31 replies to this topic

[MrFunsocks]

I've only been playing 2 days, and in greater than half my matches there's at least 1 afker, d/cer, suicider, or team-killer. Is there no report feature or system of banning these people?

[PapaKilo]

Not yet. They're working on the actual game first.

[Evinthal]

MrFunsocks, on 24 November 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

I've only been playing 2 days, and in greater than half my matches there's at least 1 afker, d/cer, suicider, or team-killer. Is there no report feature or system of banning these people?

Write down the name of the player and then send a report to support@mwomercs.com detailing what happened. Please be aware though that sometimes the game does crash on people, or they get a black screen or something else that will make them unable to play.

When some form of bug happens to me I inform the people I am playing with what happened.

[Adeptus Odren]

I strongly suggest NOT incorporating an in-game punishment. A lot of times people disconnect thru no fault of their own. Sometimes, you disconnect and yet your mech is still in-game and dead teammates can see through your cockpit, making them think you afk'ed - but, in truth, you disconnected because your client crashed.

Edited by Adeptus Odren, 24 November 2012 - 08:30 PM.

[John Norad]

Yep, punishment is bad in many cases. It's only warranted when it's absolutely clear, like for example 10 consecutive hits on a teammate in the first minute of the match. Or similar.
What you can do, though, is stuff that's just fair and square, like letting you pay your teammate's repair bill if you shoot him (for the damage you caused).

It's generally better to work with incentives. Don't punish bad play, reward good play.
If farming just isn't worth it, most people won't do it.

[DerelictTomcat]

The name the fact its his first post and the subject well well well... What is there to say? I'm with the guys who believe punishment is best left to your parents.

[MrFunsocks]

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I know there's the blackscreen bug (I got it myself a few times. tried to quit before the match started), but I'm assuming that'll be transient. I'm mostly thinking about the punishment for the guys suiciding right at the start or teamkilling then bragging about it. But repeated disconnects/afks are, to my mind, a pretty punishable offense in a team game. If your connection's crapping out on you that much, you really aught to just play something offline or solo until it works... It's incredibly unfair to your teammates. Unless, of course, it's deliberate.

Edited by Chris K, 28 November 2012 - 11:47 AM.
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[McKhaye]

PapaKilo, on 24 November 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

Not yet. They're working on the actual game first.

But that is part of the...
hrngh. game design aneurysm.

Looking forward to in-game reporting, at the very least for team killers and such. I seriously wouldn't worry about getting in trouble for crashing now and then. Mods don't usually drop the banhammer on andy old player getting a random report here or there, they (obviously) go after the people with a repeated history and pattern of trouble.

[BCOVertigo]

Unless there is a >2 mech difference I don't see this as anything more than a handicap. At that point it's a matter of them being able to occupy more map than your team can, but 8v7 is not an impossible win with greater coordination.

I feel like a better thing to dedicate resources to would be a mechanism to reconnect to a dropped game, than to set up a system to ban indiscriminately. Also, don't call people douches, even if they post somewhat mockingly and don't add anything to the conversation.

[Mad Pig]

Can we get a tissue dispenser as well?

[GalaxyBluestar]

mr fun you're overreacting as stated many faults in this beta game accour and those who hang around are cannon fodder and of no help to teams anyway when they bug out. that's why they disc. somemechs just run headlong into out of bounds cause of some fault it's happened to me once and i've seen it happen to an atlas pilot once. rare but it happens.

as for telling people to find some other game to play... what kind of spirit is that!? this is a free 2 play game so it aught to attract many players. Don't tell me you're so serious about a match victory that you'd tell people to ****** off cause their systems crash through fault of the game itself not their server client.

the hardest thing to identify is a deliberate afker until the game is foolproof to those running an old macintosh. TK have already been covered on many forum so check it out but there are time's in brawls when some lag and a stray laser can knock a teammate out instead of the target itself. shamefully i've done it before and the penalty was 15 000 big ones so there is a punishment for them. the suiciders are the most obvious and the easist to report so don't whinge here go and get witnesses who've noticed them and make your report to support. a guy named dukenukem is one case in point though naming and shaming is discouraged about ten pilots {including myself} noticed this guy dying earlier on in everymatch before engaugement was made.

so there you are, a lot is already covered and it will improve so ask for help and don't personally mock people who see that your post title does appear to be totalitarian in nature. it won't help you or your case.

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 26 November 2012 - 11:07 PM.

[Fiachdubh]

Yep its still only beta so they trying to get the game done first and then can sort out the afk/suicide/tk problems. Until community warfare comes along they are only an annoyance but after they would be a real problem affecting game beyond the single battle they (un)involved in.

[Flapdrol]

The majority of afk'er or dc's is the buggyness of the game. If I crash out it's mostly in the middle of fights. Also there's the crash on start, black screen bug and the yellow screen bug, no hud bug etc.

gets worse each patch it seems.

[Draal Kaan]

Seem to be a difficult topic...
Me myself did experience black screen and crash on start several times now. Most AFKs or DCs are due to these issues, i think...

But for the suiciders via overheating right at the beginning of match: What kind of bug can responsible for such a thing? Sry, when seeing suiciders at the start of a game, this is definitely looking like done on purpose.
And this is actually happening about 4 of 5 matches i am joining....

[Sen]

In the words of Becky Martin-Grainger [you win 5k points if you get the reference]

"WE ARE NOT HERE TO PUNISH! We are here to . . INSPIRE"

[Eidle]

Removing the game-cash and XP gain from any mech with 0 enemy damage, and being killed other than by the opposing team might hinder the exploiters enough make the activity not worthwhile.

I'd be in favor of player (not mech) time-outs for multiple matches hitting these conditions too.

This isn't going to stop the problem cold, there'll still be the few odd creative farmers, but at least it would be reduce the current problem, without affecting gameplay or existing matchmaking.

[Cannibal Cat]

I'm not sure penalizing someone for not being able to hit the broad side of a barn is the way to go and more likely will just discourage new players.

I think the best solution to avoiding teaming with "undesirable" players is to find and become friends and teammates with players you get along with. I've been playing for about a week and already have a buddy I team up with whenever we're both online. In fact we use Google+ to voice chat while playing the game (don't know if there's a voice chat within MWO, so that seemed easiest).

[FREDtheDEAD]

What planet are we on here? It's clearly stated in Command Chair posts that cBill farming is against code of conduct rules and they're doing their best to stamp it out. Patches have reduced cBill rewards for disconnect farming so suicide seems the main exploit left.

There is no debate. Farming is naughty not just because it's against coc rules and disadvantages a team, it screws up the stats the devs are collecting about the game economy and the way people earn and spend.

It's easy to spot people farming. They often brag. There are even macro bots that some farmers use that self advertise (eg "get 20mil cbills per day, buy macro at www.somewheredodgy.com").

As to >>>deliberate<<< team killers, that's against code of conduct too and, literally, a pain in the ***. Never seen it, myself. *crosses fingers* There's not really a debate here is there?

[The Basilisk]

DerelictTomcat, on 25 November 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

Wow calling for in game punishment to ban players and calling me a douche on the forums all in two posts or less.

Just klick the report buton. I did. Starting topics to opne up a fight, deliberately insulting other players.
Awsome sauce.

[Itzi]

Surely they can have a system where if you died within the first 3 minutes of the game without dealing much damage too much times will appear in a list to allow the publishers to punish these people.