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[The Cool]

Man, these trial mechs. They overheat like crazy, and I feel like I can't even fire very much before i get shut down.

I'm not able to do much damage, and I feel like in the trial mechs, I'm just a stand in for NPCs, that I'm nothing more than target practice.

I could purchase my own mech, but from what I hear, and from the stats I've seen, even if I win while taking very little damage, i won't make as much as if I just ran a trial mech and immediately killed myself.

Seriously, this game does not make me want to actually play it.

It'd be better if I had some incentive to actively play...

Y'all's thoughts?

[beniliusbob]

why not all my weapons shoot

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Edited by Viterbi, 01 December 2012 - 08:26 AM.
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[Taryys]

Yea the trial mechs are not optimal or new user friendly.
Just stick it out until you get your own mech the game changes drastically from there.
You can also purchase MC to buy a mech outright too.


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Edited by Taryys, 30 November 2012 - 12:16 PM.

[Pendraco]

I think it is worth throwing $15 at it, the game is far more fun when you can start messing around with your own 'Mech. Get a Medium / heavy you like and spend the rest on unlocking 'Mech Bays.

Oh! and try teaming up with some people - Helps a lot in the "Fun" department!

Welcome to MWO!

[Deadoon]

beniliusbob, on 30 November 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

why not all my weapons shoot

Yeah, that trial awesome is just a great design is it not? After all it is an awesome... broken as ****.

Pendraco, on 30 November 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:

I think it is worth throwing $15 at it, the game is far more fun when you can start messing around with your own 'Mech. Get a Medium / heavy you like and spend the rest on unlocking 'Mech Bays.

Oh! and try teaming up with some people - Helps a lot in the "Fun" department!

Welcome to MWO!

Yes, someone who doesn't enjoy a game is sooo going to pay money for it.

Edited by Deadoon, 30 November 2012 - 12:17 PM.

[Jace11]

Way to respond to new members, who says this community sucks?

Maybe a stalker trial mech will be viable when it arrives. All variants have heavy missile load outs.

Edited by Jace11, 30 November 2012 - 12:19 PM.

[The Cool]

Taryys, on 30 November 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

[Guide] Playing with Friends, Groups, and Teams

I did play with a team for a bit, and made most of the way towards the cheapest mech.
Which I hear is still terrible, even with the best possible builds.

Oh well.

[Redshift2k5]

Improvements to the way new users play the game (New User Flow) are being designed.

http://mwomercs.com/...nd-trial-mechs/

[Taryys]

Not everyone here is a ****, believe it or not.

Take a look at my guide, and then find some people to play with and learn from.
Your win/loss ratio will change and you will get more enjoyment from the game.

For realz!!

It all depends on the user honestly. Light mechs for me are hard to pilot.
I think they will be for all new users frankly.

I would save your way up to a medium mech like the Hunchback to start.
The Cicada might be a bit too much speed.

The Cool, on 30 November 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

I did play with a team for a bit, and made most of the way towards the cheapest mech.
Which I hear is still terrible, even with the best possible builds.

[Pendraco]

Deadoon, on 30 November 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:

Yeah, that trial awesome is just a great design is it not? After all it is an awesome... broken as ****.



Yes, someone who doesn't enjoy a game is sooo going to pay money for it.

Well I would agree, But from the title and his comments, it sounds like the trial grind is what he doesn't like.

[Jace11]

Taryys, on 30 November 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

Not everyone here is a ****, believe it or not.

Take a look at my guide, and then find some people to play with and learn from.
Your win/loss ratio will change and you will get more enjoyment from the game.

For realz!!

I know, but his 1st post, and the first reply he gets doesn't reflect well on this place.

[Beo Vulf]

The Cool, on 30 November 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

I did play with a team for a bit, and made most of the way towards the cheapest mech.
Which I hear is still terrible, even with the best possible builds.

Oh well.

With trial mechs heat management is the key to playing them. Find one that has a heat rating of over 1.1-1.2, than use the high heat weapons only when you are below 50% on the heat meter. make sure your weapons are grouped into the groups you want and you can even deselect some weapons to help keep your heat down. Most of them are over weaponed any ways for the amount of heat sinks they have.

[beniliusbob]

Dude, if you're not just trolling... you're reading the forums too much. The things you wrote in your post read like an agglomeration of every whiny post in the General Discussion forum. "Stand in for NPCs" is particularly suspect. But if you're a legitimate player, I apologize.

Grind a million cBills with each of the trial chassis - don't jump around from one to the next. That way, you'll get the practice you need to set up your weapon groups properly and learn the strategies that apply best to different weapon types (energy, ballistics, and missiles) as well as different speeds and armour classes. I found the trail experience great practice - but the last game I played also had a "skill cliff" like MWO. You'll get over it, though, and you'll love it.

Don't just buy a Commando, by the way.

[p4r4g0n]

@OP be thankful that when you drop solo you may have a 4 person group on your side unlike before

[Sulf]

The Cool, on 30 November 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

Man, these trial mechs. They overheat like crazy, and I feel like I can't even fire very much before i get shut down.

I'm not able to do much damage, and I feel like in the trial mechs, I'm just a stand in for NPCs, that I'm nothing more than target practice.

I could purchase my own mech, but from what I hear, and from the stats I've seen, even if I win while taking very little damage, i won't make as much as if I just ran a trial mech and immediately killed myself.

Seriously, this game does not make me want to actually play it.

It'd be better if I had some incentive to actively play...

Y'all's thoughts?

This right here is a prime example of new user experience.

[Taryys]

I did not have a prob with his post.
Sure he shows his irritation and annoyance, which is justifiable, but It was not a true qq/thread-rant, in my opinion.

The rest of your advice is pretty good.

beniliusbob, on 30 November 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Dude, if you're not just trolling... you're reading the forums too much. The things you wrote in your post read like an agglomeration of every whiny post in the General Discussion forum. "Stand in for NPCs" is particularly suspect. But if you're a legitimate player, I apologize.

Grind a million cBills with each of the trial chassis - don't jump around from one to the next. That way, you'll get the practice you need to set up your weapon groups properly and learn the strategies that apply best to different weapon types (energy, ballistics, and missiles) as well as different speeds and armour classes. I found the trial experience great practice - but the last game I played also had a "skill cliff" like MWO. You'll get over it, though, and you'll love it.

Don't just buy a Commando, by the way.

[Strikhedonia]

Are you setting up your weapons at the start of the drop? The game provides very little in the way of a tutorial and heat management is a part of the game's strategy. If you fire all the weapons at once you'll simply overheat after one or two shots.

The upside to the trial mechs is that there are no repair/reload costs. This makes it possible to purchase your first mech relatively quickly, light mechs only run a few million c-bills. You'll make less than you would with a trial mech, but the trade-off is that the experience trees make the mech more dangerous on the battlefield. A stock trial Catapult cannot hold a torch to an owned Catapult that has been level up to Master.

While YouTube is a valuable place to find tutorial videos, the best training in my opinion is to find a friendly group of players and questions.

[Lee Ving]

Use Backspace (default mapping) to fire a given weapon group sequentially ("chain fire") without overheating.

Is anyone surprised that the people who felt the need to spend $100+ on the initial account founders package think nothing of someone spending money to enjoy a game that at present, is not an enjoyable new-user experience?

[beniliusbob]

Taryys, on 30 November 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

I did not have a prob with his post.
Sure he shows his irritation and annoyance, which is justifiable, but It was not a true qq/thread-rant, in my opinion.

The rest of your advice is pretty good.

I don't have a problem, I just... this post... it's so... perfect... it's not a newbie's post. Am I seriously the only one who thinks The Cool is a troll?

Ah, well.

[Taryys]

beniliusbob, on 30 November 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

I don't have a problem, I just... this post... it's so... perfect... it's not a newbie's post. Am I seriously the only one who thinks The Cool is a troll?

Ah, well.