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[ElcomeSoft]

Lauranis, on 17 November 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

simply to hit the weight limit of the chassis. In the end I opted for a build somewhat like this: Awesome-9M "Dagon" - ERPPC Direct Fire Support and Sniper Suppression Standard 300 engine (stolen from atlas) allows for approx 60kph speed. 3 x ER PPC AMS + 1 ton ammo (ammo in leg) Every free space possible filled with double heat sinks. Frankly the heat dissipation is insane, as is the heat-ceiling. The build can double alpha with the PPC's quite happily, and the discipline required to chain fire the ER PPC's is trivial (each ppc is in its own fire group). Even on caustic, the mech's heat level drops rapidly, allowing for a near continuous barrage of PPC fire.

Tweaks I have considered: downgrading the ER PPC's to standard PPC's and using the weight to mount either SSRM's or medium laser on the centre torso, left arm and head hardpoints for some better close in protection. However this considerably lowers the builds long range damage potential, and makes it much less threatening to LRM boats and gauss snipers sitting at 1k or so downrange.

I play my AWS-9M with 3 PPC's and 1 Medium Laser, crammed with a 300 Std engine and the overview screen shows me 22 DHS. I struggle to keep the heat of my 3 PPC's under control with that kind of scenario (best match saw me get 6 kills with 893 damage and 1 assist) so I'm boggled as to how you handle 3 ER PPC's. Though to my discredit, I'm quite the Alpha guy, never chain-firing, very rarely shutdown unless I know my auto-shutdown volley will be worthy of the risk.

Also, ER PPC's weigh the same as PPC's so you'd only be saving heatsink weight if you decided to strip out some heatsinks when you swapped.

Are the ER PPC's worth the hassle over the standard PPC's? 22 DHS to cover them just does not sound like enough!

[Slanski]

3x Large Laser (in the PPC slots)
3x Medium Pulse Lasers
1x SRM4 in the left arm
22 Double HS on 350XL enginge to run it all.

Specialized it runs at 77kph, turns like a breeze and is a mobile destroyer.

Edit: With their increase and decrease in quality the SSRM2 can be switched for the Medium Pulse Lasers. Currently I would run 3 SSRM2 and 1 MPulse Lasers, until the next nerfbat cycle. Same goes for my ER PPC build further down.

Edited by Slanski, 23 November 2012 - 05:42 AM.

[Child3k]

Yeah ... I kinda think a 3 LL setup is probably the way to go. I tinkered around with an 380XL today and I can't make it work somehow.
I'll probably go with 3x LL, 2xSSRM2, 2xML/MPL and a 325 XL. That gives u good mid-long range damage and the ability to fight of lights.

The 9M Chassis has good potential - but for pugging it is not ideal. Every game in which ur the heaviest mech on ur team the potential for things getting ugly is rather high ...

Edited by Child3k, 18 November 2012 - 01:49 PM.

[Slanski]

Actually my "against the grain" pseudo 80 ton Warhammer looks like this:

350XL Engine, 77kph, 22 DHS
2x ER PPC in LT/RT
2x MPulse Laser in CT
MLaser in RA/H
SRM6 in LA

It rewards good play much more than the brute force laser variant, but is much more difficult to master. Of course it is limited by current heat problems and DHS mechanics. Of course Gauss is the technically better weapon. Of course an Atlas takes more punishment before going down. But this is one flexible, mobile challenge to yourself and your enemies.

[Radiohazard]

I'm considering a Zombie build for the 9m.

Has anybody got any advice?

[Slanski]

Why take a hugely expensive chassis whose main point is mounting an oversized XL engine and turn it Zombie? I see a lack of originality and consequence in the idea.

Do what a fellow Steiner man does and get the 385XL on there with 4LL. That shows determination and understanding of the chassis strong points.

[Radiohazard]

A lack of originality?

I don't see anyone else using the idea.

Besides, most of the 9m's weapons are in the torso. The principle of the Zombie is to be able to kick @$$ and take names while being able to withstand a ton of punishment.

Also, I'm of the belief that the extra space that the xl takes up is bad for its survivability.

[Wrenchfarm]

Boating 4 LLAS while keeping an SRM6 up my left sleeve has brought me the "best" results with this mech. I'm a dainty flower of a man though and limit myself to a STD 260 engine I had lying around. My average life expectancy with the stock XL300 seemed to be about negative 8 seconds from the start of a match. I'm sure that can be mitigated with proper torso twisting (which I'm not TERRIBAD at), but the super large chest of the Awesome seems to catch every stray shot on the battlefield.

Maybe I'll give the XL300 another try and work on it. Still seems mighty fragile for an assault mech.

[Cyk0]

Radiohazard, on 23 November 2012 - 02:22 AM, said:

I'm considering a Zombie build for the 9m.

Has anybody got any advice?

Radiohazard, on 23 November 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

A lack of originality?

I don't see anyone else using the idea.

Besides, most of the 9m's weapons are in the torso. The principle of the Zombie is to be able to kick @$$ and take names while being able to withstand a ton of punishment.

Also, I'm of the belief that the extra space that the xl takes up is bad for its survivability.

I actually posted about a zombie build for the 9m on another thread because it has a good potential for it. The build I suggested there (and still would suggest) is mounting a big non XL engine and MPL's all over the torso and (so you get 5 MPLS and 6 DHS in the side torsos + many in the engine). And then some long range weapons in the arms to bug ppl/be usefull at range. Depending on engine size and how much effect you want to have at long range you can skimp on this section entirely and mount a really big engine, or mount a small engine and put in a ERPPC and a large LRM. (I would probably do a 325 then you can fit an ERLL and a LRM5, those to together should disturb ppl at long rage even if you won't do massive damage, and you will move at a respectable 70,7 kph with speedtweek)

The build fits with really good armor as long as you use endo steel. Lights can be a bit disturbing due to the awesome's not so awesome torso twist speed, but you run cool enough to push out those 30 damage laser pulses at a fast rate (with the quick pulse duration, so focused damage) one mistake mistake from a light should hurt quite a bit. (since each pulse alfa its the same as being hit by a dual gauss you should be able to hit with more than one if they shut down or are tripped) Due to your standard engine and the number of heatsinks you have in it combined with the 3 MPLS in the head and the torso you can put out quite some damage even with both side torsos gone.

Edited by Cyk0, 23 November 2012 - 01:58 PM.

[wickedlegendz]

lol hmmm where to start.. ok so here's the thing...yes the awesome has been nerfed to the point that I'm sad to call most of them awesome as they aren't an awesome anymore, I personally though I honestly rarely give away build setups as that's my secret but!! I have found when using this aws 9m build there is a way to build it to be a decent brawler. the armor etc. is on you to figure out lol.. 2 large pulse lasers, 2 medium lasers, 3 srm 4s or 2 srm 4 with one srm 6 but you get better heat distribution and better dps. a 300 std. 19 total heat sinks. endo steel is a must. All total if you set it up right that gives you plenty for armor and for 4 tons of srm ammo. 55.2 dmg total and a heat of 1.23 which is very manageable if you set up you weapons on chain fire and setup your buttons right. In game with this setup along with elite I do 66.8 kph btw.. just dropped 766 dmg as well dropped 4 mechs and got kill assists on ALL mechs in the match that I personally didn't kill...just sayin lol .. now that I've given you a clue, see what you can do.. have fun and see ya in the lists.

o yeah...btw... this awesome no matter what you might think from my experience..is not very well built for long range in fact the heat you get by trying to set it up for long range will get you killed more often than not..

Edited by wickedlegendz, 26 December 2013 - 01:12 AM.

[Op4blushift]

Did you really need to bump a thread over a year old for that?

[Parappaman]

Christmas Necrobumping + Dead Horse Beating FTW.

Also, self-liking your post is pathetic.

[C E Dwyer]

As with the addition of heat scale and new hit boxes this is out of date and needs to be closed ..

[Wonderdog]

In terms of a relevant contribution to this necrothread, I'll just leave this here:-

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...92ba2826755abbf

[Budor]

I still do this for "trollolols" occasionally:

http://mwomercs.com/...-aws-9m-warsaw/

[edit] 1x (ER)PPC (arm) 5x MLas 1x SRM6 works ok and is not that silly.

Edited by Budor, 27 December 2013 - 06:42 AM.