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#181 Azantia

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:50 PM

View PostAccurs3D, on 30 November 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

I've played alphas with more content and better balance. Step it up. Where'd those millions of dollars go? Surely they went towards development right?

Probably not.


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#182 Slaytronic

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:05 PM

View PostsiLve00, on 30 November 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

the problem is.. ppl are selfish.

just take a look what we got the past weeks :

lrm fix + light lagshields = more lights
more lights = more streakcats
more streakcats = more whining about streaks
streak fix + light lagshield = more lights
between that all the crying about DHS / Gauss / UAC/ 8 player teams

instead of learning and training ppl making weird threads like : "nerf this & and that oh and btw this suxx also"

thats how you ruin a game and you dont even notice it at all.
as for me.. MW:O is dead right now.. i dont see a point why i should keep playing it.
the community is premade vs pugs and foudners vs nonfounders
tho i thought i wouldnt see it in a MW game.. since the most of us should be in their mid 20 or even 30+ and know how to act mature.


your kidding right? the um community of this game has always been like this pure cut throat. Normally the only place people are nice is within your own group.

Flame on

#183 stoph

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:16 PM

I also have to comment I find interesting the threads that are all "I"M NOT PLAYING THIS GAME TILL THIS IS FIXED!!!!" or "I'M TIRED OF THIS F'NG GAME I QUIT!!!!"
That will be something posted three-four days ago or longer. I will check their profile and last online Today at not long ago at all....
Don't say it if you don't mean it. Again one that is justone more thing you say that is counter-productive.

Edited by stoph, 30 November 2012 - 08:18 PM.


#184 Skylen

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:33 PM

View PostLordBraxton, on 30 November 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:


This community isn't toxic, its just rabidly passionate.

I agree people get way too invested in the matchmaking and balance issues, as they are so temporary.

But they are using this to try and justify selling out and shoe horning in 3rd person to sell camo and ruin the game for the vets.

We HAVE to put our foot down on third person, they are so obviously DESPERATE to include it against the entire community's wishes its pathetic.

PS: the community didn't remove collisions, so we didn't ruin that part.

agreed +9000
they are not going to put 3rd person in, if they do I would be very surprised and disappointed.

#185 GalaxyBluestar

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:13 PM

View Poststoph, on 30 November 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

I also have to comment I find interesting the threads that are all "I"M NOT PLAYING THIS GAME TILL THIS IS FIXED!!!!" or "I'M TIRED OF THIS F'NG GAME I QUIT!!!!"
That will be something posted three-four days ago or longer. I will check their profile and last online Today at not long ago at all....
Don't say it if you don't mean it. Again one that is justone more thing you say that is counter-productive.


i've felt like that and have mentioned such thoughts in a post or two but somepeople kindly talked me out of it or offer support and i've kinda dropped off my play time than in the first fortnight of open beta. i've proberbly been more active on forums than in game. i think alot of it has to come from the "you'd have to be there" moments. there was one post where someone felt seriously put out about a part of the game that was taken out and was stupidly making demands to put it back in. now what you'd expect were to recive why the game mechanic was taken out but instead a dev replied

NO!

now after that people scoffed at how an immense troll that dev was and that he offered no reasoning for saying that. now that's the kinda behavior you don't want from spoilt players, but a DEV!? that made me lose faith that the game was undercontrol and i felt like expressing that this isn't the kinda game i wanted to play, if this is how it was going to be handled. yes even the devs are cut throat and unrully as some players and i'm glad i got a reply to my post about the why's and soforth, something i expected from the dev with at least some PR skils. so in the end it's very easy to be counter productive provoked by poor behavior thank goodness someone had more sence to talk me round.

it's just too easy to fall off the rails so consider that not all the things we say we are 100% certain of. i'm sure the dev will be happy to put collisions back in when the game's ready for it.

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 30 November 2012 - 09:44 PM.


#186 Shiney

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:52 PM

We're a passionate community who LOVE the game and want to see the best for the game. Sure some people whine to influence, but overall it's about seeing the game that will be the BEST to date of this type.

#187 Valder

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:59 PM

+1 OP

#188 Hellen Wheels

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:04 PM

View PostKraven Kor, on 30 November 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

We are a bunch of raging lunatics and, well, @$$#0|3$ for the most part.

I'm sorry, but we are.

This is an incredibly toxic community. The amount of nerd rage I see posted on a daily basis - and yes, I've probably been guilty of it myself - is staggering.

I am hoping that everyone can read this, objectively, and realize that the hate needs to stop. The griefing, the insults towards others that don't agree with you on any given subject, the hate between "premades" and "lone wolves..." It all needs to stop. Or at least let up a bit....I hope that each and every one of us can make whatever base effort we can to make this a better, friendlier, less argumentative, and more welcoming community.

We have no small amount of control over the success or failure of this franchise, and no small amount of responsibility to try and make this the best community we can make it. Discussing differences of opinion is fine; let's all try to be more constructive about [it]. Please?

Thank you for reading. I'll leave this soap box right here for the next guy :)

Well said. Us, the core community, will make it or break it.

I hope we make it. I certainly don't want to have to endure another MPBT:3025 fiasco, and then wait another 10 years. I don't think I can last that long.
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#189 Thorn Hallis

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:11 PM

I think the community would be more calm and less frustrated if it would have more sex.

#190 Wolf Ender

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:12 PM

im not a pgi fanboy, i think they have a lot of problems with their game and leave much to be desired

but i also think this community is just toxic with negativity. i'm tired of it.

isn't anyone glad that we finally have a new mechwarrior game after 10 years and it looks totally bad ***? i understand it doesn't really work right, but ****. its mechwarrior, dude. **** yes. MWO: **** yeah. Long Live MWO.

#191 MW Waldorf Statler

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:45 PM

my 2 cent...
If you want to make a game for certain masses, you get these too, and their intellect on how should people communicate, not even understand that that one leg and may move separately upper body of one another, or that experienced MW players without cheats can target and kill better than WoW player?

1% of the Mankind is nacistic,10% of the male and 1 % of the Female Mankind is disocial Psychotic,1% of Mankind schizoid ,0,4-1,8 of Mankind is paranoid...no Hope for better Times

Edited by CSJ Ranger, 01 December 2012 - 12:15 AM.


#192 RiceyFighter

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:42 AM

Honestly I think there is not enough communication between PGI and the community. Everyone goes on the forums mad about something. If only PGI addressed the issues properly it would help.

#193 anthony gryphon

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:58 AM

Kraven is absolutely right. +1

#194 N0MAD

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 01:16 AM

Im not commenting on the 3rd person or any other argument in this.
The OPs intention and the rest of the comment is very valid
Quote..
Posted Yesterday, 09:27 AM
There is no "other side" to poorly tested, half-hearted implementations we keep getting dropped on us.

I enjoy the game I really do, but to pretend these guys are not peddling gold while delivering bronze is unrealistic.
End Quote..

Looi if they are promising gold and delivering Bronze BUT are trying to deliver gold i personally can cope with that, and wish them the best.

#195 Lyteros

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 03:25 AM

Some people will always blame the one who finds and points out problems, instead of blaming the ones responsible.

There were several MILLIONS revenue just from founders, blown into a back then not even playable game. Just a few things they did:
  • Then they went Open Beta with a medicore alpha version that is full of bugs that are carried over for months, even if thousands said it is NOT ready
  • missing content. Lots of it. (Yes the game will constantly add, which is good, but they startet out with less then 1/4 of what was promised)
  • empty promises (No 3rd ever -> Yes 3rd is coming - 4000 votes against > We think about when 3rd comes),
  • no proper feedback and lots of unlogical replies (3rd person because it would be easier for newbies - well then how about a proper tutorial?)
  • the unveiled tries to monetize everything, even with a broken game (which is actually not how F2P works)
  • hiding behind the "open beta" nametag to shroud a try releasing a subpar product

You're absolutely right, we are the problem! We should all just pay more and more, trow money at PIG so they do not have to rethink their strategy while enjoing cocktails in their bahamas villa. I'm sure all will magically fix itself.

Some of us metioned those problems with constructive tries and suggestions month ago, some did predict a lot of the problems (no newbie catering at all e.g.) and it did lead to nothing. Those people are frustrated and tired, a large part of them are already gone elsewhere without caring anymore, waiting for the game to become better or finally die.

But hey, the irresponsible MWO patriotism (I'll not use fanbois this time) will for sure fix everything...

#196 Sifright

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:45 AM

View PostAccurs3D, on 30 November 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

I've played alphas with more content and better balance. Step it up. Where'd those millions of dollars go? Surely they went towards development right?

Probably not.


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#197 Viper69

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:56 AM

Gotta love rep farming.

#198 Wardn

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 09:14 AM

But guys, it's still in BETAAAAAAAAAAA which means none of your concerns are valid because they'll all be fixed and you're just not being patient enough with the devs, they need to relax too.

/s

#199 Leetskeet

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 09:35 AM

View PostN0MAD, on 01 December 2012 - 01:16 AM, said:

if they are promising gold and delivering Bronze BUT are trying to deliver gold i personally can cope with that, and wish them the best.

>Treating a company that wants your money as if they were your child trying his bestest at baseball practice but he just can't hit the ball

#200 dF0X

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 09:36 AM

View PostLeetskeet, on 01 December 2012 - 09:35 AM, said:

>Treating a company that wants your money as if they were your child trying his bestest at baseball practice but he just can't hit the ball


lol! PGI in a nutshell.





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