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[Lightfoot]

I was looking for the Cataphract CTF-3D on Sarna and all I could find like that was the CTF-3X, a custom variant with a RAC-5. Well RACs are 3062 tech according to the data sheet, but the CTF-3X is linked to 3051.

So I ask you, what is that rotary AC in the CTF-3D's right arm?

[Orion ji]

http://mwowiki.org/w...itle=Cataphract

[Murphy7]

Just a pretty representation?

RAC's will be a while, which is fine by me. Would prefer they get away from the DDR unjamming mechanism anyway.

[Lightfoot]

Oh well, I hope it looks cool while running.

[Wingbreaker]

[Alois Hammer]

Lightfoot, on 19 November 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

I was looking for the Cataphract CTF-3D on Sarna and all I could find like that was the CTF-3X, a custom variant with a RAC-5. Well RACs are 3062 tech according to the data sheet, but the CTF-3X is linked to 3051.

So I ask you, what is that rotary AC in the CTF-3D's right arm?

It's either an LB-X AC/10 or an Ultra AC/5.

Model CTF-3D
Class Heavy

• 1xLB-X Autocannon/10
  
• 1xUltra AC-5
  
• 4xMedium Lasers

The specs for the CTF-3D are in the column directly below the Mech's picture.

Edited by Alois Hammer, 19 November 2012 - 11:38 AM.

[Nathan Foxbane]

@ OP That would be an Ultra AC5. They are often portrayed as both single and multi barrel. As a matter of fact all classes of autocannon have been portrayed in cannon art as single and multi barreled weapons including RACs. We will not be seeing RACs until the FedCom Civil War so it is a bit moot anyways.

[Black Ivan]

That is the Ultra AC5 of the variant.

[Angus McBeef]

Lightfoot, on 19 November 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

I was looking for the Cataphract CTF-3D on Sarna and all I could find like that was the CTF-3X, a custom variant with a RAC-5. Well RACs are 3062 tech according to the data sheet, but the CTF-3X is linked to 3051.

So I ask you, what is that rotary AC in the CTF-3D's right arm?

Looks just like the arm of one of the Dragon models with a UAC/5. Who said the 3D has an RAC just because the 3X does?

[Wooj]

Simple. Artistic License.

Actually look at it like this. In the Battletech world there is no such thing as a weapon called a AC5, just like in our world there is no weapon called a 9mm pistol. There is a CZ 75b, a Beretta 92FS, a Glock 17, ect. Each of these weapons look different from one another, but ballisticly they perform about the same.

Battletech has the same thing. A AC5 may me made by Defiance, or Armstrong, or GM, and each one of these weapons is going to look different from one another, but the do about the same damage, cause the same heat, and have the same range as the next guys AC5.

If I remember correctly there is even another layer of abstraction in BT. I can not remember the exact weapon, but I remember reading in one of the later technical manuals about a weapon that had a completely different fire mode that what is normally thought of... For instance, a Autocannon that shoots a very tight burst of lighter ammo could still be considered a AC5, since the damage, heat, ect, ends up being the same as a single shell from a larger weapon.

So in this case, just pretend it is a rare form of Ultra AC5 that uses rotating barrels that still just doesn't shoot fast enough to be considered a RAC5.

[Angus McBeef]

Wooj, on 19 November 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

If I remember correctly there is even another layer of abstraction in BT. I can not remember the exact weapon, but I remember reading in one of the later technical manuals about a weapon that had a completely different fire mode that what is normally thought of... For instance, a Autocannon that shoots a very tight burst of lighter ammo could still be considered a AC5, since the damage, heat, ect, ends up being the same as a single shell from a larger weapon.

"An Autocannon is a type of rapid-firing, auto-loading direct-fire ballistic weapon, firing HEAP (High-Explosive Armor-Piercing) or kinetic rounds at targets in bursts. It is, basically, a giant "machine gun" that fires predominantly cased explosive shells though models firing saboted high velocity kinetic energy penetrators or caseless ordnance do exist. Among the earliest tank/BattleMech scale weaponry produced, autocannons produce far less heat than energy weapons, but are considerably bulkier and are dependent upon limited stores of ammunition.
...
Caliber is fluff for the size of the barrel that the shell or shells are fired from and no standard caliber has been set for any of the classes of Autocannon. Autocannon in a class vary by manufacturer and model. With the fluffed number of shells and caliber being specified, no Autocannon has been specified to be one shell fired for each "round" or burst of fire. Probable exceptions are the 185 mm ChemJet Gun Autocannon/20 mounted on the Demolisher combat vehicle and Monitor Surface vessel or the 203 mm Ultra Autocannon/20 on the Cauldron Born A BattleMech." -- sarna.net

[clanwolf3050]

Lightfoot, on 19 November 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

So I ask you, what is that rotary AC in the CTF-3D's right arm?

A Rotary AC is an Autocannon that can shoot faster then an Ultra AC. As some others have pionted out that this bit of tech is years away from entering the game, as long as PGI keeps to the one real day = one BT day format.