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Ac20- / Gauss-Cat ... It Definitely Needs Some Balancing!


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#101 FromHell2k

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 10:26 AM

Best solution:
Learn to play. I ensure you, it will help! :)

Well, after some time of thinking why I posted only some kind of "pew-pew"-stuff..

There are different setups for different situations. A LRM-Boat will kill a AC/20-Cat every time, if it stays away from it. If it comes close to you, you are screwed. Gauss-Cat in CQB can be punished by a Commando with 1single SLas. At range, the Gauss-Cat will one-shot it. Understood? I've tried the k2 in many variants.. Gauss, AC/20, UAC/5, AC/10 and almost every possible build. 4LLas is most versatile... Is it "imbalanced"?. And one word, from mechwarrior to mechwarrior.. I've seen many ppl crying about "op-builds".. Everything is soooo overpowered. Try it yourself first, then complain.

Edited by FromHell2k, 26 December 2012 - 10:39 AM.


#102 canned wolf

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 10:38 AM

View PostMasterBLB, on 26 December 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

Both Gauss and AC20 cats are fine as they are.Deal with that whinners and learn to play against such mechs rather than yelling they are overpowered.
And no,I don't drive K2 cat,just kill them with my Jenners,Hunchbacks and Cataphracts.

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I'm unable to imagine the deeps of moronity required to propose to move ballistic slots (in ANY mech) into central torso.Seriously guys,are you really that stupid?


Most of the posts in this thread are from previous patches with previous mechanics. I see way fewer Gaussapults on the field than I used to.

I would prefer to see the models changed to reflect the load outs, but moving the ballistic slots to the CT is the second best fix in my opinion.

It's always funny to me to see people who have put no money and very little time into this game acting like we should care about their opinions. I've been in beta since June. I've watched the devs implement fix after fix trying to balance the K2 cat.

How about you stop flaming people who know more about the subject than you ever will?

#103 Rocket2Uranus

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 10:46 AM

View Postcanned wolf, on 26 December 2012 - 10:38 AM, said:


Most of the posts in this thread are from previous patches with previous mechanics. I see way fewer Gaussapults on the field than I used to.

I would prefer to see the models changed to reflect the load outs, but moving the ballistic slots to the CT is the second best fix in my opinion.

It's always funny to me to see people who have put no money and very little time into this game acting like we should care about their opinions. I've been in beta since June. I've watched the devs implement fix after fix trying to balance the K2 cat.

How about you stop flaming people who know more about the subject than you ever will?


don't let forum "founder" tags only be the sign that people spent money.
people drop money for skins,mech slots and mechs.
lol... i didn't get any cool forum tag for spending money.

#104 FromHell2k

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 10:48 AM

View PostRocket2Uranus, on 26 December 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

don't let forum "founder" tags only be the sign that people spent money.
people drop money for skins,mech slots and mechs.
lol... i didn't get any cool forum tag for spending money.


Well, maybe he thought that the founders-pakcage included something like "skill" :)
It doesn't matter if you play the game for 1month or 1year. It matters how you expirience it now.

#105 canned wolf

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 11:09 AM

View PostRocket2Uranus, on 26 December 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

don't let forum "founder" tags only be the sign that people spent money.
people drop money for skins,mech slots and mechs.
lol... i didn't get any cool forum tag for spending money.


His post tells me everything I need to know about how much time he has spent on this game. If he knew anything he would have posted it to show how smart he is. Instead he just threw a little fit.

View PostFromHell2k, on 26 December 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:


Well, maybe he thought that the founders-pakcage included something like "skill" :)
It doesn't matter if you play the game for 1month or 1year. It matters how you expirience it now.


From what I've seen pugging, founders tend to kick the crap out of non-founders. Probably because we've been playing the game longer. Saying that experience doesn't matter is just silly. If you want to act all offended go for it. As soon as they put in an arena mode we can see who is right.

My main point was that there are plenty of people posting in this thread with valid ideas. Don't expect anyone to listen to your ideas if you can't be nice to them.

#106 Remnant John

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 11:17 AM

i, reading through this topic, and also being a long-time owner of an AC/20 cat, (i've had it since i started playing MWO a few months back!) i can vouch for the fact that they are very very strong, but not OP. they are (if you've ever brawled with ac20s in a TORSO) very very difficult to aim with the convergence point they have. their maximum range is also very low. most of the time ac cats run very small engines, all mine do anyway. my ac cat only goes 42kph maxed out. you can easily outrun and gun me down while i scream for not mounting lasers of some type.

TL;DR: they are very hard to aim in close quarters, have a low max range, and most ac cats have very small engines, so you can run away

#107 FromHell2k

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 11:26 AM

View Postcanned wolf, on 26 December 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:


His post tells me everything I need to know about how much time he has spent on this game. If he knew anything he would have posted it to show how smart he is. Instead he just threw a little fit.



From what I've seen pugging, founders tend to kick the crap out of non-founders. Probably because we've been playing the game longer. Saying that experience doesn't matter is just silly. If you want to act all offended go for it. As soon as they put in an arena mode we can see who is right.

My main point was that there are plenty of people posting in this thread with valid ideas. Don't expect anyone to listen to your ideas if you can't be nice to them.


Sorry, didn't want to offend you. I'am just sick&tired of reading "nerf nerf nerf", cause some players are just to stupid to counter something. Paper, Rock, Scissor, easy as that..

#108 canned wolf

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 12:34 PM

View PostFromHell2k, on 26 December 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:


Sorry, didn't want to offend you. I'am just sick&tired of reading "nerf nerf nerf", cause some players are just to stupid to counter something. Paper, Rock, Scissor, easy as that..

I'm not even sure that I back the statement that the K2 is OP'd any more. As I said, the devs have made a lot of changes in the past few months. It just really bugs me that the model doesn't match. I never backed the position that any of the other CAT's need nerfing.

No need to apologize, just remember that the same people you are telling to L2P today are the ones who will be reading your posts tomorrow.

#109 Vickdak

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:31 PM

The graphic of the Ac/20 would be a nice addition to the K2 and could help fix any unresolved issues with the dual ac/20, although I dont really believe there are any left.

#110 Aaron45

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:55 PM

I saw this Post comming when i pawned a bunch of peps in matches with my dual ac20 cat.

Cheers

#111 canned wolf

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 03:05 PM

View PostLegolaas, on 21 January 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

I saw this Post comming when i pawned a bunch of peps in matches with my dual ac20 cat.

Cheers


Did you see it coming in November? Cause, that's when this thread was opened.

#112 Aaron45

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 03:09 PM

View PostRemnant John, on 26 December 2012 - 11:17 AM, said:

i, reading through this topic, and also being a long-time owner of an AC/20 cat, (i've had it since i started playing MWO a few months back!) i can vouch for the fact that they are very very strong, but not OP. they are (if you've ever brawled with ac20s in a TORSO) very very difficult to aim with the convergence point they have. their maximum range is also very low. most of the time ac cats run very small engines, all mine do anyway. my ac cat only goes 42kph maxed out. you can easily outrun and gun me down while i scream for not mounting lasers of some type.

TL;DR: they are very hard to aim in close quarters, have a low max range, and most ac cats have very small engines, so you can run away

Thats it. But let the PPl start this OP Topics

View Postcanned wolf, on 21 January 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:


Did you see it coming in November? Cause, that's when this thread was opened.

No, but this thread has been re alived suddenly o.O lolz

#113 Tennex

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:54 PM

http://mwomercs.com/...pultac20apults/





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