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[Rathe]

The second hero 'mech seems like it will be capable of toting 3 gauss rifles around with 4-5 tons of ammo. While a huge gauss boat fan, I can't help but be surprised that PGI would make the option possible in such a way, introducing it as a paid-only option.

Comments, thoughts?

edit: links and info here http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__1499352

edit2: my math showing triple gauss will fit http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__1499493

Edited by Rathe, 27 November 2012 - 03:02 PM.

[CodeNameValtus]

When you figure out that you can't actually make this happen....then you can come back down to reality...

With 3 Gauss, you are limping around at 23.1 kph (if they let you go down to STD 100 engine, and you can only carry maximum 3 tons of ammo....oh and you're ~4.5 tons underarmored...

Have fun being a statue that's made out of paper mache in a game where armor is king.

[Zanathan]

Speculation at best. It's hard to know the crit slots without having seen the mech first.

You could argue the 4X is capable of 3+ gauss rifles no?

[Kaijin]

3 GR on a 70 ton mech is going to be more a liability than an advantage. So like YLW, the second hero will also be a P2L mech.

[Deedsie]

Sounds fragile.

[Virisken]

could you pls link your references...

[Redshift2k5]

4x AC5s, 2x Ultra/5 plus 2x AC2, and 4xAC2 already put out a very similar level of damage at a similar range.

Are there dual gauss K2s with ten tons to spare? The CTF has 5 additional tons compared to the CPLT, but a 3rd gauss rifle will require a further 10 tons as compared to a 65 ton mech with 2 gauss rifles.

[Icebound]

Zanathan, on 27 November 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

Speculation at best. It's hard to know the crit slots without having seen the mech first.

You could argue the 4X is capable of 3+ gauss rifles no?

There's only enough crit spaces in the arms for one on each if you choose to go that route. But it's not as effective as a gausscat from what people are saying. Either way, you'll be seeing a lot less gaussboating once that nerf comes in...

[Oinkage]

Dear noobs,

Please try to use 3xGauss Cataphracts. I need to pad my K/D some more.

Thanks,

[Wingbreaker]

70 ton mech

45 tons of Gauss

25 tons remaining for ammo, armor, and engines?

HAHAHAHAHA, NO.

[LLIaMaH]

So this game is not about money=time or money=rare look it is about money=45dmg every 4 seconds in CT or head if you aim not bad...

[Rathe]

Zanathan, on 27 November 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

Speculation at best. It's hard to know the crit slots without having seen the mech first.

You could argue the 4X is capable of 3+ gauss rifles no?

http://mwomercs.com/...-ilya-muromets/

a look at the image here: http://i.imgur.com/DROgb.png

Shows pretty clearly that there will be 1 ballistic hardpoint each in RA, LA, and RT. There will be enough crit slots and weapon slots for 3 gauss rifles. With a 5.5 ton xl 180, the mech will go 41kph basic and 45kph elited, and there will be enough tonange for 3 gauss rifles.

[TruePoindexter]

First off Hard points and stats are known: http://mwomercs.com/...h-ilya-muromets

For those too lazy to click a link:

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Mech: Ilya Muromets CTF-IM Cataphract

Mech Identification Number: CTF2X0042A-1013
Tonnage: 70
Top Speed: 64.8 kph
Armor: 432 points
Weapons: 2 Medium Lasers, 2 AC/5s, 1 AC/10, 1 Small Laser
Hardpoints: 3 Ballistic, 3 Energy, 1 AMS
Jump Jets: n/a

If you can even fit 3x Gauss you would have next to no armor and almost no ammo and move like a beached whale. I wouldn't worry about that.

Myself? I'm planning to see about 3x UAC5 and 3x ML. If the performance of 2x UAC5 and 4x ML on my CTF-3D is any indicator this will be an amazing mech.

Edited by TruePoindexter, 28 November 2012 - 01:48 PM.

[Agent 0 Fortune]

3x UAC5 or 3x AC10 are more likely (and frankly better) options for the new hero.

[Naeron66]

CodeNameValtus, on 27 November 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

When you figure out that you can't actually make this happen....then you can come back down to reality...

With 3 Gauss, you are limping around at 23.1 kph (if they let you go down to STD 100 engine, and you can only carry maximum 3 tons of ammo....oh and you're ~4.5 tons underarmored...

Have fun being a statue that's made out of paper mache in a game where armor is king.

Would be fun, you would have fast mediums and heavies circle strafing it to death.

[CodeNameValtus]

Next we'll hear from people saying OMG put 3x AC/20's on this mech....hukhuk...

60 damage salvos from 270m is pretty fierce.

[Rathe]

CodeNameValtus, on 27 November 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

Next we'll hear from people saying OMG put 3x AC/20's on this mech....hukhuk...

60 damage salvos from 270m is pretty fierce.

not enough crit slots in the arms for ac-20s, fortunately or unfortunately

[CodeNameValtus]

Naeron66, on 27 November 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

Would be fun, you would have fast mediums and heavies circle strafing it to death.

At 23.1 kph (and the associated slower turn speeds) a small engine Atlas (~46kph) could circle strafe you and you would never be able to line up a shot with 3x Gauss on him....sad day.

Rathe, on 27 November 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

not enough crit slots in the arms for ac-20s, fortunately or unfortunately

That was sarcasm...AC/20's run heavier and more crit hungry than Gauss Rifles....I thought that much was clear already...

[Deedsie]

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25 tons remaining for ammo, armor, and engines?

No, 7 tons for structure, 3 tons for cockpit stuffs, so 15 tons for armor, ammo, and engine.

[Ghogiel]

3x UAC5 FTW