17 replies to this topic

[ShadowThunder77]

can someone help me decide between gauss rifle and ER PPC??

[Sug]

Gauss rifle.

[soarra]

what mech?

[Dethl0k]

gauss rifle no matter what mech

[Roughneck45]

gauss, every time

[Redshift2k5]

If you want long range, gauss rifle is your tool of choice. It depends on some other factors, though. Few mechs can mount two Gauss rifle effectively, but many can mount two ERPPC. It wil depend on what speed you want to move at, what tonnage the mech is, etc.

It would help to know more about what mech you want and what exactly you want to do with it.

[Thuzel]

Depends on how far out your talking, so it's hard to say at this point. There are supposed to be significant re-balances for larger weapons on the way.

The gauss rifle is going to become "fragile" in the words of the devs, while PPC's and ER-PPC's will probably see some heat reduction and emp effects added in. No one really knows if those will be significant enough to change the landscape, but it's worth a thought if you're still saving up.

[SaXoN UK1]

Streaks....no wait, Gauss.

Edited by SaXoN UK1, 23 November 2012 - 08:39 AM.

[Viper69]

Yeah, gauss every time. Unless you can fit both, then take gauss and another weapon besides PPCs.

[Boozifer]

Given the chance you'd be on the opposing team in a match I'd recommend the ER PPC. [insert troll face here!]

But considering the chance you could just as well end up on my team during a match I would warmly recommend the Gauss such as things are now.

A quick comparison to help you decide:

Gauss:

15 damage - 15 tons - 7 slots - 1 heat per shot - 1980m max range (660 optimal) - requires ammo, but virtually no heatsinks

ER PPC:

10 damage - 7 tons - 3 slots - 13 heat per shot - 1620m max range (810 optimal) - requires more heatsinks than you can viably fit.


The Gauss does more damage, for less heat, but for more slots and tonnage up front. However, the only addition you need is ammo.
The ER PPC does less damage, for WAY more heat, but for less slots and tonnage up front. However, you'd need so many heatsinks in order to fire the ER PPC effectively that the slots and tonnage advantage is completely lost.

The total tonnage and slots needed for each weapon was very accurately covered in another thread on these forums, and if my memory serves me the Gauss landed on 18 tons to be effective (ammo and all), while the PPC (not even the ER version) ended up at 17 tons due to all the heatsinks. The ER PPC would require even more heatsinks and loses by default.

That means that for ER PPCs you not only do 5 less damage per shot, but also need more slots and tonnage in order to use it as often as a Gauss.

Edited by Boozifer, 23 November 2012 - 08:45 AM.

[ShadowThunder77]

right now i've got my eye on a cataphract as the mech im saving up for

[icey]

i actually ran two ER PPCs in my founders hunch during the master grind, and im pretty sure its more effective than a single gauss - no ammo to cram in, and youre still 50% effective after you get de-humped (which happens ALL THE TIME)

problem is that two ER PPCs, endo and DHS cost way more than a gauss ;/

Edited by icey, 23 November 2012 - 09:09 AM.

[Icebound]

Best weapons are as follows:

Long range: Gauss rifle
Medium range: UAC5 Gauss rifle
Short range: Gauss rifle

[Xigunder Blue]

Ummm...lots of technical anecdotes and cute remarks etc...I might suggest you try both and see which one YOU are better at getting hits and/or damage with in game. Then go with that one. Empiracle rather than anecdotal data.

[Araevin Teshurr]

The Gauss rifle is sux.
ER PPC is AwEsOmE!!!! No Ammo! Lighter!
Just needs a naked chick painted on the side!!!!

[Sug]

Relaed, on 23 November 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

The Gauss rifle is sux.
ER PPC is AwEsOmE!!!! No Ammo! Lighter!
Just needs a naked chick painted on the side!!!!

I would take a legged Centurion over an Awsome.

[Viper69]

Sug, on 23 November 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

I would take a legged Centurion over an Awsome.

I could take one too, just shoot it in the other leg.

[OneManWar]

I like to play non-standard builds (I hate playing Flavour of the month or anything really considered OP). I find I get more personal satisfaction when I kill someone with a waepon people consider weaker, then I know it was actually skill.

Last night I was running a Cataphracts with an AC/20 (3 tons of ammo) and an ER PPC, no other weapons. I was pulling on average 400-700 damage a game. Say what you will, maybe I'd have done better with a gauss and a large laser, but I had fun with those. Plus when they eventually give them a boost, I'll be tearing off heads left and right!

But to each their own.