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[waysted]

Why are new mechs released without actually a list of all their hardpoints by location? Instead the list we get is merely a total number of hardpoints on a mech, which alone is fairly uselss. On some mechs you can guess where the hardpoints might be, but you don't know.

[superbob]

You can try to read them from game files

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<Hardpoints SearchTable="Objects/mechs/hardpointsearchcriteria.xml">
 
	<!--CTF-3D-->
	<Hardpoint id="0">
		<!--Right Torso, Ballistic-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="LBXAutoCannon" AName="ctf_right_torso_3d_lbx"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_torso_3d_lbx"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="1">
		<!--Right Torso, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_right_torso_3d_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_torso_3d_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="2">
		<!--Left Torso, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_left_torso_3d_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_left_torso_3d_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="3">
		<!--Right Arm, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_1x_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_1x_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="4">
		<!--Right Arm, Ballistic-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="UltraAutoCannon" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_3d_ultra_ac5"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_3d_ultra_ac5"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="5">
		<!--Left Arm, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_3d_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_3d_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="7">
		<!--Left Torso, AMS-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="AntiMissileSystem" AName="ctf_left_torso_ams"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
 
	
	<!--CTF-1X-->
	<Hardpoint id="10">
		<!--Right Torso, Ballistic-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="AutoCannon10" AName="ctf_right_torso_1x_ac10"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_torso_1x_ac10"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="11">
		<!--Right Torso, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_right_torso_1x_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_torso_1x_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="12">
		<!--Left Torso, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_left_torso_1x_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_left_torso_1x_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="13">
		<!--Right Arm, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_1x_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_1x_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="PPC" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_1x_ppc"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_1x_ppc"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="15">
		<!--Left Arm, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_1x_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_hand"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="17">
		<!--Left Torso, AMS-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="AntiMissileSystem" AName="ctf_left_torso_ams"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
 
	<!--CTF-2X-->
	<Hardpoint id="20">
		<!--Right Torso, Ballistic-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="AutoCannon10" AName="ctf_right_torso_2x_ac10"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_torso_2x_ac10"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="21">
		<!--Right Torso, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_right_torso_2x_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_torso_2x_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="22">
		<!--Left Torso, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_left_torso_2x_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_left_torso_2x_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="23">
		<!--Right Arm, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="LargeLaser" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_2x_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_2x_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="25">
		<!--Left Arm, Missile-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="SRM" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_2x_srm"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_2x_srm"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="SRM" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_2x_srm"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_2x_srm"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="27">
		<!--Left Torso, AMS-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="AntiMissileSystem" AName="ctf_left_torso_ams"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
 
	<!--CTF-4X-->
	<Hardpoint id="30">
		<!--Head, Missile-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="SRM" AName="ctf_centre_torso_4x_srm"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_centre_torso_4x_srm"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>	
	<Hardpoint id="33">
		<!--Right Arm, Ballistic-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="AutoCannon" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_4x_ac5"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_4x_ac5"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="AutoCannon" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_4x_ac5"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_4x_ac5"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="35">
		<!--Left Arm, Ballistic-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="AutoCannon" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_4x_ac5"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_4x_ac5"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="AutoCannon" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_4x_ac5"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_4x_ac5"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>	
	<Hardpoint id="36">
		<!--Centre Torso, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="LargeLaser" AName="ctf_centre_torso_4x_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_centre_torso_4x_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="LargeLaser" AName="ctf_centre_torso_4x_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_centre_torso_4x_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="37">
		<!--Left Torso, AMS-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="AntiMissileSystem" AName="ctf_left_torso_ams"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
 
	<!--CTF-3L-->
	<Hardpoint id="40">
		<!--Right Torso, Ballistic-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="LBXAutoCannon" AName="ctf_right_torso_1x_ac10"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_torso_1x_ac10"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="41">
		<!--Right Torso, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_right_torso_3l_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_torso_3l_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="42">
		<!--Left Torso, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_left_torso_3l_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_left_torso_3l_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="43">
		<!--Right Arm, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="MediumLaser" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_1x_laser"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_1x_laser"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="PPC" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_3l_erppc"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_right_arm_forearm_3l_erppc"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="45">
		<!--Left Arm, Energy-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="Energy" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_3l_pulse"/>
			<Attachment search="Default" AName="ctf_left_arm_forearm_3l_pulse"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
	<Hardpoint id="47">
		<!--Left Torso, AMS-->
		<WeaponSlot>
			<Attachment search="AntiMissileSystem" AName="ctf_left_torso_ams"/>
		</WeaponSlot>
	</Hardpoint>
 
	
</Hardpoints>

Or wait for the reference sheets to be updated.

[EnigmaNL]

Which game file should we read?

[superbob]

Piranha Games\MechWarrior Online\Game\Objects.pak\Objects\mechs\cataphract\cataphract-hardpoints.xml

And similar locations for other mechs, but all other ones are already in the reference sheets. You can also look up stats for pretty much everything if you look through the pak files, sometimes even get a sneak peek at whats coming .

Edited by superbob, 20 November 2012 - 01:33 PM.

[Name60014]

It will probably be handled under the UI improvements they're working on. Eventually.

[Bhael Fire]

Red Leaves, on 20 November 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

It will probably be handled under the UI improvements they're working on. Eventually.

Yep. They have a mockup of their new GUI floating around somewhere...can't remember where I saw it. It has more detailed weapon and armor stats.

[Bhael Fire]

Found it:

http://3.bp.blogspot...weaponStats.jpg


From here:

http://wot-ro.blogsp...wos-issues.html

[C4RNAGE]

We need some info about how many slots got the mech before you bay it, not only critical location but the size of the critical location in slots because for now is not enough info.
example:
-1 missile critical, but you can't fit there any rockets, but only 1 slot type weapon
-2 missile critical, and will be only 2 slots and still can't fit like LRM 20

this is confusing information so please ad some info about how many slots per critical(weapon)location in arms and torso, will be perfect.

Edited by C4RNAGE, 11 December 2012 - 10:45 AM.