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#41 Weaselball

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:48 PM

View PostBlackSquirrel, on 20 November 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:

Kudos on the response time. Is the box smaller or the cockpit its self?

What i'm getting at is as much as I want to buy one tonight and try it out... Where do I shoot the other guy now?


My guess would be the center-panel of the cockpit - much like the atlas eye-hole or the center-panel on the catapult.

Or just core him. That works too :(

#42 wanderer

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:54 PM

View PostWolfways, on 20 November 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Seriously? The Cataphract gets a hotfix for a problem the Catapult has had for months?


The Catapult actually has a smaller hitbox than the 'Phract did. In fact, I think it was possibly bigger than the pre-fix Atlas, and back in closed beta we were shooting those things in the noggin without visible effort....only said hitbox wasn't smack in the center of mass like the 'Phract cockpit is.

It may very well have been the easiest 'Mech to headshot in the history of MWO.

#43 KosherHamSammich

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:25 PM

Has the hotpatch been placed yet? I just played 4-5 games with my 1X and was headshotted at least once.

The whole front of the mech feels way to fragile.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:29 PM

View PostAziz Ozriel, on 20 November 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

Has the hotpatch been placed yet? I just played 4-5 games with my 1X and was headshotted at least once.

The whole front of the mech feels way to fragile.

Paul noted that it takes hours for all of the servers to cycle through and get the patch. I'd say if you're getting headshot after about 10pm PST it's your own fault. Before then it MIGHT be the bugged hitbox.

#45 Vila deVere

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:31 PM

Outstanding... Something to save this patch after all! Now, get your "hot fix" team working on 8 man teams. If you can't get a decent match maker, at least alternate patches with silly 4 man teams and full 8 man teams. :ph34r:

Trying to remain optimistic here!

#46 dF0X

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:40 PM

View PostBrien, on 20 November 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

How about a hot fix for phase 2 roll it back before phase 1 and tell the pugs to calm down and wait 2 weeks. It is not that long

Why don't you wait 2 weeks. It isn't that long.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:44 PM

And here I was about to suggest that the Devs pilot cataphracts for tomorrow's "Piranha Hunt" event... Would had given them a pretty good idea on how obvious this bug was.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:11 PM

View PostTruePoindexter, on 20 November 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Paul noted that it takes hours for all of the servers to cycle through and get the patch. I'd say if you're getting headshot after about 10pm PST it's your own fault. Before then it MIGHT be the bugged hitbox.



Good to know. Thanks.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:17 PM

Thanks

#50 Brien

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:09 PM

View PostDesrtfox, on 20 November 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

Why don't you wait 2 weeks. It isn't that long.


Please know of what you speak before you comment. Two weeks ago they told us to be calm and patient that the 4 man groups would only last two weeks. That ended Nov 20th, even PGI said the PUG QQ about premades was unfounded, so they broke something that did not need fixing, and are making it worse.

#51 Kanaric

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:10 PM

View PostBrien, on 20 November 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

Please know of what you speak before you comment. Two weeks ago they told us to be calm and patient that the 4 man groups would only last two weeks. That ended Nov 20th, even PGI said the PUG QQ about premades was unfounded, so they broke something that did not need fixing, and are making it worse.

This

#52 MustrumRidcully

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:02 AM

Neat what you all can do with the game.

#53 AC

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:03 AM

View PostPaul Inouye, on 20 November 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Being hotfixed right now.

This is a server side fix and you will not need to patch your client.


Some faith has been restored! Woot Woot!

#54 Reoh

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:03 AM

I thought it looked very large in the screenshots and figured this might happen. Any confirmation yet as to what the new hitbox is? I'm presuming the central or top panel?

#55 QuantumButler

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:26 AM

View Postwanderer, on 20 November 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:


The Catapult actually has a smaller hitbox than the 'Phract did. In fact, I think it was possibly bigger than the pre-fix Atlas, and back in closed beta we were shooting those things in the noggin without visible effort....only said hitbox wasn't smack in the center of mass like the 'Phract cockpit is.

It may very well have been the easiest 'Mech to headshot in the history of MWO.


The Catapult head hitbox has recently shrunk a little too, i think, at least it seems to have, I rarely get hitshot in my cats anymore unless I'm being real dumb and not moving at all.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:28 AM

View PostDesrtfox, on 20 November 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

Why don't you wait 2 weeks. It isn't that long.

Because I have a suspicion that those 2 weeks will become 4 weeks, not to mention that the new maps/mods disappeared without any updates which probably means will not be getting them for at least a month, else they would have mentioned them in the 4.12 update

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:27 AM

DId they fix the bug now ?
because i die within 5 secs.... in like most of the matches

#58 Dr Icchan

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 11:04 PM

The Cataphract head hitbox is too small now and there is no obvious way to find out where in the head it is. If you're going to "fix" the hitbox, fix the 3d model as well to reflect the changes.
I've tried shooting at an AFK cata' in the head with lasers in all of the glass panels, but not one of them scored a hit in the head.

But then again, my lasers sometimes seem to miss immobile targets completely, even when I'm standing still also...

Edited by Dr Icchan, 17 December 2012 - 11:05 PM.






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