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[Corvus Antaka]

Download radeon pro http://www.radeonpro.info/en-US/

set flip queue size to 0 (default is 3)

turn off vsync or turn it on and force triple buffering (depends, performance may vary, test)

tweak other radeon pro settings as desired for performance/visuals.

adjust ccc settings to match as needed.

Google is your friend.

EDIT the flip queue fix works for nvidia cards too with rivatuner or msi afterburner.

Edited by Colonel Pada Vinson, 22 November 2012 - 02:29 PM.

[Tacophagist]

The flip queue tweak alleviated things a bit, I'm no longer dropping to 5-10 FPS in combat. Still nowhere near pre-patch levels though, capping out around 15-20, but it's playable.

Thanks for posting this.

Edited by Tacophagist, 22 November 2012 - 02:37 PM.

[Dr B00t]

great find thanks...i have a 4870...seems to run fine other than a little ghosting sometimes

[Corvus Antaka]

This may fix the ghosting problem. it worked for me and seriously improved performance.

DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK AND MAKE A BACKUP!!!!! (not that dangeorus, but i wont take responsibility for any damage you might cause to your registry) tip: you can use find...in registry to locate 4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318

;HOW TO : DISABLE TEMPORAL AA

;Temporal AA is the AA method Crytek used in CE3, and you might have noticed, one of its biggest drawbacks is ghosting. When something moves, there is some odd blur ;after it. That's the effect of TAA. There is NO WAY to disable this. But, it is possible : by deleting the registries related to Temporal AA. WARNING : I TAKE NO ;RESPONSABILITY IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG.

;Open regedit and browse to : /MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/Class/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0000 OR /0001, check the 2D driver version in CCC2.

;Look for anything related to TemporalAAMultiplier. I will check tomorrow. Delete anything related to Temporal AA. Then browse to ;/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/Class/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0000(1)/UMD and look again for anything related to Temporal AA. NOTE : if you like ;temporal AA, backup the registries. This COMPLETELY gets rid of ANY TAA in ANY game.

Edited by Colonel Pada Vinson, 22 November 2012 - 11:12 PM.

[MungFuSensei]

This fixed the FPS issue, but now I have no textures except the ground and skybox (with the models being faintly visible in contrast to the sky, completely transparent yet responding to the light like glass). What do? I remember this happening before, and going into Catalyst and setting everything to Software Controlled to fix it, but...well...maybe I'll try that. Do chime in if you know the cause, though.

[Corvus Antaka]

current user.cfg file

Spoiler

;*********************************Independently added items*********************************************
;Polling Times
;sys_MaxFPS = 60
;i_xinput_poll_time = 1
;Disables performance expensive float exceptions.
;e_ram_maps = 1
;sys_float_exceptions = 0
e_ambient_occlusion = 0
;default high settings
;r_MultiThreaded = 1
r_GeomInstancing=1
e_decals=1
;e_DecalsHitCache=1
e_particles_thread = 1
gpu_particle_physics = 1
;new test commands
r_ColorGradingDOF = 0
e_flocks = 0
r_Rain = 0
d3d9_TextureFilter = trilinear
e_lods = 1
r_MultiGPU = 0
e_vegetation_static_instancing = 1
e_hw_occlusion_culling_objects = 1
e_precache_level = 1
ca_UseFacialAnimation = 0
r_MotionBlur = 0
e_dynamic_light = 0
;gp_mech_sound_system_disable_bitchinbetty = 0
gp_mech_view_zoom_transitiontime = 0.03
;Field of View inside Cockpit (Default:75)
cl_fov = 85
;Mouse Options
i_mouse_smooth = 0
i_mouse_accel=0
;mouse speed (working - 0.1 - windows mouse at 6 notch, 1200 dpi mouse raise/lower as needed)
cl_sensitivity = 0.1
;MSAA fix for ATI - toggle as needed.
r_PostMSAA = 0
r_PostMSAAMode = 0
r_FSAA = 0
=================================================================================================
;Environment
e_WaterOceanFFT = 1
e_WaterTessellationAmount = 1
e_WaterTessellationAmountX = 10
e_WaterTessellationAmountY = 10
e_WaterTessellationSwathWidth = 10
r_WaterCaustics = 0
r_WaterReflections = 0
r_WaterReflectionsQuality = 0
r_WaterReflectionsMinVisiblePixelsUpdate = 0
r_WaterTessellationHW = 0
r_WaterUpdateDistance = 0
r_WaterUpdateFactor = 0
e_DynamicLightsMaxEntityLights = 7
e_GI = 1
e_GIAmount = 0.6
e_GIMaxDistance = 50
e_GINumCascades = 2
e_SkyType = 1
e_SkyUpdateRate = 0
e_TerrainAo = 0
e_TerrainNormalMap = 0
e_VegetationUseTerrainColor = 0
r_DetailDistance = 0
r_DetailTextures = 0
r_ssdo = 0
r_SSAO = 0
r_SSAOQuality = 0
r_SSAODownscale = 0
r_refraction = 0
r_SSReflections = 0
r_Beams = 3
r_BeamsDistFactor = 0.5
r_BeamsMaxSlices = 64
e_Clouds = 0
r_CloudsUpdateAlways = 0
r_Reflections = 0
;GameEffects
i_lighteffects = 1
g_ragdollUnseenTime = 2
g_ragdollMinTime = 4
g_ragdollDistance = 10
;ObjectDetail
e_ObjQuality = 1
e_DecalsAllowGameDecals = 1
e_DecalsLifeTimeScale = 1
e_DecalsOverlapping = 0
e_Dissolve = 2
e_LodRatio = 4
e_Lods = 1
e_LodMin = 0
e_MaxViewDistSpecLerp = 0.5
e_OcclusionCullingViewDistRatio = 0
e_ProcVegetation = 1
e_streamCgf = 0
e_VegetationBending = 0
e_VegetationMinSize = 0.5
e_VegetationSpritesDistanceCustomRatioMin = 0.6
e_VegetationSpritesDistanceRatio = 1
e_ViewDistMin = 10
e_ViewDistRatio = 100
e_ViewDistRatioCustom = 100
e_ViewDistRatioDetail = 20
e_ViewDistRatioLights = 20
e_ViewDistRatioVegetation = 30
e_TerrainDetailMaterialsViewDistXY = 1536
e_TerrainDetailMaterialsViewDistZ = 128
e_TerrainOcclusionCullingMaxDist = 0
ca_AttachmentCullingRation = 120
ca_DrawFaceAttachments = 0
ca_useDecals = 1
es_DebrisLifetimeScale = 0.6
i_rejecteffects = 1
e_Tessellation = 0
e_DecalsForceDeferred = 1
r_DrawNearZRange = 0.04
;Particles
;new
e_particles_max_count = 3
;e_particles = 1
e_particles_max_emitter_draw_screen = 1
e_particles_lod = 0.5
r_UseParticlesRefraction = 0
;new
e_ParticlesQuality = 1
e_ParticlesLights = 1
e_ParticlesMaxScreenFill = 32
e_ParticlesMinDrawPixels = 3
e_ParticlesMotionBlur = 0
e_ParticlesObjectCollisions = 1
r_UseParticlesHalfRes = 1
r_UseSoftParticles = 0
;Physics
g_breakage_particles_limit = 80
g_joint_breaking = 1
g_tree_cut_reuse_dist = 0
e_CullVegActivation = 0
e_FoliageWindActivationDist = 0
e_PhysFoliage = 0
e_PhysOceanCell = 0.5
p_gravity_z = -36.3
p_joint_damage_accum = 2
p_joint_damage_accum_threshold = 0.2
p_max_MC_iters = 4000
p_max_object_splashes = 3
p_max_substeps_large_group = 3
p_num_bodies_large_group = 50
p_splash_dist0 = 7
p_splash_dist1 = 30
p_splash_force0 = 10
p_splash_force1 = 100
p_splash_vel0 = 4.5
p_splash_vel1 = 10
v_vehicle_quality = 2
es_MaxPhysDist = 50
es_MaxPhysDistInvisible = 25
;PostProcessing
r_ColorGrading = 0
r_DepthOfField = 0
r_EyeAdaptationBase = 1
r_EyeAdaptationFactor = 0.85
r_EyeAdaptationSpeed = 4
r_GlowAnamorphicFlares = 0
r_HDRBloomMul = 0.9
r_HDRBlueShift = 0
r_HDRBrightLevel = 0.95
r_HDRBrightOffset = 10
r_HDRBrightThreshold = 6
r_HDREyeAdaptionCache = 30
r_HDRGrainAmount = 0
r_HDRLevel = 3
r_HDROffset = 10
r_HDRRendering = 1
r_MotionBlur = 0
r_MotionBlurMaxViewDist = 0
r_PostProcessHUD3DCache = 30
r_RainMaxViewDist_Deferred = 30
r_Sunshafts = 1
r_UseEdgeAA = 0
;Shading
q_Renderer = 3
q_ShaderFX = 3
q_ShaderGeneral = 3
q_ShaderGlass = 3
q_ShaderHDR = 3
q_ShaderIce = 3
q_ShaderMetal = 3
q_ShaderPostProcess = 0
q_ShaderShadow = 0
q_ShaderSky = 3
q_ShaderTerrain = 3
q_ShaderVegetation = 3
q_ShaderWater = 3
;Shadows
e_Shadows = 0
e_GsmCache = 0
e_GsmLodsNum = 0
e_GsmRange = 0
e_ParticlesShadows = 0
e_ShadowsCastViewDistRatio = 0
e_ShadowsMaxTexRes = 0
e_ShadowsOnAlphaBlend = 0
e_ShadowsResScale = 0
e_ShadowsTessellateCascades = 0
r_ShadowBlur = 0
r_ShadowJittering = 0
r_ShadowsPCFiltering = 0
r_ShadowsUseClipVolume = 0
r_FogShadows = 0
;Sound
s_MPEGDecoders = 32
s_CacheSize = 50
s_FormatSampleRate = 44100
s_Obstruction = 2
s_ObstructionAccuracy = 0
s_ObstructionUpdate = 1
s_ReverbType = 0
s_SoundMoodsDSP = 0
s_VariationLimiter = 0.3
s_FormatType = 2
s_MaxChannels = 64
;Textures
r_DynTexAtlasCloudsMaxSize = 32
r_DynTexAtlasSpritesMaxSize = 32
r_DynTexMaxSize = 50
r_EnvCMResolution = 0
r_EnvTexResolution = 1
r_EnvTexUpdateInterval = 1
r_ImposterRatio = 1
r_TexSkyResolution = 0
r_TexAtlasSize = 1024
r_TexMinAnisotropy = 0
r_TexBumpResolution = 0
r_TexResolution = 1
r_VegetationSpritesTexRes = 32
r_TexturesStreaming = 0

enabling geometry instancing on older radeon cards (big fps boost)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0000]
"GI_NA"="0"

reload ccc.exe after changing this, check gemometry instancing in CCC.

Mung - you should not be having problems from diasbling temporal AA that would cause you to lose textures. try disabling all AA and seeing if you still have issues.

[MungFuSensei]

I didn't disable the temporal AA. Never had a problem with it, so I skipped that step. Just did what you said in your first post. I went back to catalyst and set everything to software controlled (which has fixed the no textures bug for me before), but that overrode what I did in radeonpro. Poop.

[Aztec2Step]

Omg dude, awesome find, just increased my fps in heavy combat by about 8-10 frames from around 15, thanks so much!

[Skadi]

Sort of worked, my fps is still highly unstable, its jumping wildly from 5-20 fps.

Edited by Skadi, 23 November 2012 - 01:28 AM.

[ElcomeSoft]

http://forums.guru3d...ad.php?t=322031

Latest Radeon Pro updates. I think the download on the site is still an old version, though I could be quite wrong there.

Will test with my HD6870 (single and CrossfireX). Might steady the ship.

[Corvus Antaka]

Skadi, on 23 November 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:

Sort of worked, my fps is still highly unstable, its jumping wildly from 5-20 fps.

Same here..im in a better place than post-patch, but still sitting a good 10 FPS with stability issues worse than pre-patch when I was hitting 40 FPS on forest colony snow & caustic and getting a very good & smooth gaming experience.

Hopefully in between these patchwork fixes & upcoming fixes from PGI to bring us back to where we where we will finally get this issue resolved.

Hang in there people.

Edited by Colonel Pada Vinson, 23 November 2012 - 12:24 PM.

[KerenskyClone]

Thanks for the tip OP, will try the Flip Queue when I get home from work today!

Panda Vision: Im getting the same problem you are, although I had that prepatch also its a lot more noticable now.

HD 6870 here

[p4r4g0n]

+1 OP, Radeon Pro is helping a little with smoothing out the FPS without the crazy dips for me. Still experimenting with it so hopefully will get better results. However, FPS may still be lower than when I started 2 patches back I think (wasn't tracking FPS back then). Sure seemed a lot smoother.

Didn't notice any fps change between torso twist & using A & D but was doing it standing still. Can't figure out how to run in a straight line if you turn the legs with A & D.

Edit: After much tweaking, monitoring with Win7 Resource Monitor, GPU-Z, I have given up as my conclusion is that the sub-par fps is software related not hardware. Nonetheless, RadeonPro was helpful as it did have a couple of tweaks to try out.

Edited by p4r4g0n, 29 November 2012 - 11:18 PM.

[Vercinaigh]

What do I tell it to monitor? I have tried adding MWO into it, but it doesn't seem to hook into any of it.....

Used this prog for years now, works for all my other ****, but not this game for whatever reason.

Edited by Vercinaigh, 29 November 2012 - 10:55 PM.

[KerenskyClone]

After extensive testing, this fix does not work.

[T3N5H1]

anyone can tell probs with cards of the 7xxx series?

[locilocisu]

This added stability for me. Less problems with HUD and crashing after change

[PictishWolf]

Found out about RadeonPro elsewhere but having trouble figuring out what I need to set to what for it to work with MWO. Would be great if someone could write a tutorial. Specifically, how to set it up so that it uses the MWO profile when I start the game. What options did you change and to what? Thanks in advance.

[AlphaPiAlpha]

Would like some advices, too. Which settings to touch or what not.. what is good for the cryengine? Do I set it globaly or a profile for MWO?

[Acid Phreak]

i recommend using "ATI Tray Tools"

there u can also set the flip queue and this tool have more tweaking options.

but like p4r4g0n said;

p4r4g0n, on 23 November 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

Edit: After much tweaking, monitoring with Win7 Resource Monitor, GPU-Z, I have given up as my conclusion is that the sub-par fps is software related not hardware. Nonetheless, RadeonPro was helpful as it did have a couple of tweaks to try out.

Edited by Acid Phreak, 17 December 2012 - 01:32 AM.