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[JayVrb]

You can grow some balls and use something other than a Streak Cat.

armyunit, on 04 December 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

Also guys, don't forget that a friendly ECM can counter an enemy ECM.

And this ^^^ Looks like your precious aimless weapon days aren't completely ruined.

Edited by Vrbas, 04 December 2012 - 01:53 PM.

[DegeneratePervert]

I'm equipping my cat with 4x SRM6, and 2x SSRM2. That way I can still pop those damn Jenners easily enough while I wait for a moment to strike with the SRMs. I'll end up switching the SSRMs out for 2x SRM4s as soon as i can get aiming down properly. I like this cat a lot more, it feels less.... cheap.

[BulletChief]

Vodrin Thales, on 04 December 2012 - 01:42 PM, said:

Umm, not to be snarky, but have you used autocannons before? They are every bit as hard to put on target as SRM's.

the huge difference is that my AC shots go where i shoot them while the SRMs don't...
even on a still standing target their dmg will spread over the whole mech and on small mechs and medium mechs even around it... so the actual dmg is greatly reduced.

[BulletChief]

double post but mehh...

i have to turn back my anger a bit... after one shotting some ECM ravens with that SRM cat... >_>
i still miss my LRMs but meh...


can anyone suggest a good build? i'm running 4xSRM6 and 2xSRM4 now, but it runs hot really fast and will probably have ammo problems in longer matches (500rockets, 21HS, 280XL)

[Lumicko]

Well I really dont know, i just bought now Cata A1 but i see now just bad time... I rly dont know what build to use now.. since i cant use LRMs and SSRms what i can do.. with these SRM its not so good.. Every other mechs are better now

[Horned Bull]

ssrm/lrm works - just get a friend that use ecm boat/be lucky and get into not-so-terrible pug. I'm actually happy to see that streakcats are unable to 2-hit-ko lights anymore.

[locilocisu]

BulletChief, on 04 December 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

okay, just played with 4 SRM6...

it's pointless - 60 dmg nice and fine but the spread is so ridiculous that you can't even scratch the paint.

i'm done with the A1. they just removed a mech from the game (basically most rocket heavy mechs)...

Instead use 6 SRM4s. Same damage but closer spread. SRM4s don't spread as much by default.

[Lumicko]

locilocisu, on 05 December 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

Instead use 6 SRM4s. Same damage but closer spread. SRM4s don't spread as much by default.

With Artemis? And What about 5x Srm6s + artemis? And how i can load so much? I can load max. 4 srm4s not talking about 6x srm 4 or 5x srm6 how?

[B0oN]

Volts, on 04 December 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

I think you just scared off half the player base

Best Noob-filter (sorry beginners, but some of you guys really need to learn to aim) there is ?

[Lumicko]

How can i load 5x Srm6s + Artemis? I have problem with toonage

[Stingz]

Thontor, on 05 December 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

just came up with a build in the spoiler:

Spoiler

Chassis Name: Catapult
Model Name: CPLT-A1
Variant Name: 6 Artemis SRM 6

Engine Cost: 4,800,000 C-Bills
Heat Sink Cost: 48,000 C-Bills
Armor Cost: 120,192 C-Bills
Weapons Cost: 960,000 C-Bills
Equipment Cost: 0 C-Bills
Ammo Cost: 162,000 C-Bills

Engine: 300 XL Engine
Internal Type: Endo Steel Internals
Armor Type: Standard Armor
Heat Sinks: 14 (12) Double Heat Sinks

Tonnage: 65.00
Speed: 74.8 kph
Armor Total: 384
Alpha Strike Damage: 90.00
Alpha Strike Heat: 43.17%
Firepower: 22.50 dps
Heat Efficiency: 42.67%
Effective Range of Loadout: 270m

Head: 18/18
Right Torso: 42/60
Right Rear Torso: 18/60
Center Torso: 62/84
Center Rear Torso: 22/84
Left Torso: 42/60
Left Rear Torso: 18/60
Right Arm: 40/40
Left Arm: 40/40
Right Leg: 41/60
Left Leg: 41/60

Weapons Locations
Right Arm:
(3) ASRM6
Left Arm:
(3) ASRM6

Heat Sink Locations
Right Torso: 1

Left Torso: 1


Jump Jet Locations

Equipment Locations

Ammo Locations
Center Torso:
(2) SRM Ammo
Right Leg:
(2) SRM Ammo
Left Leg:
(2) SRM Ammo
File created using MWO Mechbay

That speed, dat ammo in legs(Hnnng). You are just asking for people to shoot your legs off going that fast in a Cat, and 41 leg armor won't save you.

Edited by Stingz, 05 December 2012 - 05:07 PM.

[Gowan]

They effectively removed the A-1 from the game...? It's a damn support mech. It's built for teamwork, and LRMs are great if you have a scout with TAG.

[Stingz]

Thontor, on 05 December 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

yeah I kinda just threw it together. You could easily move that ammo to the torsos if you are afraid of getting legged.. Could put a smaller engine in there too, if you wanted to put more armor on the legs.

It's my experience that most people usually go for the torso though.

The very impossible to hit torsos that are also used by Gauss Cats(same mech type, diff variant). Legs on a Catapult are gigantic compared to the side torsos, and fall damage from JJs add up.

[BulletChief]

just writing what i'm running with atm...
feel free to post suggestions to improve!
it runs hot a bit too fast (like 2 alphas)

left/right arm each:
2xSRM6
1xSRM4

left/right torso each:
3xSRM Ammo
CASE
1 HS

center torso:
XL280 Engine = 69,7KPH
1 engine HS
2 additional HS

head:
1 HS

left/right leg each:
2 HS

Armor:
HD 18
CT 60
CTR 24
RT 42
RTR 18
LT 42
LTR 18
RA 40
LA 40
RL 33
LL 33

TL;DR:

symmetrical layout:
4xSRM6, 2xSRM4, 20 HS, 600 shielded Ammo, 280XL, full armor except legs, no upgrades (to keep it somewhat cheap)

Edited by BulletChief, 05 December 2012 - 07:29 PM.

[Mithos]

BulletChief, on 04 December 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

so i guess it's all down to SRMs now?

LRMs and SSRM don't work any more. they whole mech just became pointless (as all rocket heavy mechs)...

suggestions pls.

Actually, they do work. You can mix SRMs with SSRMs any way you like, or just don't bother and use 6 SRM4+Artemis in chainfire. Big slow mechs go down much faster then, and lights still gets enough missiles to run away in panic.

[Mithos]

DegeneratePervert, on 04 December 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

You can pack lots of SRMs. 90 Damage alpha strike to the FACE! The only problem now is that, you know, you have to aim.

You don't. SRM's won't go exactly where you aim anyway, so just point crosshair in direction of enemy mech and push fire button. Adjust according missile behavior and enemy movements - somehow, its even easier then maintaining guided missiles lock. Just try to not hit friends too much and don't close bay doors.

DegeneratePervert, on 04 December 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

Aiming isn't THAT hard. Just use a laser to figure out where the target's hitbox is.

Yeah, thats what i always do on my A1!

[Elizander]

DegeneratePervert, on 04 December 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

Aiming isn't THAT hard. Just use a laser to figure out where the target's hitbox is.

Good one!

[Elizander]

Stingz, on 05 December 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

That speed, dat ammo in legs(Hnnng). You are just asking for people to shoot your legs off going that fast in a Cat, and 41 leg armor won't save you.

No one shoots legs though. No one. Some people run around with less than 18 leg armor.

[Mithos]

Elizander, on 05 December 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:

No one shoots legs though. No one. Some people run around with less than 18 leg armor.

Could you provide some names, kind sir? I'd take a note.

[Ewigan]

Write down: EWIGAN

My commandos do that. 18 would be max armor if i am not mistaken.... ^^