power saving you may be getting throttled by cpu scaling.

Already done, have a custom one to max everything for both windows and the NVIDIA Control panel settings.

[New Day]

The Basilisk, on 12 November 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:

Answer to topic yes.
CryEngine 3 is extreme CPU hungry. Your Graphic card is ok.
But your resolution and graphics settings are hillarious.
Try 1024x720 at medium or some what similar.
With your system you shouldn't go higher than 1280x960 for barely acceptable performance.
As stated before at the moment even the guys with top end GPUs get fps issues.
Atm realy important is your resolution and CPU.
And you got lowend CPU and high resolutions. BAD mixture.

With everything at low I get ~20~25 FPS.

[Caleb Lee]

NamesAreStupid, on 12 November 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

I don't have that option

Already done, have a custom one to max everything for both windows and the NVIDIA Control panel settings.

Check your bios, there may be an option to disable it there. Although, a quick search showed that simply plugging in a discrete graphics card like you have auto-disables the onboard chip.

I'd recommend against overclocking your system with a stock cooler. You may be able to achieve higher clocks, but definitely monitor your temps and be very carefull on voltage settings. I have the latest Ivy Bridge i5 overclocked to 3.8 but I also have watercooling and my system temps are fine with no real changes to voltage. My CPU isn't maxed by any means so no CPU bottleneck yet.

Try a few of the suggestions players made a while back. Find and use a system monitoring tool to see if your CPU is maxed. That will at least tell you where your problem is. If you have two monitors, try disabling one of them and see if it improves your performance.

[Thermal]

ShiroTenshin, on 11 November 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

it's not cause lack of RAM, I'm running 12gb and the issue is present.

Running on i7 3770k at 5Ghz on a p8z77 premium with 2x 670 GTX SLIed along 2x 120gb SSD

So it's not hardware issue, it's game issue.

I had a E8400@3.6Ghz, 8Gb ram and a 660ti with Vista. All low settings and I was getting around 30fps in good areas, 15fps in battle.

Upgraded to a i5-3570K and a fresh windows7 install. Now max'd ingame settings. Framerate tripled. Sometimes, on forest colony, with a load of mech's onscreen, I might drop to 50fps. Maybe.

The game screams now.