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[Jacmac]

Any disappointment about the lack-luster patch is totally overshadowed by the sheer number of players that turned out. NGNG was packed, so was Comstar NA and others. I assume the huge turn out is partially the new mech, but maybe also the anticipation that 8-mans would be back today.

It's too bad they are not, because the games I played as a solo non-voice pug were total steamrolls by one side or the other. While playing with a group we did not lose a single match and most of the wins were 7-1, 8-1, and a few 8-0. I imagine the complaints will be rolling in for days after this.

Edited by Jacmac, 20 November 2012 - 09:54 PM.

[Broceratops]

they'll run out of pugs who are willing to play this game at some point in time

[Operant]

I'm starting to enjoy pug stomping. After all, they are to blame for the current matchmaking problems.

Pugs whined. They got what they wanted. Since it only takes 4 organized players to smoke a group of 8 pugs they've effectively doubled the amount of premades out there.

[Scratx]

I think there's also, primarily, the whole "Cool, new mech!" effect going on.

I'm waiting at least a day before I buy one.

[Soy]

Operant by that logic if pugs feel their enjoyment is diminished by premades then they take solace in the notion that 8 man premades being split up diminishes their potential for social enjoyment. Which is a fact because the only reason a premade would enjoy stomping pugs is the social comraderie.

But what do I know I've only premaded in games for the past 11 years, so.

Pugs have it bad in this beta, there is no reason to talk smack about them.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Operant, on 20 November 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

I'm starting to enjoy pug stomping. After all, they are to blame for the current matchmaking problems.

Pugs whined. They got what they wanted. Since it only takes 4 organized players to smoke a group of 8 pugs they've effectively doubled the amount of premades out there.

The difference is that some of them might actually be on our team now and get us wins instead of just loses. With 8 team vs 0, they will only ever get you loses because they fill up the queue in advance, leaving you as an enemy, always. Now you have a fair chance to see them as allies in addition to enemies and actually get wins out of them too. Even if your win rate is still 100%, you're handing out almost as many wins to others as loses to solo queuers. Before, this wasn't the case because you'd only ever be an enemy to them, never an ally.

[CocoaJin]

Operant, on 20 November 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

I'm starting to enjoy pug stomping. After all, they are to blame for the current matchmaking problems.

Pugs whined. They got what they wanted. Since it only takes 4 organized players to smoke a group of 8 pugs they've effectively doubled the amount of premades out there.

"Ha, take that face!", said the guy has he cut off his own nose. Contempt of PuGs/noobs is a great way of detriorating the very game you enjoy.

Its like chipping away at the base of the dam to remove stains in the concrete.

Edited by CocoaJin, 20 November 2012 - 06:37 PM.

[kragmoor]

I have made the best of 4 man premades. the pugs make a great diversion while my group caps and they get a win out of it.

[Franchi]

Yeah me and some palls picked the best mechs to steamroll with and just run over the pugs, no 8 man drops so you WILL FEEL OUR PAIN!!!!

[Serphrim]

Operant, on 20 November 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

I'm starting to enjoy pug stomping. After all, they are to blame for the current matchmaking problems.

Pugs whined. They got what they wanted. Since it only takes 4 organized players to smoke a group of 8 pugs they've effectively doubled the amount of premades out there.

You're an ignorant s** of a b****. I just started playing this game, i have no idea about the community or the idea of premades, I came here to find out why i'm losing 80% of matches even tho i score highly every game... Then I read things from people like YOU.

Not one to usually post on forums I'm compelled to tell you you're a d*** and I hope you enjoyed patting yourself and your lil buddies on the back all night long. you think you'll be able to play this game AT ALL without these pugs you mock? Hah! dumb as they come!

Mod's might delete this post, but this guy above, this guy is how communities die!

[197mmCannon]

Operant, on 20 November 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

I'm starting to enjoy pug stomping. After all, they are to blame for the current matchmaking problems.

Pugs whined. They got what they wanted. Since it only takes 4 organized players to smoke a group of 8 pugs they've effectively doubled the amount of premades out there.

and the douche of the year award goes to....

[Vila deVere]

Operant, on 20 November 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

I'm starting to enjoy pug stomping. After all, they are to blame for the current matchmaking problems.

Pugs whined. They got what they wanted. Since it only takes 4 organized players to smoke a group of 8 pugs they've effectively doubled the amount of premades out there.

We told 'em so....

[197mmCannon]

Serphrim, on 20 November 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

You're an ignorant s** of a b****. I just started playing this game, i have no idea about the community or the idea of premades, I came here to find out why i'm losing 80% of matches even tho i score highly every game... Then I read things from people like YOU.

Not one to usually post on forums I'm compelled to tell you you're a d*** and I hope you enjoyed patting yourself and your lil buddies on the back all night long. you think you'll be able to play this game AT ALL without these pugs you mock? Hah! dumb as they come!

Mod's might delete this post, but this guy above, this guy is how communities die!

qft.

He'll have no one to play.

people like him just move on the the new game of the season anyways.

Bluten, on 20 November 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

The difference is that some of them might actually be on our team now and get us wins instead of just loses. With 8 team vs 0, they will only ever get you loses because they fill up the queue in advance, leaving you as an enemy, always. Now you have a fair chance to see them as allies in addition to enemies and actually get wins out of them too. Even if your win rate is still 100%, you're handing out almost as many wins to others as loses to solo queuers. Before, this wasn't the case because you'd only ever be an enemy to them, never an ally.

Your wasting your time.

He's too dense to understand.

[Vila deVere]

Serphrim, on 20 November 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

You're an ignorant s** of a b****. I just started playing this game, i have no idea about the community or the idea of premades, I came here to find out why i'm losing 80% of matches even tho i score highly every game... Then I read things from people like YOU.

Not one to usually post on forums I'm compelled to tell you you're a d*** and I hope you enjoyed patting yourself and your lil buddies on the back all night long. you think you'll be able to play this game AT ALL without these pugs you mock? Hah! dumb as they come!

Mod's might delete this post, but this guy above, this guy is how communities die!

You're missing the point, Sport. The current situation is becuase the Pugs were complaining. I can almost gaurantee that the poster you're raging against is being sarcastic. Most team players, such as myself, would prefer playing against other teams. But for whatever reason, PGI diddn't prioritze matchmaking, or CW (which would be the better way to fix this problem). So here we are, with a "solution" that makes NO ONE happy.

[Sevaradan]

Operant, on 20 November 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

I'm starting to enjoy pug stomping. After all, they are to blame for the current matchmaking problems.

Pugs whined. They got what they wanted. Since it only takes 4 organized players to smoke a group of 8 pugs they've effectively doubled the amount of premades out there.

This, gonna abuse the **** out of em tonight. I plan toshare my disappointment at PGI with them by stomping em into oblivion

Serphrim, on 20 November 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

You're an ignorant s** of a b****. I just started playing this game, i have no idea about the community or the idea of premades, I came here to find out why i'm losing 80% of matches even tho i score highly every game... Then I read things from people like YOU.

So, hes the ignorant one even though your admitting to not understanding the community etc.

Edited by Sevaradan, 20 November 2012 - 07:03 PM.

[Operant]

Yeah, you may not like what I said but the truth is that I'm being forced to play with you pugs.

PGI has made it practically impossible to drop 8v8 against another merc corp. Sure, we can drop 4v4 against each other (rofl if you manage to get into the same game) but then it's impossible to take seriously because both teams have 4 random pugs running around like fools.

This is a team game and the real draw is premade vs premade combat but we can't even have that because we have to hold the pug's hands so they can win.

[Budor]

Pugrolled 2 premades in a row last 2 games...

[CocoaJin]

Vila deVere, on 20 November 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

You're missing the point, Sport. The current situation is becuase the Pugs were complaining. I can almost gaurantee that the poster you're raging against is being sarcastic. Most team players, such as myself, would prefer playing against other teams. But for whatever reason, PGI diddn't prioritze matchmaking, or CW (which would be the better way to fix this problem). So here we are, with a "solution" that makes NO ONE happy.

Its a compromise...it may not be what either side wants, but until the coming solution is realized, its the best option for the well being of the whole community.

The mature and adult thing is to look past one's own nose and realize the wisdom of the temporary 4-man max and stick it out like a man and for the benefit of the whole(thats what grown ups do...supposedly). Spiting PuGs for the failure of the devs to provide proper match making is short sighted, juvenile and self destructive to health of the community and the game.

Great thinking Sport!

[Apoc1138]

Operant, on 20 November 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

This is a team game and the real draw is premade vs premade combat but we can't even have that because we have to hold the pug's hands so they can win.

Yes, and it is an upcoming feature, just like all the other upcoming features, QQing about it will not make it be ready any quicker

[Operant]

CocoaJin, on 20 November 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Spiting PuGs for the failure of the devs to provide proper match making is short sighted, juvenile and self destructive to health of the community and the game.

I disagree. Spiting pugs is actually the perfect strategy.

Maybe if the pugs start demanding game lobbies for premades then we'd get them.