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[ArmandTulsen]

Renege that. I can still run the game, but there's no improvement on the lowest possible settings (I always used this), and it's still running 15-20 fps - 10 if I get into fights.

[xenoglyph]

To EternalCore: you should recommend RadeonPro over the nonworking/buggy/crash causing ATI tools.

I can confirm that it works on Win 8 x64, though it doesn't provide a performance boost, it does at least seem to function properly.

[EternalCore]

xenoglyph, on 14 December 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

To EternalCore: you should recommend RadeonPro over the nonworking/buggy/crash causing ATI tools.

I can confirm that it works on Win 8 x64, though it doesn't provide a performance boost, it does at least seem to function properly.

It doesn't have an option to change the threading.

[ArmandTulsen]

EternalCore, any hope for me with those specs? The game is barely playable, but far from preferred. I don't care about visual effects and whatnot, just decent playability.

Edited by ArmandTulsen, 14 December 2012 - 09:58 PM.

[EternalCore]

ArmandTulsen, on 14 December 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

EternalCore, any hope for me with those specs? The game is barely playable, but far from preferred. I don't care about visual effects and whatnot, just decent playability.

I Still need the make and Model of your laptop to help you farther.

Edited by EternalCore, 14 December 2012 - 11:51 PM.

[ArmandTulsen]

Dell, M5110.

[EternalCore]

ArmandTulsen, on 15 December 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

Dell, M5110.

According to the specs your "Dell Inspiron M5110" has this CPU "AMD Quad-Core A6-3400M 1.4GHz". This means that your laptop is not meant for heavy gaming and MWO will not run very well at all. Also your GPU "AMD Radeon HD 6520G" is a media GPU and it's not designed to work with heavy games as the stats show here: http://www.notebookc...0G.55734.0.html

Basically your laptop is meant and designed for general and media usage.

Edited by EternalCore, 15 December 2012 - 12:30 AM.

[ArmandTulsen]

EternalCore, on 15 December 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

According to the specs your "Dell Inspiron M5110" has this CPU "AMD Quad-Core A6-3400M 1.4GHz". This means that your laptop is not meant for heavy gaming and MWO will not run very well at all. Also your GPU "AMD Radeon HD 6520G" is a media GPU and it's not designed to work with heavy games as the stats show here: http://www.notebookc...0G.55734.0.html

Basically your laptop is meant and designed for general and media usage.

That's weird, because systems lab shows I exceed the recommended specs for Crysis 3. The display driver is unrecognized. It works in conjunction with Radeon HD 7450M.

[EternalCore]

ArmandTulsen, on 15 December 2012 - 12:58 AM, said:

That's weird, because systems lab shows I exceed the recommended specs for Crysis 3. The display driver is unrecognized. It works in conjunction with Radeon HD 7450M.

Crysis2 Yes, but not Crysis3 which is not out yet and it uses the CryEngine3.4; and Crysis2 uses the Older CryEngine3.1.9.

It's both the slow speed of your CPU(1.4ghz) and the not enough power of your GPU which is the case here.

Edited by EternalCore, 16 December 2012 - 01:42 PM.

[ArmandTulsen]

Dude, you're not helping, you're arguing. I'm looking at my specs and it's not even a 1.4. I can run games like D3 and SC2 on high settings with a constant 40+ fps, but I can't even hit 25 fps on the lowest settings here. The problem appears to be the engine not properly utilizing the hardware.

[EternalCore]

ArmandTulsen, on 15 December 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

Dude, you're not helping, you're arguing. I'm looking at my specs and it's not even a 1.4. I can run games like D3 and SC2 on high settings with a constant 40+ fps, but I can't even hit 25 fps on the lowest settings here. The problem appears to be the engine not properly utilizing the hardware.

SC2 and D3 use old game engines based off of the WoW game engine(Which is a heavily modded Warcraft III Engine); as where the CryEngine3 is a NEXT GEN GAMING ENGINE!!!

Also I will explain it again for you -> It's both the combination of the slow speed of your CPU("AMD Quad-Core A6-3400M 1.4GHz" ) and not enough power from your GPU("AMD Radeon HD 6520G") which is the Reason why you can't and won't be able to run this game well; Not with that laptop!.

Edited by EternalCore, 15 December 2012 - 05:34 PM.

[fxrsniper]

GvM, on 14 December 2012 - 10:10 AM, said:

Oh gawd... I double that Click guy who said everything right. Is he's the only one adequate person in here?
Lets just face that the game has no heavy graphic features (and note that we don't even need the ultra settings to lag @ 10fps),
it doesn't have much polygons (it's a damn mechs with normalmaps),
the tree models are lower quality than cryengine1 had, it's not even the speedtree engine spamming random trees up to the horizon,
the landscapes are static and rocky it's just cant affect the performance of our gpu/cpus - stop discussing about fsb and ddr clocks that **** can be statically held in gpu memory including the robots and trees... did you ever heard about geometry instancing?
moreover it still runs the same cryengine, even more - it runs the third cryengine which is highly optimized, even the ****** ps3\360's hardware can handle that easily having 8800gt/2900hd gpus inside and the mwo lags even when the cryengine sdk's sandbox doesn't.

all those discussions about cores, ht, htt, fsb are stupid and have nothing to do with the lags (except that it gives you a chance to outperform lags by your mighty dollars)
moreover it's definitly threading/syncing issue between cpu/gpu and it's totally an engine's or dev's bug/messed code/wrong usage

If the devs can't see the problem and you, guys, will keep 'helping' everybody with upgrades... then I'm just out of here...

Click said everything correct lmao he said nothing right, do you know anything about games vs how Computers process or you just trolling. Slower machine can cause lag from many different things so go read up on technology then come back thanks in advance. And yes everything that was said does play a part in all games FSB/HT

Kiblams, on 14 December 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

This is pretty much the case, there is nothing in this game that should be challenging my system (sandybridge dual core without HT) when BF3 and Crysis 1&2 run fine.

The devs have openly admitted that they are struggling to optimise for dual core CPUs and that for me should be one of their top priorities (as allot of gamers still use Intel dual cores of some form) so in my opinion we should be patient and at least wait for that to happen before shelling out loads of money for a single game to run.

I have every confidence that the devs are looking to fix this, and judging by the customer service I have had in contacting them, it does seem important to them . Just remember, the more the optimise it for the lower end, the more advanced features they can put in (destructible environments anyone?) for those of you with monster rigs down the line

yeh there is the more resources they implement in CryEngine the more it's going to push your system, This game is going to play better with Quad cores as I and many others have proven. We have people in our 300 member group that have upgraded to Quad cores and are playing 15-20 fps higher, so there's no arguing here about what works and what doesn't yes the game optimization is not where it needs to be, but having a better macine does help.

[fxrsniper]

EternalCore, on 15 December 2012 - 01:59 AM, said:

Crysis2 Yes, but not Crysis3 which is not out yet and it uses the CryEngine3.4; and Crysis2 uses the CryEngine2.

It's both the slow speed of your CPU(1.4ghz) and the not enough power of your GPU which is the case here.

Just a note Crysis 2 was on CryEngine 3 but not 3.4

ArmandTulsen, on 15 December 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

Dell, M5110.

Not all laptops are optimized for gaming just because the minimum specs for a game fits the laptop specs it's still not a desktop with more power incl. PSU, board, memory and dedicated gpu. Now the Asus Republic of Gamer Laptops are made for it but you also are going to pay for it. We have guys in our group with laptops having the same issues, but wait it out and lets see if they get lower machine optimization fixed.

[EternalCore]

fxrsniper, on 16 December 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

Just a note Crysis 2 was on CryEngine 3 but not 3.4

Ah yes so it was I forgot about Crysis Warhead which was on the CryEngine2. But Crysis 2 is on the CryEngine3.1.9 Which is Vastly Different from The CryEngine3.4 including in performance among tons of other things.

[Kiblams]

fxrsniper, on 16 December 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

This game is going to play better with Quad cores as I and many others have proven. We have people in our 300 member group that have upgraded to Quad cores and are playing 15-20 fps higher, so there's no arguing here about what works and what doesn't yes the game optimization is not where it needs to be, but having a better macine does help.

where on earth did you get the idea that I thought dual cores run the game as well as quad cores!?! I was merely stating that it is in EVERYONES interest that they concentrate on optimising the CPU utilisation, and that I believe they will manage it one day soon...

[Rebel Ace Fryslan]

I can't use Atitools to force multi-threading.
installed it and used the dll, but getting a memmory conflict, it doesn't like win7 i guess.

IS there another tool to force multithreading or do we have to wait for Piranha
Have a quadcore, so it could help some.

[Belzebub]

Rebel Ace Fryslan, on 17 December 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

I can't use Atitools to force multi-threading.
installed it and used the dll, but getting a memmory conflict, it doesn't like win7 i guess.

IS there another tool to force multithreading or do we have to wait for Piranha
Have a quadcore, so it could help some.

Same issue here with W7

[EternalCore]

Rebel Ace Fryslan, on 17 December 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

I can't use Atitools to force multi-threading.
installed it and used the dll, but getting a memmory conflict, it doesn't like win7 i guess.

IS there another tool to force multithreading or do we have to wait for Piranha
Have a quadcore, so it could help some.

I haven't found any-other programs that do this properly yet. But your welcome to look around the net.

Belzebub, on 17 December 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:

Same issue here with W7

The next patch tomorrow is supposed to have major performance fixes so we'll just have to wait and see.

[fxrsniper]

Kiblams, on 16 December 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

where on earth did you get the idea that I thought dual cores run the game as well as quad cores!?! I was merely stating that it is in EVERYONES interest that they concentrate on optimising the CPU utilisation, and that I believe they will manage it one day soon...

I was merely making a statement that it will run better as to what Click was stating nothing towards you just a simple statement

[William Draven]

Alright. Most of you are going to want to Catapult stomp me for this, but I have a Compaq Presario CQ57. Average framerate is 10fps or less. Everything is on minimum and resolution set to 1024x768 windowed. Aside from buying parts, or a new computer, neither of which I can afford right now, what kinds of fun but serious ideas do you think I should try to get up to around 30fps or more? I know there are tricks to this kind of thing, I've run games that I shouldn't have on computers multiple times without frying them. Here are the stats, which I KNOW you will all laugh at.

Intel Celeron B800 Dual-Core 1.5Ghz 1.5GHz
RAM 2048
Intel HD Graphics Card, latest drivers
Realtek HD audio

All of this hardware is integrated to the board except the RAM, which I need money to upgrade. Any fun things I should try? I already looked up the Turbo Boost thing and acted accordingly. So, any more fun ideas for me to play with?