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[Thom Frankfurt]

Blasphemy!!! *Rounds up the mop and instructs them to get their pitchforks and torches* Why's their a FedRat decal on it?!?!?

All joking aside, it looks great. I can't wait to terrorize the Davies with it.

[Kale Cytair]

I finally sat down and looked at the new Raven, and from what I can tell, the reason I didn't like it at first was because it didn't have the curves I had associated with the mech's name in my mind. My first encounter with the Raven was MechAssault II, where I enjoyed its speed quite a bit. Then I began using it in MechWarrior 4, where I grew to fall in love with the electronic warfare side of the mech.

I finally decided that I like the new look; it looks like the engineers in a sci-fi universe with old technology had to go back a couple of generations in stealth technology to make this mech as small as possible on a sensor scope, hence the angles and overall design aesthetic. If I look at it like I look at the F-117 Nighthawk, as a foray into previously unknown territory, it all of a sudden makes sense.

[Kasar Marec]

I hope this concept art is not final ingame version. I love that mech at all and it is my favorite for scouting but that design is .... horrible

[Dirk Le Daring]

Aelos03, on 26 April 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

Well i think if it had same nose as old model it would look real too?

EDIT: Bt the way are there more pictures of that ancient raven ?

No, while I do like the 'tradiotonal' rendition, I actually think this new design, looks as good, if not better, and it fits with the rest of the mechs perfectly. And yes, it is more 'realistic' in my eyes.

[Fetladral]

kinda meh about the design. Looks more like a dog or ant eater or something.

[Vexgrave Lars]

StoneShipman, on 26 April 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

This picture is not any more canon than the other, more popular and plentiful, designs people are referencing.

In fact, if you were to propose this is the 'real' canon raven, then the MWO design is even worse at representing the Raven well.

I think where Garth's heading Stone is that the design has been through many courses of alterations over the years (good and bad). Which is supported again by your statement, whether you realize it or not. Nothing but the "latest" has been canonical in this game system since the first update went out. I see your point, but only as satyr and cynicism, it is kinda funny. Art is not a popularity contest, if it was.. we'd get 20 entries and they'd ask us to vote. PGI do NOT ask for a vote on future art please, the strife it would cause, as evident in this post, would have flames licking the clouds of heaven.

[Solis Obscuri]

BeakieHelmet, on 26 April 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

EDIT: For those that feel the beak is missing - It's not. The beak looks far more like a Raven's beak than it ever has before, before the beak was more akin to some sort of falcon. So no, this redesign looks MORE like it's namesake than it used to.

Yeah, seriously, the old Raven looked like an eagle-headed cane, not a raven. FD's Raven is actually raven-shaped.

William Petersen, on 26 April 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

Wow, that's even more hideous than the normal Raven. o.o

If you think the RVN-1X looked hideous, you should check out its stats! :
http://www.solaris7....fo.asp?ID=12961

Edited by Solis Obscuri, 26 April 2012 - 02:12 PM.

[Garth Erlam]

Vexgrave Lars, on 26 April 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

I think where Garth's heading Stone is that the design has been through many courses of alterations over the years (good and bad). Which is supported again by your statement, whether you realize it or not. Nothing but the "latest" has been canonical in this game system since the first update went out.

Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.

[UnseenFury]

I don't like the overall game design in general.

The Mechs are looks like they were build in 21st century, not in the 31st, I don't know how to explain it correctly.

Can't do anything about it tho.

[Aelos03]

Solis Obscuri, on 26 April 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

Yeah, seriously, the old Raven looked like an eagle-headed cane, not a raven. FD's Raven is actually raven-shaped.

If you think the RVN-1X looked hideous, you should check out its stats! :
http://www.solaris7....fo.asp?ID=12961

eagle head? where ? just joking
it resembles little on eagle but so does on raven too, but who cares on what it resembles as long its a mech that i like if it changes dramatically like if Thor lose missile barrel thats what is for me if raven lose ravenlike or eaglelike beak, but i will survive once i get game on my hands

Edited by Aelos03, 26 April 2012 - 02:39 PM.

[Tremble Wolf]

I like it but the picture, something seems strange.

It may just be the angle, but I almost feel the legs aren't long enough.

[BanditRaptor]

Aelos03, on 26 April 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

eagle head? where ? just joking
it resembles little on eagle but so does on raven too, but who cares on what it resembles as long its a mech that i like if it changes dramatically like if Thor lose missile barrel thats what is for me if raven lose ravenlike or eaglelike beak, but i will survive once i get game on my hands

So what I'm getting is that all birds look the same to you?

I mean, I guess that's fair, but ravens and falcons have very different kinds of beaks - not to mention eagles. A raven's beak is very narrow and straight in comparison, like how this mech's redesigned head is shaped.

[Aelos03]

BeakieHelmet, on 26 April 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

So what I'm getting is that all birds look the same to you? I mean, I guess that's fair, but ravens and falcons have very different kinds of beaks - not to mention eagles. A raven's beak is very narrow and straight in comparison, like how this mech's redesigned head is shaped.

Not birds but when you compare mech to raven and then compare to eagle it can be both, but what i try to say its not same mech like before its very different now.

[karish]

As are recon pilot it reminds me of a stealth fighter with legs and I LOVE the look. the last incarnation of the Raven was very cartoonish and not a warmachine ment Escape and Evade and jack your electronics with its ECM

[Lailoken]

Its not as much of an instant 'Thats awesome!' as the other concepts, but its still good and growing on me. Curves wouldn't fit with the other concept art from this game.

[Aelos03]

karish, on 26 April 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

As are recon pilot it reminds me of a stealth fighter with legs and I LOVE the look. the last incarnation of the Raven was very cartoonish and not a warmachine ment Escape and Evade and jack your electronics with its ECM

it was cartoonish because technology didn't allow for better.

Lailoken, on 26 April 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

Its not as much of an instant 'Thats awesome!' as the other concepts, but its still good and growing on me. Curves wouldn't fit with the other concept art from this game.

Raven was always different from other mechs so i don't see why should that change.

Edited by Aelos03, 26 April 2012 - 03:31 PM.

[Solis Obscuri]

Aelos03, on 26 April 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

eagle head? where ? just joking
it resembles little on eagle but so does on raven too, but who cares on what it resembles as long its a mech that i like if it changes dramatically like if Thor lose missile barrel thats what is for me if raven lose ravenlike or eaglelike beak, but i will survive once i get game on my hands

[sheradin]

Bullwerk, on 26 April 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

I personally love it. It takes the odd (though striking) curves of the original and replaces them with angles that give it a much more industrial/military look that fits with the common design theme of the other mechs. I for one really appreciate the new art direction that FD is taking with the redesigns and this Raven is a superb example of it.

When I first saw it I immediately identified it as the Raven, so to my senses it retains enough of the original, and yet I delighted at the updated angles and geometry of the torso.

As for everyone crying about Davion colors, give it a rest. They have already said that all the mechs will be available to all the players so it is logical for a Raven in this game to have such colors. In addition it is only a paint job done by a singel artist. Don't like it? break out PS and change it! I'm not FD and I don't know why he went to Davion colors but I don't much care what faction colors it has on it, it is still a pretty mech.

if you look at the art half are done in fedcom colors

[Famous]

Personally I like the redesign, after I'd looked at it a few times. As other poster have pointed out it is reminiscent of the F117, angles to deflect radar and such, but the biggest thing for me is that I can see this redesign "roosting".

Out in enemy territory by yourself, making the smallest target possible really does remind me of a bird roosting on a branch or in a nest.

[Aelos03]

did he just compared raven to a walking stick

Edited by Aelos03, 26 April 2012 - 04:12 PM.