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[Gwenaelle Focht]

Hiya fellow Lyrans,

The Lyran Commonwealth boasts some of the most decorated training centres in the Inner Sphere with some of them dating back to the times of the Star League such as The Nagelring, the Sanglamore Academy, the Coventry Military Academy (CMA), the Royal New Capetown Military Academy (RNCMA), the Melissa Steiner Martial Academy of Bolan (MSMA), the Alarion Naval Academy (ANA), and the War College of Buena.

Would you like to have enrollment in a military academy implemented in MWO and if so, which of the above mentioned colleges would you want to join and why?

How would you like the combat training program in the Lyran Commonwealth Armed Forces (LCAF) to be structured and which components should such a training feature?

If offered, would you consider joining any of the groups of the Lyran Intelligence Corps (LIC) and if so, which one would you prefer to work for and why (Lohengrin, Propaganda, Norns, Diplomatic Guard/Corps, Loki Espionage, Bodians Espionage, Molehunters Espionage, or Heimdall)?

What would you ultimately hope to get out of the LCAF combat training and how, do you think, does the LCAF training compare to those applied/possible in other Houses of the Inner Sphere (try to make a realistic and not a cocky statement)?

Cheers in advance for your input and may the training begin ...

Edited by Gwenaelle Focht, 06 May 2012 - 10:56 AM.

[McQueen]

You are missing the Military Academy of Somerset and the Tamar War College from your list of Lyran schools. Somerset would be my first choice. Also, The Melissa Steiner Academy is just a militia training ground in the current time frame.

[Gwenaelle Focht]

McQueen, on 05 May 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

You are missing the Military Academy of Somerset and the Tamar War College from your list of Lyran schools. Somerset would be my first choice. Also, The Melissa Steiner Academy is just a militia training ground in the current time frame.

Thanks for your comment, I added those training centre options to the poll.

The MSMA is focussed on militia and similarly the ANA is focussed on piloting ships of all sorts, probably, not exactly the usual type of training centre for mechwarriors. However, the Lyran militia has played key roles in conflicts and militia activity also involves mechs now and then, thus, it is comprehensible that mech combat is part of the MSMA training program (in particular, regarding guerilla tactics). I agree, that it would not be the most straightforward training centre of the LCAF, but I still voted for it, because the skill set obtained there will make one a highly specialised mech warrior (and agent); similarly, the ANA could feature training related to ship defense by means of battlemechs ... more specialised in that respect, but also taking into account interdisciplinary activities ... something that will not be taught (to that extent) at the other training centres.

Edited by Gwenaelle Focht, 05 May 2012 - 10:30 PM.

[Arturus]

Gwen,

If you need any college sigils, background info, political climate/atmosphere, school rag colors, associated training battalions (if applicable), etc. for the various Lyran War Colleges (up to c. 3025-3061 or so), we have some posted on our site. These were copied/quoted From: Lyran Alliance Battletech Field Manual, © 2000 & House Steiner Battletech Game Sourcebook, © 1987, FASA Corporation:

• Nagelring on Tharkad
  
• Sanglamore on Skye
  
• War College of Tamar
  
• Flight Academy of Thorin
  
• Coventry Academy
  
• Royal New Capetown Military Academy
  
• Blackjack School of Conflict
  
• Military Academy of Somerset
  
• War College of Buena
  
• Pandora College of Military Sciences

Hope this is of help...Gotta love the lore!

.../Salute

Edited by Arturus, 06 May 2012 - 08:07 AM.

[Gwenaelle Focht]

Arturus, on 06 May 2012 - 07:45 AM, said:

Gwen,

If you need any college sigils, background info, political climate/atmosphere, school rag colors, associated training battalions (if applicable), etc. for the various Lyran War Colleges (up to c. 3025-3061 or so), we have some posted on our site. These were copied/quoted From: Lyran Alliance Battletech Field Manual, © 2000 & House Steiner Battletech Game Sourcebook, © 1987, FASA Corporation:

• Nagelring on Tharkad
  
• Sanglamore on Skye
  
• War College of Tamar
  
• Flight Academy of Thorin
  
• Coventry Academy
  
• Royal New Capetown Military Academy
  
• Blackjack School of Conflict
  
• Military Academy of Somerset
  
• War College of Buena
  
• Pandora College of Military Sciences

Hope this is of help...Gotta love the lore!


.../Salute

Cheers for your help, Arturus,

I added the other training centres as options in the poll. Many thanks also for posting the weblinks to your website containing the insignia and FASA descriptions of the centres, which will assist others to immerse themselves in the lore of the Lyran Commonwealth and, hopefully, increase the participation in this topic. I saw that you opted for the dark green silk sash which would have been my second choice after the white silk sash.

[Arturus]

hehe, all good, Gwen...glad the info helps out...enjoy!

.../tiphat

[Savant]

Buena es buena!

[Sassori]

I find it pretty interesting that most of our mechwarriors don't want anything to do with the 'secret' societies or the like

[Paralax]

I am a secret

[Gwenaelle Focht]

Christopher Dayson, on 06 May 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

I find it pretty interesting that most of our mechwarriors don't want anything to do with the 'secret' societies or the like

True, there could be multiple reasons for that, such as:

- Not wanting to get one's hands dirty, considering secret societies unethical

- Limited patriotism

- Poll results are visible and fear of compromised identity and retribution

- No additional benefit comprehensible from secret agency membership at this time

- Lack of interest in covert operations/missions or any other agency activities

- Little background information about House Steiner secret services

- Potential for political involvement

[Flame]

Thanks to a heavy-Coventry bias (some of my favorite 'Mechs come from Coventry Metal Works), I picked Coventry Military Academy. Given my strong pro-Victor leanings, I picked Heimdall, his hand-picked group to monitor the excesses of LOKI. Given my impression of NAIS technology, I picked Federated Suns and Comstar as having equal-or-better training to the Lyran academies.

[Gwenaelle Focht]

Flame, on 09 May 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

Thanks to a heavy-Coventry bias (some of my favorite 'Mechs come from Coventry Metal Works), I picked Coventry Military Academy. Given my strong pro-Victor leanings, I picked Heimdall, his hand-picked group to monitor the excesses of LOKI. Given my impression of NAIS technology, I picked Federated Suns and Comstar as having equal-or-better training to the Lyran academies.

Sounds like you had plenty of good reasons for choosing Coventry to me. I am just surprised that the later attack of Clan Jade Falcon on Coventry (rushing to the defense as a former alumni together with Wolf's Dragoons and Waco Rangers and since it is not too far from Tharkad) was not on your mind when you made your choice?

Not sure, if a lot of users make their choices based on upcoming conflicts with other Houses or the Clans (from that point of view, House Steiner, Free Rasalhague Republic, House Kurita and selected mercenary units will certainly get the biggest share of the action, followed by House Davion and House Liao, whereas, House Marik would be the least involved)?

[Flame]

Gwenaelle Focht, on 13 May 2012 - 12:50 PM, said:

Sounds like you had plenty of good reasons for choosing Coventry to me. I am just surprised that the later attack of Clan Jade Falcon on Coventry (rushing to the defense as a former alumni together with Wolf's Dragoons and Waco Rangers and since it is not too far from Tharkad) was not on your mind when you made your choice?

Not sure, if a lot of users make their choices based on upcoming conflicts with other Houses or the Clans (from that point of view, House Steiner, Free Rasalhague Republic, House Kurita and selected mercenary units will certainly get the biggest share of the action, followed by House Davion and House Liao, whereas, House Marik would be the least involved)?

Though I'm well aware of the CJF attack on Coventry (one character I'm playing in MechWarrior Third Edition was orphaned in the disastrous artillery strike at the start of CJF's 3058 invasion), that honestly wasn't what crossed my mind. I'm just fond of the Commando, Stinger, Scarabus, and even the Hollander (admittedly, many of these are well ahead of the MWO timeline). To say nothing of the Hauptmann......

[WhiteTigerWolf]

Hey Gwen,I used to be in House Steiner in the fasa days on AOL and would like to return to my heritage on the house Steiner side as I never left it back then when it was known as Multiplayer Battletech and then again in the Actual Mechwarrior games that came,I love and adhere to Steiner rules and miss my House and would like to return and help to erdicate the other factions that threaten our way of life among the other Steiner clans and more.....So if at all possible it would be a great pleasure to rejoin again and take over in a new set of mechs and as well as old such as the zeus,atlas,awesome,and a few more,lol,so would it be at all possible to rejoin and help out once more till death of this game which I dont see ever happening?>????? My ingame name is WhiteTigerWolf.....

[Candy Box]

Hi,
here my picks :
The Royal New Capetown Military Academy (well known for any kind of specialists)
Lohengrin (best in Anti-Mech combat tactics compared to other LIC branches; also an awesome piece of culture)
ComStar (Blake's Wrath) / Federated Suns (DMI - MI6)

Edited by Candy Box, 15 May 2012 - 05:31 AM.

[Gwenaelle Focht]

WhiteTigerWolf, on 13 May 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

Hey Gwen,I used to be in House Steiner in the fasa days on AOL and would like to return to my heritage on the house Steiner side as I never left it back then when it was known as Multiplayer Battletech and then again in the Actual Mechwarrior games that came,I love and adhere to Steiner rules and miss my House and would like to return and help to erdicate the other factions that threaten our way of life among the other Steiner clans and more.....So if at all possible it would be a great pleasure to rejoin again and take over in a new set of mechs and as well as old such as the zeus,atlas,awesome,and a few more,lol,so would it be at all possible to rejoin and help out once more till death of this game which I dont see ever happening?>????? My ingame name is WhiteTigerWolf.....

Hi WTW, nice to have another Steiner veteran rejoin ... let's see how the game will unfold and let's hope that it will be plenty of fun

[Handmaiden]

The Sanglamore Academy due to its heritage and doctrine of independant thinking which as a self-professed recon pilot, I find the most valueable... Lohengrin, with its anti-mech tactics, should serve me well both in an out of the cockpit. Lastly, Comstar.. its the one place where lost tech and how to use it is not lost at this time. Short Simple and to the Point! (( I have been playing a Lyran, since my pen & paper days.. So this is home and I wouldn't have it any other way!)) ~ Handmaiden, Ayrissa Montrose

[Johan Karl Steiner]

This is an interesting initiative :-) I am especially interested in the Blackjack school just because of its "rebellious" background and that of its alum. It's fun ordering my character to the Steiner house and yet trying to differentiate from it. What's a junior/cadet branch of the family supposed to do anyway? :-)

[Gwenaelle Focht]

Interesting preliminary results, it seems there is not much love for the flight/naval training centres as well as for the Pandora College, and The Nagelring is still the most popular institute followed by the Blackjack School of Conflict, and the Sanglamore Academy, the CMA and the MSMA are on par with one another.

With regard to the LIC groups Heimdall seems to be the most popular fraction so far, followed by the Diplomatic Guard/Corps and then Lohengrin, while the Bodians have not been supported yet.

Finally, ComStar is reckoned to be the faction/empire to have equivalent or better training programs than the LCAF, leading by a hair's breadth over the Federated Suns, while the Draconis Combine is the far behind on third place to date.

I wonder who will end up on top in the last poll question/category (?) ... in my opinion it should be ComStar but there seem to be a lot of FedComers here ...

[Candy Box]

Normaly iam 50/50 between Lohengrin and The Brotherhood of Cincinnatus. But like Heimdall, the Brotherhood is not part of the LIC or even an LC/LA state wise group. Well, no Brotherhood, so my best pick was Lohengrin. They've done or will do awesome work against an binary of Steel Viper Mechs in the future. Forcing them to retreat with only infantry weapons, an support PPC an about 18 men. downing several Mechs and BattleArmor until they had been overruned and forced to surrender. Guess that was in the old Tactical Handbook from the mid 90s.

By the Way, dont expect too much interest for AeroSpace programs until 3062 the only semi-full program is featured at the Nagelring. At mid 3062 first classes at the ANA starting after the Academies and Programs at thorin and Pandora had been removed to Alarion. So remember games play 3049/3050 around, at that time not all listed lyran academies even had an mechwarrior program. Final word to the Brotherhood, you're missing patriotism? they're. Coming into action if needed and stepping down if the job is done. At least that have been in the old days so.