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[dal10]

Adrian Steel, on 09 December 2012 - 03:32 PM, said:

LOL. I see you've got your red white and blue glasses on. Let me know what the world looks like from your vantage point when you manage to take them off.

The FWL is a sizeable industrialist hub for the Inner Sphere, and a big exporter of arms. From a socio-political standpoint, a decent real-world comparison could be the Balkans.

FWL is more like the European Union than any other parallel I can think of.

[Adrian Steel]

Aym, on 03 December 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

We sell the Steiner's their Atlai for their scout lances.

Don't think so.

According to Sarna, Atlai are built primarily by Lyran, Combine and Fed Sun factories.

[Adrian Steel]

dal10, on 09 December 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

FWL is more like the European Union than any other parallel I can think of.

Probably so. Not sure if the FWL has a unified currency/banking system though.

[dal10]

Adrian Steel, on 09 December 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:

Probably so. Not sure if the FWL has a unified currency/banking system though.

everything in the BT universe uses a combination of house money (M bills for marik) and comstar money C-bills.

[Balls of Steele]

Marik are the space democracy that aren't afraid of allying with a dictatorship when it's convenient. So actually they are quite similar to the US.

[Tyene]

from the battletech wiki: The government of the Free Worlds League is often misinterpreted as a representative democracy by superficial observation. In fact, the members of the parliament are representatives of the individual planets. The individual members of the parliament are determined by planetary governments, however. Consequently, the Free Worlds League's parliament may include elected representatives and representatives appointed by planetary dictators as well. This results in a mixture of regional and federal authorities. The individuals within the overlapping layers of bureaucracy continually vie for prominence.

I feel like that sums it up nicely

Edited by Tyene, 10 December 2012 - 05:17 PM.

[Durrin]

In terms of national influences the FWL is a mixture of the two great medieval European Empires, the Byzantine/Eastern Roman and the German/Italian Holy Roman Empire. Possessing some democratic institutions as well as a powerful military (on paper) that can rarely be deployed into the field. Though from the standpoint that Battletech's story is actually a retelling of European history the house Liao takes the roll of the Byzantine Empire, and the FWL is more of the Holy Roman Empire (up to and including the part where a religious crisis splits us apart)

[Ledaal Liao]

Actually FWL is based culturally on Austro-Hungarian Empire of WWI more than of modern U.S.

[Erasus Magnus]

Roadbeer, on 03 December 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

I think the term is "Atlases" when it comes to Steiner

no, more like "Atlanten", because this is the german plural of Atlas.

[YoBadMama]

I believe house Marik is one of the leaders in the scientific field.

[Akrasjel Lanate]

Rixsaw, on 03 December 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

It seems to me that FWL is A league of free worlds, thus similar to United States of America.

Please don't compare FWL to the USA

[dal10]

Akrasjel Lanate, on 20 December 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

Please don't compare FWL to the USA

if anything fed suns is like the USA, they meddle everywhere and everyone hates them.

[Tharkan Stuermer]

Stingr4y, on 03 December 2012 - 07:38 AM, said:

We are A-Marik-a.

SPACE DEMOCRACY!!!!!!

That's quite wrong
The FWL isn't a democrazy, but a Parlamentiary Confederacy, i.e. the FWL has a parliament, but the members of parliament might be appointed by planetary dictators as well as elected by democratic means. Which is pretty much the case in the FWL. In addition, the FWL is ruled under military rules.

[Aym]

Thank you Tharkan for restating what has been brought up a couple of other times in this post.

[Rodrigo Martinez]

I see FWL more like italian or hellenic city-states. And there is no real civil wars, the reason for war is something like "just Athens(Genova) are better than Thebes(Milano)".

[John Christopher]

I've always been a die-hard Comstar guy,but once the schism happened and Comstar split i sided with the Word of Blake.
But i have loyalty and respect for the FWL...seeing how the Free Worlds League gave many of us Blakist refuge before and after we sacked Terra.

[Kifferson von doober]

John Christopher, on 30 December 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

I've always been a die-hard Comstar guy,but once the schism happened and Comstar split i sided with the Word of Blake.
But i have loyalty and respect for the FWL...seeing how the Free Worlds League gave many of us Blakist refuge before and after we sacked Terra.

Oh yeah, cos we're all REALLY proud of that!

[Mazzyplz]

I THINK YOU GUYS GOT IT WRONG - THIS IS HOW I SEE IT:


Kurita - they're japanese. their galaxy is japanese... as such they have a high sense of honor and discipline, as well as some samurai looking mechs.

Liao - they're russian-chinese. their galaxy is communist.
their star system is small.

Davion - davion are a faction of tradition but quite involved in external affairs; the best way to think about them is like a new UN security council in europe (uk/france) or when the UK decided that they didn't need to be a part of the european union. they're probably based on the UK imo.

Rasalhague - they're vikings! they come from all those nordic countries.

Steiner - they have a big and intrusive government. but at the same time they believe in a free market so this is a capitalist society. they're also obsessed with BIG machinery like the atlas... so in short - they're american.
(you can also see this in the cartoon where adam steiner is very much an american)

Marik - this faction is like the european union. they avoid external conflicts and usually are more interested in culture and developing technologies more than the rest of the factions. theyre also the only faction that has some kind of democracy, the rest are ruled with an iron fist

Edited by Mazzyplz, 11 January 2013 - 12:18 AM.

[Sadistic Savior]

Marik is not a real democracy. It would be as if **** Germany were a state in the US...the US as a whole might be democratic, but **** Germany would not be.

Rasalhague is the only true democracy I can think of in the Battletech universe.

http://www.sarna.net...blic#Government

In other news...wow, you can't say N@zi in this forum? LOL

Edited by Sadistic Savior, 18 January 2013 - 02:04 PM.

[Slambot]

For informational purposes, House Davion is the British kinda, they tend to have very strong charismatic rulers. House Liao is the one with insanity as a genetic defect common in the royal line. House Marik up until recently was hampered by very strong regional governments that had a great deal of autonomy. Only Thomas Marik has been able to really unite the government by dissolving or marginalizing the regionally recruited and maintained militia units that have enabled the various regions to be less than supportive of the League as a whole. He instead has created the Marik Militias (units created and staffed by pilots from all over the FWL instead of a separate region) and the Knights of the Inner Sphere. The upcoming Clan invasion will turn the FWL economy into a REAL powerhouse in the inner sphere. The Lyrans are Germanic culture base, The Free Rasalhauge Republic is Norse (Swedish, Norwegian, Finish, Danish) culture group. The Draconis Combine is mainly Japanese culture but also Russian and Eastern European as well. House Liao is mainly Chinese but also Indian culture.