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[Tarby]

my build:



last night managed to get over 800 damage in several games. mostly assists vs kills. Basically used for some initial scouting then covering big mechs against other lights.

mostly fell foul in rounds where I am only ECM mech vs teams with 2+ ravens or commando (or the odd occasion of being the only light mech vs 3 or 4 on other team.

Best (or worse) loss is a full SRM6 Alpha from a panicking Catapult I had been teasing which I thought had missed me as appeared to be way off to my left.

[TheGreatCovfefe]

Tarby, on 07 December 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

my build:



last night managed to get over 800 damage in several games. mostly assists vs kills. Basically used for some initial scouting then covering big mechs against other lights.

mostly fell foul in rounds where I am only ECM mech vs teams with 2+ ravens or commando (or the odd occasion of being the only light mech vs 3 or 4 on other team.

Best (or worse) loss is a full SRM6 Alpha from a panicking Catapult I had been teasing which I thought had missed me as appeared to be way off to my left.

At first I was like "why does he only have 4 mech bays???" but then I remembered that founders get an extra one. Nice build by the way.

[stjobe]

trogdorjr, on 07 December 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

At first I was like "why does he only have 4 mech bays???" but then I remembered that founders get an extra one.

An extra one for each Founder 'mech. I started with four 'mechs and four empty bays.

[Tarby]

Thinking of switching to MLAS and +1 ton SSRM ammo as I keep running out with 2 tons

[Ryft]

This thread is making me want to buy a light ECM mech next. Can anyone summarize the pros and cons of the Commando and Raven ECM capable variants? I'm mostly familiar with Jenner builds.

I'm slightly leaning towards the Commando, because I was thinking about buying one even befoer ECM was released for the 3 StreakSRM2 build. I've spectated on them several times, and they always looked like fun.

Edited by Ryft, 07 December 2012 - 06:30 PM.

[CaptBlack]

I don't know about the Raven but as for the Commando.
Pros -
- 3 streaks
- with the right equipment you can hunt any mech with great ease

Cons-
- Weak to surprise attacks especially other Commandos you have to get the first shot or its most likely not going to end in your favor
- low ammo count even though you have to rely on your streaks a lot hard to fit a lot in this mech
- terrible hard points 2 missile right arm 1 missile torso 1 laser left arm
- expect your legs to almost always be near critical towards the middle of the round I have max armor on them and my legs always fall apart

other then that there aren't very many good points to this mech. The Raven and the Cicada are both way faster then it to start and they both have better armor.

Now if your willing to spend about about 5 million cbills or so you can end up with a pretty interesting mech, it is a good mech I love mine but it isn't the best mech in the game by any stretch of the imagination.

Edited by CptBlackBalls, 07 December 2012 - 08:48 PM.

[Spaceghost]

Ryft, on 07 December 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

This thread is making me want to buy a light ECM mech next. Can anyone summarize the pros and cons of the Commando and Raven ECM capable variants? I'm mostly familiar with Jenner builds.

I'm slightly leaning towards the Commando, because I was thinking about buying one even befoer ECM was released for the 3 StreakSRM2 build. I've spectated on them several times, and they always looked like fun.

I think a lot boils down to play style. I had nearly master Jenner when ECM launched, and I got tired of getting smoked by missile valleys so I tried the ECM Raven. I tried the same loadout as my Jenner-D but with ECM, and I still kept getting smoked, this time from Commandos (they can counter your ECM and unload with those 3 SSRMs). Considering how much that Raven cost me, I was disappointed with it.
So I did some reading and found this thread and bought a Commando-2D. I outfitted as the OP layed out and launched into game...Damn, did I have fun (see my above post) and contribute a lot to the team.
As the Commando is cheap, I suggest trying it and see if you like it vs. buying the expensive Raven and then be disappointed like me.

[Ryft]

Spaceghost, on 07 December 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

As the Commando is cheap, I suggest trying it and see if you like it vs. buying the expensive Raven and then be disappointed like me.

Ok, now THAT makes some sense.

It seems I also need to read through the comments at http://mwomercs.com/...ndo-2d-for-ecm/ as there is some good experience there to glean before I make a decision.

[Punkass]

I decided to make one of these the other day when I was playing with my friend who was running one. He was getting 2-3 kills per match with around 500-600 damage done. We're both running XL195 (126.3kph), 3 SSRMs (2 tons ammo), TAG, ECM with Endosteel. All in all it was about 5.5 million c-bills.

ECM ensures that no one can target you outside of 180M. You lag shield makes it difficult to hit you inside of that, and you can close that distance in no time with that kind of speed. You can counter-ecm as needed. Just lock, circle and fire until whatever you're shooting at is dead. The only thing that poses any real threat are other lights with Streaks in a counter-ecm field.

This build is potentially broken. It uses the OP-ness of the ECM while exploiting poor hit detection on fast moving targets, all while allowing you to just lock and fire. That said, I'll be enjoying this troll build for the time being.

[WillSwe]

Hyperdrive, on 05 December 2012 - 06:47 AM, said:

If I run 3 SSRM's, I can blow up a light mech, then I'm out of ammo! 100 ammo goes quickly. So dropped down to 2 SSRM + 2 ammo and a med laser to carve mech parts off

Hyperdrive, on 05 December 2012 - 06:47 AM, said:

If I run 3 SSRM's, I can blow up a light mech, then I'm out of ammo! 100 ammo goes quickly. So dropped down to 2 SSRM + 2 ammo and a med laser to carve mech parts off

I use to run mine with 3 SSRM's but I found that I couldnt fecking target much after the latest patch, I swapped for ECM and sml Pulse laser and got 5 kills and a load of xp, runs with the xl 210 engine and fully elite pilot upgrades, 146 kmh is to feckin fast for the big guys

[CompuGeek]

I have been running my 2D since the start of the game,I run an XL 200 engine that with speed tweak gives me a brisk 139.3 KPH, Master slot unlocked, 3 SSRM, 300 rounds of Ammo (50 total volleys), FF Armor near max, Endo Steel,and now ECM. I run the 360 module, the target info module and a Cap accelerator in the slots. Most games I get a minimum of two kill shots in, have taken down assaults and heavys on my own with relative ease and can boot scoot across the feild of battle quicker than a 4 ER PPC Catapult goes into shutdown in caustic valley, in the crater doing an alpha strike. I am a fan of agility and speed, on the battlefield, speed = life and I think my record shows how effective this build can be with over 1300 kills and a KDR of 1.76(Remember, you have to use variants that might not fit your play style to unlock Master slot which equals more deaths till you get your build right and learn its capabilities and downfalls) it is also my money maker, I can die, get cored, and my team can lose and I still bank a little bit of C-Bills (Currently sitting on 63+ Million c-bills and own 3 other mechs) I am a fan of it's small size that is easy to keep under concealment and cover, it's efficiency in the hands of an experienced pilot, and the overall smack talking it provides when you take down a heavy or an assult with a battlefeild humoring "Giggity, that is all"

So grab your commando, and run the feild like a Boss!

The Geek

[Ryft]

Bought a 2D!

Stripped it. Added ECM. Threw in a stock 200 from one of my hunchbacks, maxed armor to my liking, and added... a medium pulse laser. Pew pew pew.

Alright, that felt really pointless 1 match in.

Back to the stock 150 engine, for now. Added endosteel... for only 250K? Why not. That's a bargain. Did the 3 SSRM2 thing. I only have room for two tons of ammo, and I had to shave weight from the cockpit and the odd arm to fit even that. Thinking about ditching a launcher for another ton of ammo and a small laser.

So far it's a lot of FUN, despite having not scored any kills. I did pilot it to my first ever tie match, where we ran out of time with about equal amounts of base capped, and with 2 living mechs on each team (I was one of the live ones). That was really interesting.

I did get to experience the joy of watching a 65 ton CAT-A1 run away from me in sheer terror.

Alright, so... not that powerful, but also fun to play. And fun counts for every ton you're carrying in a game. Gonna save up for that XL engine... not sure exactly what size, yet, but if that's the priciest thing on this chassis I'm not going to complain.

Edited by Ryft, 09 December 2012 - 08:49 AM.

[sycocys]

If your a good shot srm4s are better option than the streaks in my opinion.

[80Bit]

My COM-2D is ECM, SSRM, and then all ammo.

I still go out of ammo about half the time. I do 500+ damage most matches. Honestly, any COM-2D with ECM that just does not stop moving is going to be a terror.

[Ryft]

Streaks are nice for when you are moving too fast to really have time to aim. You can get a target lock even with terrain in between (assuming an ally is assisting) and then loose them as soon as line of effect is cleared. And then back to cover.

Since adding in the 195XL, this thing really shines. I don't even have double heat sinks in it yet, but I'm finding I'm fast enough to survive, now.

Honest to goodness ARMS actually let me win circle dances, now. The streak srm2s don't hurt, either, of course. But my one medium laser feels sometimes like it's actually counting for more than back in closed beta with my Jenner shining 4 of them all over the place (pew pew pew!) to little or no effect.

It will be easy to add two new mechs in now to unlock master on this thing. 3.45 million for the chassis, endosteel, and double heat sinks, and I already have any equipment I could ever want on it.

[stjobe]

With just the three Streaks, you really don't need DHS. I have mine in since before the ECM patch, and I'm at 2.02 heat efficiency...

[Volts]

What is this Commando?

A MECH FOR ANTS?

[Ryft]

I don't have just the 3 streaks, though. I have a medium laser as well. Spamming streaks alone I can definitely overheat, especially on the caldera map, though that might not be as much the case with -1 medium laser +1 heatsink.

[Tachykard]

Sry but the ecm commando with streak srm is just nooblike for people with no aiming. Same with the ecm raven...
They have to give the ecm to mechs with more energy weapons and 1 or 0 missles.... then you have to aim again...
In most games the only light mechs you see now are ecm raven and ecm commandos. Its pretty poor!!

Edited by Tachykard, 10 December 2012 - 07:32 AM.

[Punkass]

Tachykard, on 10 December 2012 - 07:31 AM, said:

Sry but the ecm commando with streak srm is just nooblike for people with no aiming. Same with the ecm raven...
They have to give the ecm to mechs with more energy weapons and 1 or 0 missles.... then you have to aim again...
In most games the only light mechs you see now are ecm raven and ecm commandos. Its pretty poor!!

You mad?